NFT: New York Yankees @ Tampa Bay Rays - 1:10 - Game 3

In comment 13998667 arcarsenal said:

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In comment 13998664 Jints in Carolina said: Quote: In comment 13998661 arcarsenal said: Quote: Tanaka is getting close, so that'll help a little bit. But yeah, no doubt Cashman is going to make a move for a starter. Don't be surprised if he acquires two... JA Happ and Cole Hamels? I think he'll stay away from Hamels - or at least I hope he does. Happ is a realistic target. Depending on what happens with the Angels, Richards is another guy worth checking in on down the road. I wouldn't hate going after Tyson Ross depending on the price. I still like German a lot, and I agree he should keep pitching and keep developing. Tanaka will/should take Johnny Lasagna's spot when he's back. German should get a few more turns through. Gray seems pretty unreliable right now. Sevvy and CC are the only two guys I think you can trust in a bigger spot right now. So, whether it's one starter or two.. it'll need to be addressed. But I'm still very much against dumping the farm to do it.

Yankees are trying to win a World Series and you want to stay away from a proven pitcher whose got it done in the big spots of October in Hamels but will take Richards who is always hurt and Tyson Ross who stinks come on now

Come the fuck on.

In comment 13998784 nygnyy274 said:

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In comment 13998667 arcarsenal said: Quote: In comment 13998664 Jints in Carolina said: Quote: In comment 13998661 arcarsenal said: Quote: Tanaka is getting close, so that'll help a little bit. But yeah, no doubt Cashman is going to make a move for a starter. Don't be surprised if he acquires two... JA Happ and Cole Hamels? I think he'll stay away from Hamels - or at least I hope he does. Happ is a realistic target. Depending on what happens with the Angels, Richards is another guy worth checking in on down the road. I wouldn't hate going after Tyson Ross depending on the price. I still like German a lot, and I agree he should keep pitching and keep developing. Tanaka will/should take Johnny Lasagna's spot when he's back. German should get a few more turns through. Gray seems pretty unreliable right now. Sevvy and CC are the only two guys I think you can trust in a bigger spot right now. So, whether it's one starter or two.. it'll need to be addressed. But I'm still very much against dumping the farm to do it. Yankees are trying to win a World Series and you want to stay away from a proven pitcher whose got it done in the big spots of October in Hamels but will take Richards who is always hurt and Tyson Ross who stinks come on now

Cole Hamels got absolutely rocked in his last postseason appearance. He gave up 6 runs in 3.1 innings. That was 2 years ago. Now he's 34 years old. He has a 5.14 FIP this year. He wasn't good last year, either.

You want to give up a good prospect for him, be my guest. I'd say buyer beware.

Richards is having a very solid year. Yeah, he has a hamstring strain so it depends if he gets back from that and pitches decently. But his k/9 is over 10 right now and he's been a respectable mid-rotation starter.

Tyson Ross doesn't stink. He has a 3.34 ERA this year and was an all-star a few years ago. He has talent, he's been hurt and looks like he's getting his groove back now.

I'm looking for guys who can help but won't cost a ton to acquire, so these guys aren't going to be perfect options. I don't think the right move here is unloading half the farm for one of the Mets pitchers or Blake Snell.

The goal shouldn't be to go all in on this year, it should be to maximize the window of contention. Putting all our eggs in the 2018 basket would be the wrong approach, IMO.

With Dr. Arc's last sentence

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for some of these rumored ham 'n' eggers. I'll be furious.

to save us from Chasen Shreve.

We better score here.. because Shreve is warming up. So the only way we're going to avoid him taking the mound is by taking the lead so that we can go to Chappy.

There you go, Gardy.

Venters is gonna have to come out too.

Can we freaking score now?

In comment 13998798 bceagle05 said:

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for some of these rumored ham 'n' eggers. I'll be furious.

That's what I want to avoid. I'm looking at the tier of pitchers that wouldn't require that - or at least guys I don't think would require that.

I think it would be a mistake to deal Frazier away for anything less than a front line starter. And that's not the route I think we should go.

Score here so we don't have to live through another Shreve appearance in an important spot.

That was not a fucking strike.

says nothing about that 2-1 pitch i dont know. It was both low and inside and changes the entire at bat

In comment 13998805 Eman11 said:

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Score here so we don't have to live through another Shreve appearance in an important spot.

Shreve was dfa'd wasn't he?

I don't know if it's his height or what.. but I don't think I can recall a single player whom I've seen so many bad strike calls on as I've seen with Judge. Absolutely awful calls against him on a regular basis.

In comment 13998808 MookGiants said:

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says nothing about that 2-1 pitch i dont know. It was both low and inside and changes the entire at bat

Yup. He just doesn't complain though and like I said yesterday, time for Boone to blow a gasket about that shit.

In comment 13998809 Ryan in Albany said:

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In comment 13998805 Eman11 said: Quote: Score here so we don't have to live through another Shreve appearance in an important spot. Shreve was dfa'd wasn't he?

Nope. Only in our wildest X-rated fantasies, sadly..

Hold onto your butts, guys... Shreve time...

In comment 13998812 Dave in Hoboken said:

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In comment 13998809 Ryan in Albany said: Quote: In comment 13998805 Eman11 said: Quote: Score here so we don't have to live through another Shreve appearance in an important spot. Shreve was dfa'd wasn't he? Nope. Only in our wildest X-rated fantasies, sadly..

Big spot in the game here and I'd think a real big spot for him staying on the roster.

Fingers crossed.......

Not really, but enough is e-fucking-nough.

DFA him immediately.

Judge already naturally has a bigger strike zone than almost everyone that has ever played the game. And when you add in the fact that every freaking at bat he has balls out of the zone called strikes, his umpire made up zone is completely unfair and an absolute joke. All a pitcher has to do is throw it in the zip code of the plate and it’s a strike. Completely unfair

Swept by the Rays. Wow.

Unreal.

We all knew it was a bad move... Boone didn't.

Go to Cessa there. You can't put Shreve in against the heart of their order like that.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

DFA this clown already, please..

Leave him in Tampa. Who didn’t see that coming?

In comment 13998790 arcarsenal said:

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In comment 13998784 nygnyy274 said: Quote: In comment 13998667 arcarsenal said: Quote: In comment 13998664 Jints in Carolina said: Quote: In comment 13998661 arcarsenal said: Quote: Tanaka is getting close, so that'll help a little bit. But yeah, no doubt Cashman is going to make a move for a starter. Don't be surprised if he acquires two... JA Happ and Cole Hamels? I think he'll stay away from Hamels - or at least I hope he does. Happ is a realistic target. Depending on what happens with the Angels, Richards is another guy worth checking in on down the road. I wouldn't hate going after Tyson Ross depending on the price. I still like German a lot, and I agree he should keep pitching and keep developing. Tanaka will/should take Johnny Lasagna's spot when he's back. German should get a few more turns through. Gray seems pretty unreliable right now. Sevvy and CC are the only two guys I think you can trust in a bigger spot right now. So, whether it's one starter or two.. it'll need to be addressed. But I'm still very much against dumping the farm to do it. Yankees are trying to win a World Series and you want to stay away from a proven pitcher whose got it done in the big spots of October in Hamels but will take Richards who is always hurt and Tyson Ross who stinks come on now Cole Hamels got absolutely rocked in his last postseason appearance. He gave up 6 runs in 3.1 innings. That was 2 years ago. Now he's 34 years old. He has a 5.14 FIP this year. He wasn't good last year, either. You want to give up a good prospect for him, be my guest. I'd say buyer beware. Richards is having a very solid year. Yeah, he has a hamstring strain so it depends if he gets back from that and pitches decently. But his k/9 is over 10 right now and he's been a respectable mid-rotation starter. Tyson Ross doesn't stink. He has a 3.34 ERA this year and was an all-star a few years ago. He has talent, he's been hurt and looks like he's getting his groove back now. I'm looking for guys who can help but won't cost a ton to acquire, so these guys aren't going to be perfect options. I don't think the right move here is unloading half the farm for one of the Mets pitchers or Blake Snell. The goal shouldn't be to go all in on this year, it should be to maximize the window of contention. Putting all our eggs in the 2018 basket would be the wrong approach, IMO.

So because he is 34 and got rocked in the playoffs one game two years ago means he won’t be effective here??? Tyson Ross was terrible with Oakland and Texas let him stay in the west coast in the NL with the padres I want no part of him in New York,

was Boone thinking, bringing in Shreve in extra innings with the game on the line?

This guy couldn't keep them scoreless for 1 fucking pitch!


He's got to go.

In comment 13998822 nygnyy274 said:

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In comment 13998790 arcarsenal said: Quote: In comment 13998784 nygnyy274 said: Quote: In comment 13998667 arcarsenal said: Quote: In comment 13998664 Jints in Carolina said: Quote: In comment 13998661 arcarsenal said: Quote: Tanaka is getting close, so that'll help a little bit. But yeah, no doubt Cashman is going to make a move for a starter. Don't be surprised if he acquires two... JA Happ and Cole Hamels? I think he'll stay away from Hamels - or at least I hope he does. Happ is a realistic target. Depending on what happens with the Angels, Richards is another guy worth checking in on down the road. I wouldn't hate going after Tyson Ross depending on the price. I still like German a lot, and I agree he should keep pitching and keep developing. Tanaka will/should take Johnny Lasagna's spot when he's back. German should get a few more turns through. Gray seems pretty unreliable right now. Sevvy and CC are the only two guys I think you can trust in a bigger spot right now. So, whether it's one starter or two.. it'll need to be addressed. But I'm still very much against dumping the farm to do it. Yankees are trying to win a World Series and you want to stay away from a proven pitcher whose got it done in the big spots of October in Hamels but will take Richards who is always hurt and Tyson Ross who stinks come on now Cole Hamels got absolutely rocked in his last postseason appearance. He gave up 6 runs in 3.1 innings. That was 2 years ago. Now he's 34 years old. He has a 5.14 FIP this year. He wasn't good last year, either. You want to give up a good prospect for him, be my guest. I'd say buyer beware. Richards is having a very solid year. Yeah, he has a hamstring strain so it depends if he gets back from that and pitches decently. But his k/9 is over 10 right now and he's been a respectable mid-rotation starter. Tyson Ross doesn't stink. He has a 3.34 ERA this year and was an all-star a few years ago. He has talent, he's been hurt and looks like he's getting his groove back now. I'm looking for guys who can help but won't cost a ton to acquire, so these guys aren't going to be perfect options. I don't think the right move here is unloading half the farm for one of the Mets pitchers or Blake Snell. The goal shouldn't be to go all in on this year, it should be to maximize the window of contention. Putting all our eggs in the 2018 basket would be the wrong approach, IMO. So because he is 34 and got rocked in the playoffs one game two years ago means he won’t be effective here??? Tyson Ross was terrible with Oakland and Texas let him stay in the west coast in the NL with the padres I want no part of him in New York,

Ross hasn't pitched in Oakland since 2012 - why is that relevant? Can't I turn around and use your logic?

So.. because he pitched poorly in Oakland 6 years ago means he won't be effective here?

I'm only going back 2 years. You're going back 6 years.

Hamels is the guy you want. Fine - what are you willing to part with to get him?

- Neil Walker's no swing 3 pitch strikeout?
- Clint Frazier's game-winning speaker ball out?
- The end of Chasen Shreve's career in pinstripes?

Seriously?

In comment 13998821 BigBlueShock said:

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Leave him in Tampa. Who didn’t see that coming?

Haha. Boone maybe? Certainly not anyone here posting in the thread.

I didn't expect it to be THAT quick though. I guess it's better to rip that band aid off quick than suffer through a 25 pitch 1/2 inning torture inning.

He should know this guy has been struggling. Wow swept by the fukin Rays?! smdh..

In comment 13998827 shockeyisthebest8056 said:

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- Neil Walker's no swing 3 pitch strikeout? - Clint Frazier's game-winning speaker ball out? - The end of Chasen Shreve's career in pinstripes?

Don't forget Sanchez getting injured.

thought it was legit. Just found out it was fake lol jfc

Clint Frazier's potential game-winning HR hits a goddamned speaker in that hellhole of a stadium, resulting in us losing our catcher and the game. Awesome.

In comment 13998833 Ryan in Albany said:

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thought it was legit. Just found out it was fake lol jfc

It might be the real thing in about 24 hours, ironically enough.

Gotta love it when he comes in. Ruining a great day (at last) by Stanton.

Shreve has allowed 9 runs in his last 9 games.. 4 HR's.

Absolutely have to DFA him.

I don't know if Kahnle is ready or not, but he's got to be a better option than Shreve. Shreve being a lefty is basically irrelevant since he can't get them out. (Or anyone, for that matter)

of the MLB Rankings next week?! This is BS and completely embarrassing. This shouldn't be happening, this is on Boone.

Not surprising.. but Boone said Sanchez is likely headed to the DL.

CBP next. Hopefully the bats wake up there. Missing Nola and should be able to park a bunch of balls over the short fences there.

keeping Shreve on the roster? It’s comical at this point.

Oh well, just one of those weekends that you’ll get over the course of a long season. Good news is Stanton is heating up.

do NOT bat the pitcher in front of or behind Torres/Andujar. If Bird is going to play, let him bat 8th and let our pitchers bat 9th.

In comment 13998826 arcarsenal said:

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In comment 13998822 nygnyy274 said: Quote: In comment 13998790 arcarsenal said: Quote: In comment 13998784 nygnyy274 said: Quote: In comment 13998667 arcarsenal said: Quote: In comment 13998664 Jints in Carolina said: Quote: In comment 13998661 arcarsenal said: Quote: Tanaka is getting close, so that'll help a little bit. But yeah, no doubt Cashman is going to make a move for a starter. Don't be surprised if he acquires two... JA Happ and Cole Hamels? I think he'll stay away from Hamels - or at least I hope he does. Happ is a realistic target. Depending on what happens with the Angels, Richards is another guy worth checking in on down the road. I wouldn't hate going after Tyson Ross depending on the price. I still like German a lot, and I agree he should keep pitching and keep developing. Tanaka will/should take Johnny Lasagna's spot when he's back. German should get a few more turns through. Gray seems pretty unreliable right now. Sevvy and CC are the only two guys I think you can trust in a bigger spot right now. So, whether it's one starter or two.. it'll need to be addressed. But I'm still very much against dumping the farm to do it. Yankees are trying to win a World Series and you want to stay away from a proven pitcher whose got it done in the big spots of October in Hamels but will take Richards who is always hurt and Tyson Ross who stinks come on now Cole Hamels got absolutely rocked in his last postseason appearance. He gave up 6 runs in 3.1 innings. That was 2 years ago. Now he's 34 years old. He has a 5.14 FIP this year. He wasn't good last year, either. You want to give up a good prospect for him, be my guest. I'd say buyer beware. Richards is having a very solid year. Yeah, he has a hamstring strain so it depends if he gets back from that and pitches decently. But his k/9 is over 10 right now and he's been a respectable mid-rotation starter. Tyson Ross doesn't stink. He has a 3.34 ERA this year and was an all-star a few years ago. He has talent, he's been hurt and looks like he's getting his groove back now. I'm looking for guys who can help but won't cost a ton to acquire, so these guys aren't going to be perfect options. I don't think the right move here is unloading half the farm for one of the Mets pitchers or Blake Snell. The goal shouldn't be to go all in on this year, it should be to maximize the window of contention. Putting all our eggs in the 2018 basket would be the wrong approach, IMO. So because he is 34 and got rocked in the playoffs one game two years ago means he won’t be effective here??? Tyson Ross was terrible with Oakland and Texas let him stay in the west coast in the NL with the padres I want no part of him in New York, Ross hasn't pitched in Oakland since 2012 - why is that relevant? Can't I turn around and use your logic? So.. because he pitched poorly in Oakland 6 years ago means he won't be effective here? I'm only going back 2 years. You're going back 6 years. Hamels is the guy you want. Fine - what are you willing to part with to get him?

Ross pitched in Texas last year he wasn’t terrible.. I’m not giving andujar Torres or Frazier for hamels

Still on this roster can somebody please explain to me???? Remember Chris Carter last year????? He was more productive then this guy has been. carter sucked but he did hit 8 home runs, he was getting paid 3.5 million Walker is getting 4 million just release him and call up Drury, Carter was released a year ago today to I believe, he was brought back a week later when Austin got hurt tho

He's just not getting out of his slump and it's been going on so long that it's way beyond a normal slump. With time off and a long rehab assignment, he can hit the reset switch and work on his swing, and getting his confidence back, under much less pressure. Hopefully Romine continues to produce, so no more hole in the lineup.

Well yeah, Torres or Frazier for Hamels would be lunacy. Absolutely no way that's happening.

If he's "cheap," it's not the worst move - but again, if you look under the hood there, there's a few red flags.

5.14 FIP, 19.8% HR/FB (highest of his career by a good bit), 1.235 WHIP.

Not sure he's the right guy.

1 - this shitbag of a stadium makes the Olympic stadium look like a baseball stadium.

2 - Walker is the next to go.

3 - Shreve is going to be better than this someplace else very soon.