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NFT: New York Yankees @ Tampa Bay Rays - 1:10 - Game 3

arcarsenal : 6/24/2018 11:09 am
German on the hill. Have to avoid getting swept. Been a tough stretch offensively. I think we'll get a good bunch on the board today and come away with a win.

NYY:

1. Brett Gardner (L) LF
2. Aaron Judge (R) RF
3. Didi Gregorius (L) SS
4. Giancarlo Stanton (R) DH
5. Gary Sanchez (R) C
6. Aaron Hicks (S) CF
7. Miguel Andujar (R) 3B
8. Neil Walker (S) 1B
9. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B

TBR:

1. Kevin Kiermaier (L) CF
2. Matt Duffy (R) DH
3. Jake Bauers (L) 1B
4. Joey Wendle (L) 3B
5. Carlos Gomez (R) RF
6. Mallex Smith (L) LF
7. Adeiny Hechavarria (R) SS
8. Jesus Sucre (R) C
9. Willy Adames (R) 2B

SP: Matt Andriese (RHP)
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arcarsenal : 6/24/2018 5:45 pm : link
Not surprising.. but Boone said Sanchez is likely headed to the DL.

CBP next. Hopefully the bats wake up there. Missing Nola and should be able to park a bunch of balls over the short fences there.
Is Cashman serious  
Kyle in NY : 6/24/2018 5:47 pm : link
keeping Shreve on the roster? It’s comical at this point.

Oh well, just one of those weekends that you’ll get over the course of a long season. Good news is Stanton is heating up.
One recommendation for Boone in Philly...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/24/2018 5:51 pm : link
do NOT bat the pitcher in front of or behind Torres/Andujar. If Bird is going to play, let him bat 8th and let our pitchers bat 9th.
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nygnyy274 : 6/24/2018 5:53 pm : link
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Tanaka is getting close, so that'll help a little bit.

But yeah, no doubt Cashman is going to make a move for a starter. Don't be surprised if he acquires two...



JA Happ and Cole Hamels?



I think he'll stay away from Hamels - or at least I hope he does.

Happ is a realistic target. Depending on what happens with the Angels, Richards is another guy worth checking in on down the road.

I wouldn't hate going after Tyson Ross depending on the price.

I still like German a lot, and I agree he should keep pitching and keep developing. Tanaka will/should take Johnny Lasagna's spot when he's back. German should get a few more turns through.

Gray seems pretty unreliable right now. Sevvy and CC are the only two guys I think you can trust in a bigger spot right now. So, whether it's one starter or two.. it'll need to be addressed. But I'm still very much against dumping the farm to do it.




Yankees are trying to win a World Series and you want to stay away from a proven pitcher whose got it done in the big spots of October in Hamels but will take Richards who is always hurt and Tyson Ross who stinks come on now



Cole Hamels got absolutely rocked in his last postseason appearance. He gave up 6 runs in 3.1 innings. That was 2 years ago. Now he's 34 years old. He has a 5.14 FIP this year. He wasn't good last year, either.

You want to give up a good prospect for him, be my guest. I'd say buyer beware.

Richards is having a very solid year. Yeah, he has a hamstring strain so it depends if he gets back from that and pitches decently. But his k/9 is over 10 right now and he's been a respectable mid-rotation starter.

Tyson Ross doesn't stink. He has a 3.34 ERA this year and was an all-star a few years ago. He has talent, he's been hurt and looks like he's getting his groove back now.

I'm looking for guys who can help but won't cost a ton to acquire, so these guys aren't going to be perfect options. I don't think the right move here is unloading half the farm for one of the Mets pitchers or Blake Snell.

The goal shouldn't be to go all in on this year, it should be to maximize the window of contention. Putting all our eggs in the 2018 basket would be the wrong approach, IMO.




So because he is 34 and got rocked in the playoffs one game two years ago means he won’t be effective here??? Tyson Ross was terrible with Oakland and Texas let him stay in the west coast in the NL with the padres I want no part of him in New York,



Ross hasn't pitched in Oakland since 2012 - why is that relevant? Can't I turn around and use your logic?

So.. because he pitched poorly in Oakland 6 years ago means he won't be effective here?

I'm only going back 2 years. You're going back 6 years.

Hamels is the guy you want. Fine - what are you willing to part with to get him?


Ross pitched in Texas last year he wasn’t terrible.. I’m not giving andujar Torres or Frazier for hamels
Why is Walker  
nygnyy274 : 6/24/2018 5:59 pm : link
Still on this roster can somebody please explain to me???? Remember Chris Carter last year????? He was more productive then this guy has been. carter sucked but he did hit 8 home runs, he was getting paid 3.5 million Walker is getting 4 million just release him and call up Drury, Carter was released a year ago today to I believe, he was brought back a week later when Austin got hurt tho
Maybe Sanchez's injury will be a good thing in the long run.  
Dave in Buffalo : 6/24/2018 6:04 pm : link
He's just not getting out of his slump and it's been going on so long that it's way beyond a normal slump. With time off and a long rehab assignment, he can hit the reset switch and work on his swing, and getting his confidence back, under much less pressure. Hopefully Romine continues to produce, so no more hole in the lineup.
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arcarsenal : 6/24/2018 6:08 pm : link
Well yeah, Torres or Frazier for Hamels would be lunacy. Absolutely no way that's happening.

If he's "cheap," it's not the worst move - but again, if you look under the hood there, there's a few red flags.

5.14 FIP, 19.8% HR/FB (highest of his career by a good bit), 1.235 WHIP.

Not sure he's the right guy.
well three things are certain  
RasputinPrime : 6/24/2018 6:08 pm : link
1 - this shitbag of a stadium makes the Olympic stadium look like a baseball stadium.

2 - Walker is the next to go.

3 - Shreve is going to be better than this someplace else very soon.
Really no reason to keep trotting Shreve or Walker  
Jim in Hoboken : 6/24/2018 6:10 pm : link
out there. Have to assume that that’s what Cashman wants.
What does Boone need?  
Ed A. : 6/24/2018 6:12 pm : link
Cannot believe he can't see the ineffectiveness of Shreve. DFA him already, also DFA Walker and bring up Drury. Does he need a boulder to hit him on the head. Sheeesh!!!
Drury has been playing some first base  
BigBlueShock : 6/24/2018 6:15 pm : link
They have got to get him up here to replace Walker. Probably wouldn’t get much for Walker on the trade front but they have to at least see what’s out there. A lottery ticket or two would be fine. I’d prefer to get something back for him rather than simply eat his contract but at this point, if that’s what it takes, so be it
Swept away in Tampa...  
M.S. : 6/24/2018 6:17 pm : link

...ouch.

Not what the team with the best MLB record was looking for.

Is this the first leg of a nasty team slump?


RE: Drury has been playing some first base  
nygnyy274 : 6/24/2018 6:19 pm : link
In comment 13998877 BigBlueShock said:
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They have got to get him up here to replace Walker. Probably wouldn’t get much for Walker on the trade front but they have to at least see what’s out there. A lottery ticket or two would be fine. I’d prefer to get something back for him rather than simply eat his contract but at this point, if that’s what it takes, so be it


Just release him, like they did Carter last year, funny thing is Carter was more productive lol
Yanks were Shreved apart...  
M.S. : 6/24/2018 6:22 pm : link

...by a fifth rate reliever.

Gotta either send him down or cut him.

He sucks every time he takes the mound.

And now he adds to the Yankees Tampa misery.

Bad ending to a bad weekend.

RE: What does Boone need?  
Eman11 : 6/24/2018 6:30 pm : link
In comment 13998873 Ed A. said:
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Cannot believe he can't see the ineffectiveness of Shreve. DFA him already, also DFA Walker and bring up Drury. Does he need a boulder to hit him on the head. Sheeesh!!!


I think having the righty hitting Frazier pinch hit for him late might be a bit of a bad sign for Walker. Especially since Walker could've batted right handed there.

If Drury is anywhere near competent playing 1B in AAA then I think Walker's days in the Bronx are numbered.
RE: Swept away in Tampa...  
arcarsenal : 6/24/2018 7:31 pm : link
In comment 13998878 M.S. said:
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...ouch.

Not what the team with the best MLB record was looking for.

Is this the first leg of a nasty team slump?



It's the first time they've lost 3 in a row all year and it's almost July.

I don't think a "nasty team slump" is coming.

It's such a long season. This is going to happen. Yeah, it's annoying because it's the Rays and they fucking suck - but it balances out.

Can't win every single series or expect that 3 losses in a row will never happen over the course of 162 games. It's not realistic no matter how good the team is.
Is Kahnle healthy?  
Matt M. : 6/24/2018 8:43 pm : link
Anyone else in AAA? Shreve has been terrible all season and needs to be sent down.
RE: Is Kahnle healthy?  
arcarsenal : 6/24/2018 8:56 pm : link
In comment 13998947 Matt M. said:
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Anyone else in AAA? Shreve has been terrible all season and needs to be sent down.


Kahnle has 3 straight scoreless appearances in SWB (3.2 innings) - I'd call him up and DFA Shreve. Khanle only had one hiccup where he let up 2 runs - that's in in his last 7.2 innings. Seems like he's getting on track.
RE: Is Kahnle healthy?  
Dave in Buffalo : 6/24/2018 9:11 pm : link
In comment 13998947 Matt M. said:
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Anyone else in AAA? Shreve has been terrible all season and needs to be sent down.


Coday Carol. He'll probably be up soon.
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mitch300 : 6/24/2018 9:30 pm : link
Bullpen today 114 pitches and 0 hits. Shrieve 1 pitch a home run. I will be shocked if he isn't sent down.
Wow..  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/24/2018 11:42 pm : link
Katie Sharp:

Yankees Bullpen Last 18 Games (since June 5):

Chasen Shreve: 6.1 IP, 5 R, 3 HR

Rest of team: 54 IP, 0 R, 0 HR

Says it all and then some, really.
RE: Wow..  
arcarsenal : 6/25/2018 10:00 am : link
In comment 13999030 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Katie Sharp:

Yankees Bullpen Last 18 Games (since June 5):

Chasen Shreve: 6.1 IP, 5 R, 3 HR

Rest of team: 54 IP, 0 R, 0 HR

Says it all and then some, really.


Ooofa. Yep that's gotta be it for Shreve.

I'd like to see a lefty added to the pen at the deadline if possible. Chapman is really the only other lefty we have back there and obviously he's not going to be coming in before it's closing time or we need to hold serve.

Considering how dominant the pen has been otherwise, it's probably not an absolute necessity - but if there's a good match somewhere, I'd be willing to listen.

SFG has a pair of potential targets if we want to go that route - Tony Watson and Will Smith. Brad Hand is probably going to be too expensive.
Wonder if they'd consider Sheffield for a bullpen role  
Greg from LI : 6/25/2018 10:12 am : link
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So apparently  
BigBlueShock : 6/25/2018 10:13 am : link
CC and Cessa are likely to be switched in the order and if that’s the case, CC will pitch Wednesday and Cessa on Friday. Which makes Boone’s decision to go with Shreve instead of Cessa even more mind boggling.
Though the article I read could have it backwards  
BigBlueShock : 6/25/2018 10:17 am : link
Because I thought CC was originally scheduled for Wednesday and was switched to Friday to face Boston, so who the hell knows. All I know is Shreve had no business being in that game
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arcarsenal : 6/25/2018 10:20 am : link
I think CC is pitching Friday - Gray had originally been slated to pitch then if I'm not mistaken.

Cessa is going to pitch against the Phillies on Wednesday I believe.
RE: Is Kahnle healthy?  
rich in DC : 6/25/2018 10:44 am : link
In comment 13998947 Matt M. said:
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Anyone else in AAA? Shreve has been terrible all season and needs to be sent down.


Shreve is out of options and would have to be DFA'd.

I am in favor of that option actually- but I don't think Kahnle should be called up- he needs to build up IP after missing so much time. I would prefer that the Yanks bring up Cody Carroll or Feyereisen. Those two might be part of the Yanks 2019 pen- and it might be a good idea for the Yanks to take a short look now so they can get a feel for what they have and what they can do.
Just get Shreve out of there pronto  
Greg from LI : 6/25/2018 10:48 am : link
By any means necessary
RE: Just get Shreve out of there pronto  
arcarsenal : 6/25/2018 10:50 am : link
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By any means necessary


Yup!
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/25/2018 10:58 am : link
I thought arc was a Mets fan?
apparently arc needs a sticky thread explaining his conversion  
Greg from LI : 6/25/2018 11:01 am : link
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arcarsenal : 6/25/2018 11:02 am : link
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I thought arc was a Mets fan?


I asked to be released. The Yanks signed me to a new deal on June 3rd and my home is in the Bronx now.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/25/2018 11:04 am : link
In comment 13999195 arcarsenal said:
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I thought arc was a Mets fan?



I asked to be released. The Yanks signed me to a new deal on June 3rd and my home is in the Bronx now.


LOL. I hear ya. A friend of mine from college is a Mets fan & they've broken him as well.
A few Cashman quotes on Frazier (from Bruce Beck's Sunday show)  
bceagle05 : 6/25/2018 11:23 am : link
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The Yankees GM, though, would prefer not to part with Clint Frazier to get another impact piece in the rotation.

“We’re lucky to have him,” Cashman said of Frazier. “He’s getting better. He’s a toolbox that every year since we’ve gotten him he’s exponentially improved.”

Granted, the 24-year-old outfielder could be one of the Bombers’ best trade chips given his potential. He’s blocked from an everyday role in the majors, but he also seems too good to deal for someone like a veteran second-tier starter. It would seemingly have to be a real difference-maker.

“We’d like to hold on to him,” Cashman said while suggesting there could very well be a more significant role for Frazier over time. “I know he’s someone that we’re going to get asked a lot about, and so far we’ve been able to say no and hand-check everything, but I’m a big Clint Frazier fan.

“He was a big piece of that trade of Andrew Miller along with some others and I think he’s got a lot of really good baseball ahead of him. He’s going about his business perfectly right now. He’s impacting us in a positive way and saying all the right things."

NYDailyNews - ( New Window )
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arcarsenal : 6/25/2018 11:30 am : link
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I thought arc was a Mets fan?



I asked to be released. The Yanks signed me to a new deal on June 3rd and my home is in the Bronx now.



LOL. I hear ya. A friend of mine from college is a Mets fan & they've broken him as well.


I have a lot of respect for the guys who are sticking with it and seeing it through. I just couldn't anymore. Life's too short for that kind of frustration. Couldn't be happier now.
Sanchez DL'd and Frazier sent down  
Eman11 : 6/25/2018 3:35 pm : link
Damn. Really wish they could've found a way to keep Frazier up.

Yeah, same here (Frazier).  
bceagle05 : 6/25/2018 3:37 pm : link
I feel like's one of our best hitters right now. We need Bird to get going.
RE: Yeah, same here (Frazier).  
section125 : 6/25/2018 3:42 pm : link
In comment 13999413 bceagle05 said:
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I feel like's one of our best hitters right now. We need Bird to get going.


What, his 15(whatever it is recently) at bats have turned him into one of the best now?
RE: Yeah, same here (Frazier).  
Eman11 : 6/25/2018 3:42 pm : link
In comment 13999413 bceagle05 said:
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I feel like's one of our best hitters right now. We need Bird to get going.


Yup. He could've been the spark to jump start the O again. Seemed to me he did something good every game he got in and would've won the game last night for the Yanks if not for that clown shoes Stadium.

Bullshit stadium and circus like ground rules cost us the game and later Sanchez.
When are we trading Shreve for a jar of cold piss?  
NoGainDayne : 6/25/2018 3:44 pm : link
I feel like Shreve did something to personally offend someone in the Yankees org beyond playing poorly. It's like they want to see him look bad. He keeps messing up in situations that could win or lose us games. At least AJ Cole the poor guy. No one wants to see him do this, other than Bonne / Cashman. Apparently.
RE: So the Rays should be top  
djm : 6/25/2018 4:38 pm : link
In comment 13998840 prdave73 said:
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of the MLB Rankings next week?! This is BS and completely embarrassing. This shouldn't be happening, this is on Boone.


What should happen next? Probably time to fire Boone I’m think....

Or maybe dock Boone a week’s worth of salary, since this is on him and it’s embarrasing...

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BigBlueShock : 6/25/2018 4:42 pm : link
In comment 13999478 djm said:
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of the MLB Rankings next week?! This is BS and completely embarrassing. This shouldn't be happening, this is on Boone.



What should happen next? Probably time to fire Boone I’m think....

Or maybe dock Boone a week’s worth of salary, since this is on him and it’s embarrasing...

djm, you’re better off ignoring that troll brother. He’s a Boston fan that has a man crush on Cora and comes here whenever the Yankees lose to pretend to be a Yankees fan and shit on Boone. He’s a disgrace
Boone says grade 1 strain for Gary, out 3-4 weeks.  
bceagle05 : 6/25/2018 5:09 pm : link
At least the All-Star Break covers some of that time frame. Hopefully he'll go into Beast Mode in the second half of the season.
RE: Boone says grade 1 strain for Gary, out 3-4 weeks.  
section125 : 6/25/2018 5:13 pm : link
In comment 13999511 bceagle05 said:
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At least the All-Star Break covers some of that time frame. Hopefully he'll go into Beast Mode in the second half of the season.


Lovely....Higgy coming up?
Never a good thing for one of the teams best players to get hurt  
arniefez : 6/25/2018 5:14 pm : link
But the way this year has gone for Sanchez maybe it will reset him. All the games are important but the most important games of this season haven't been played yet and they won't have been played when he gets back.
Higgy and Gallegos are up.  
bceagle05 : 6/25/2018 5:16 pm : link
Gary to DL and Frazier to AAA.
RE: Never a good thing for one of the teams best players to get hurt  
mitch300 : 6/25/2018 5:23 pm : link
In comment 13999514 arniefez said:
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But the way this year has gone for Sanchez maybe it will reset him. All the games are important but the most important games of this season haven't been played yet and they won't have been played when he gets back.

I’m thinking the same thing.
I have no idea why Shreve is still on this roster  
Greg from LI : 6/25/2018 6:03 pm : link
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RE: I have no idea why Shreve is still on this roster  
section125 : 6/25/2018 7:16 pm : link
In comment 13999550 Greg from LI said:
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Because they need a LOOGY, even though he can't get lefties out......
Just wanted to drop by and say  
Ash_3 : 6/26/2018 9:02 am : link
hi to arc and am really glad he finally followed my suggestion (half-joking) and became a Yanks fan. Great addition to the family. Arc--if you ever want to catch a Yanks game later this summer/early fall, email me via Eric. Would be fun.
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