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Sec 103 : 6/25/2018 1:32 pm
Uruguay Beats Russia fro Group A lead
Portugal - Iran
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Spain - Morocco battle for Group B...
AUPA ESPANA !!!
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Yeah, but the big news  
section125 : 6/25/2018 1:54 pm : link
is Saudiville beating Egypt..

Boy Russia folded like a cheap suit.
Spain down 1 nil  
Big Rick in FL : 6/25/2018 2:18 pm : link
In the first 20 minutes of the game. Is there anybody having a worst World Cup then de Gea? He's faced four shots on goal and has saved none of them. The only GK in the World Cup that hasn't made a single save.
Isco for the tie!!  
Big Rick in FL : 6/25/2018 2:22 pm : link
Is there a player having a better World Cup then Isco? He's been fucking awesome.
RE: Spain down 1 nil  
Jon in NYC : 6/25/2018 2:24 pm : link
In comment 13999353 Big Rick in FL said:
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In the first 20 minutes of the game. Is there anybody having a worst World Cup then de Gea? He's faced four shots on goal and has saved none of them. The only GK in the World Cup that hasn't made a single save.


Maybe the Madrid player that gifted him a breakaway.
There's De Gea  
Go Terps : 6/25/2018 2:26 pm : link
This Spain team is so, so loose at the back compared to past teams. They've made up for it by scoring more goals, but this isn't sustainable.
The Moroccans and Iranians really traveled for this tournament  
Go Terps : 6/25/2018 2:34 pm : link
Both of Spain's matches against them have been away games.

And regarding Isco, he's been absolutely brilliant. That said he has changed how Spain plays a bit and they're having a hard time adjusting. They aren't as organized, and it's resulting in extreme vulnerability to counterattacks.
Portugal 1-0  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 6/25/2018 2:47 pm : link
Quaresma with a nice goal.
Iniesta has been in the fucking mood today  
Go Terps : 6/25/2018 2:48 pm : link
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Spain is dominating  
Sec 103 : 6/25/2018 2:57 pm : link
Isco and Iniesta on another level.... But that D, way too loose... The giveaway was between Iniesta and Ramos... Costa also a tad sloppy had several opportunities. I suspect Spain will come through in the second half.
Of the four goals Spain has conceded,  
Go Terps : 6/25/2018 3:08 pm : link
three have been brutal mistakes: De Gea's blunder, Pique's stupid foul on Cristiano, and Ramos's blunder today.

That just won't do, especially if they face who I think has been the best team of the first round, Uruguay.
Renaldo denied on the PK...  
bw in dc : 6/25/2018 3:20 pm : link
What a save on the Isco header.
RE: Renaldo denied on the PK...  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 6/25/2018 3:21 pm : link
In comment 13999395 bw in dc said:
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What a save on the Isco header.


What a save is right.
RE: Spain is dominating  
bw in dc : 6/25/2018 3:25 pm : link
In comment 13999381 Sec 103 said:
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Isco and Iniesta on another level.... But that D, way too loose... The giveaway was between Iniesta and Ramos... Costa also a tad sloppy had several opportunities. I suspect Spain will come through in the second half.


Yank Costa and slide in Asencio.
Morocco 2-1!  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 6/25/2018 3:41 pm : link
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Wow, just wow...  
bw in dc : 6/25/2018 3:41 pm : link
Morocco with a stunner.

Spain has suddenly made things a bit more complicated...
That goal looked...  
bw in dc : 6/25/2018 3:50 pm : link
good.
Spain  
section125 : 6/25/2018 3:50 pm : link
should be tied. I do not see the offside.
just turned IRN vs POR  
madgiantscow009 : 6/25/2018 3:50 pm : link
bunch of guys whining at the ref.

just turned it off.

that's enough soccer for me until 2022.
No handball?  
schabadoo : 6/25/2018 3:51 pm : link
Thought Saudis got called for same thing.
Go it right...  
bw in dc : 6/25/2018 3:51 pm : link
Great goal, btw.
What an awful call in the Portugal match  
Giants in 07 : 6/25/2018 3:52 pm : link
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RE: just turned IRN vs POR  
schabadoo : 6/25/2018 3:56 pm : link
In comment 13999429 madgiantscow009 said:
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bunch of guys whining at the ref.

just turned it off.

that's enough soccer for me until 2022.


...yet you watch the NFL...
Craziness  
Go Terps : 6/25/2018 3:58 pm : link
.
Looking forward to that Portugal v Uruguay match...  
bw in dc : 6/25/2018 3:58 pm : link
I think Portugal will be heading home after the match. Good lick with Pepe dealing with Cavani and Suarez...
RE: RE: just turned IRN vs POR  
madgiantscow009 : 6/25/2018 3:59 pm : link
In comment 13999439 schabadoo said:
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In comment 13999429 madgiantscow009 said:


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bunch of guys whining at the ref.

just turned it off.

that's enough soccer for me until 2022.



...yet you watch the NFL...


it was ingrained at an early age, but I am down to one game a week and don't buy any of their products anymore and the Giants have way too many whiners.
What a sequence that was  
Kyle in NY : 6/25/2018 4:01 pm : link
What a group
Not a huge soccer fan  
Everyone Relax : 6/25/2018 4:02 pm : link
but I love watching the World Cup. What are the handball rules? I would think it has to be somewhat intentional. That call in the Portugal game looked atrocious.
RE: just turned IRN vs POR  
Jon in NYC : 6/25/2018 4:03 pm : link
In comment 13999429 madgiantscow009 said:
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bunch of guys whining at the ref.

just turned it off.

that's enough soccer for me until 2022.


Bye! See you in 4 years!
The call on Portugal was a bad call.  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 6/25/2018 4:06 pm : link
And it looks like something happened after the whistle - Spanish broadcast showed the referee give a card to a Portuguese player at the very end.
RE: Not a huge soccer fan  
Giants in 07 : 6/25/2018 4:07 pm : link
In comment 13999449 Everyone Relax said:
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but I love watching the World Cup. What are the handball rules? I would think it has to be somewhat intentional. That call in the Portugal game looked atrocious.


It was atrocious. Cost me my bet and Portugal the group.
RE: RE: Not a huge soccer fan  
schabadoo : 6/25/2018 4:11 pm : link
In comment 13999455 Giants in 07 said:
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In comment 13999449 Everyone Relax said:


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but I love watching the World Cup. What are the handball rules? I would think it has to be somewhat intentional. That call in the Portugal game looked atrocious.



It was atrocious. Cost me my bet and Portugal the group.


Saudis had a similar call today.
That group ended up being a giant pain in the ass  
Go Terps : 6/25/2018 4:14 pm : link
Iran and Morocco could easily have come out of it themselves.

I'd like Spain to beat Russia (though their monstrous center forward will pose a problem), but I wouldn't pick them to beat Croatia if it comes to that.
RE: That group ended up being a giant pain in the ass  
Sec 103 : 6/25/2018 4:18 pm : link
In comment 13999463 Go Terps said:
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Iran and Morocco could easily have come out of it themselves.

I'd like Spain to beat Russia (though their monstrous center forward will pose a problem), but I wouldn't pick them to beat Croatia if it comes to that.

Agreed.... But the Gallego should be in instead of Costas, don't you think?
Gotta be fair, Costa had three goals before today in two matches  
Go Terps : 6/25/2018 4:33 pm : link
I'd be fine with Aspas in for Costa, but I don't think Costa is necessarily a problem.

Guillem Balague (his Youtube channel has been phenomenal viewing during this tournament) made a great point that there are "2 Spains" playing right now. There's Busquets - Iniesta - Silva, and there's Isco - Costa - Koke/Thiago. All of these players are excellent and bring different things to the table, but they are not meshing - the former group is about positioning and ball retention whereas the latter is more direct and less organized.

Either approach on its own could work, but blending them has so far proved difficult. It's resulting in disorganized buildups that, when they break down, are hugely vulnerable to counterattacks.

That might be easier to deal with if Busquets had any pace and if De Gea were a different type of goalkeeper. De Gea is a shot stopper - he is not a distributor and he has no interest in being a sweeper/keeper. Spain needs a Neuer or Ter Stegen that prevents problems by reading the game rather than solving them with acrobatic saves.

Hierro has to recognize that counterattacks must be prevented at all costs. It's too late now to make huge changes in personnel or strategy...the team is what it is. Just do little things to prevent counterattacks:

- Short corners (a short corner produced the Aspas goal)
- More tactical fouls (I believe Busquets was the only guy on a yellow entering today)
- Keep Thiago (or possibly Saul) in to accompany Busquets

This team is very different from '08-'12. It's going to sink or swim on scoring goals rather than preventing them.
RE: Gotta be fair, Costa had three goals before today in two matches  
Sec 103 : 6/25/2018 4:56 pm : link
In comment 13999476 Go Terps said:
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I'd be fine with Aspas in for Costa, but I don't think Costa is necessarily a problem.

Guillem Balague (his Youtube channel has been phenomenal viewing during this tournament) made a great point that there are "2 Spains" playing right now. There's Busquets - Iniesta - Silva, and there's Isco - Costa - Koke/Thiago. All of these players are excellent and bring different things to the table, but they are not meshing - the former group is about positioning and ball retention whereas the latter is more direct and less organized.

Either approach on its own could work, but blending them has so far proved difficult. It's resulting in disorganized buildups that, when they break down, are hugely vulnerable to counterattacks.

That might be easier to deal with if Busquets had any pace and if De Gea were a different type of goalkeeper. De Gea is a shot stopper - he is not a distributor and he has no interest in being a sweeper/keeper. Spain needs a Neuer or Ter Stegen that prevents problems by reading the game rather than solving them with acrobatic saves.

Hierro has to recognize that counterattacks must be prevented at all costs. It's too late now to make huge changes in personnel or strategy...the team is what it is. Just do little things to prevent counterattacks:

- Short corners (a short corner produced the Aspas goal)
- More tactical fouls (I believe Busquets was the only guy on a yellow entering today)
- Keep Thiago (or possibly Saul) in to accompany Busquets

This team is very different from '08-'12. It's going to sink or swim on scoring goals rather than preventing them.

I'd stick with todays lineup sans Costa, I really like Aspas and his speed could come into play, that and he reminds me of a young Villa, sniper kind of striker. We would lose the height taking out Costa but I think it's the way to go Isco is playing lights out so far... The defense worries me in that the counters have been too many and too predictable. Anyhow let's hope the host country doesn't get the calls like South Korea did back in 2002...
WTF, Bobby?  
ColHowPepper : 6/25/2018 9:06 pm : link
You say should the w/e thread stay or should it go. I say start new. You say it should stay. Then there's this thread and you're posting like a banshee and don't even revert to say, oh well, new thread. Outta here!!

- I thought it was Pique who was caught looking at Iniesta's (too soft) touch pass back, and not Ramos. Am I wrong? If Pique, two glaring errors that led to goals.

- I also maintain that the offsides call was correct. I think the US football "clear error" (or whatever) standard should apply. His body lean brought his shoulder and upper body beyond the line of the 2nd to last Moroccan defender.

- And this selective invocation of VAR just shits the bed: How can you award Spain the goal on the offside call yet not review the takedown of Berg in the PA by Boateng and a second Germany defender in the 20th minute or so of H1.

- And to bitch further, even though perhaps a bit one-sided, the referee in Spain-Marocco was properly issuing cautions in H1 for reckless, late, and dangerous fouls, and, guess what: imo, the game cleaned up in 2H measurably if not completely. Had the officials in Switzerland-Brasil, or Switzerland-Serbia or many others officiated to respect the sport which is at the same time respecting the safety of the players, especially the players you would expect to be targeted, it would be better soccer and not as ugly as many of these matches have been, with less of the stage dramas to boot.
RE: WTF, Bobby?  
Sec 103 : 6/26/2018 7:25 am : link
In comment 13999650 ColHowPepper said:
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You say should the w/e thread stay or should it go. I say start new. You say it should stay. Then there's this thread and you're posting like a banshee and don't even revert to say, oh well, new thread. Outta here!!

- I thought it was Pique who was caught looking at Iniesta's (too soft) touch pass back, and not Ramos. Am I wrong? If Pique, two glaring errors that led to goals.

- I also maintain that the offsides call was correct. I think the US football "clear error" (or whatever) standard should apply. His body lean brought his shoulder and upper body beyond the line of the 2nd to last Moroccan defender.

- And this selective invocation of VAR just shits the bed: How can you award Spain the goal on the offside call yet not review the takedown of Berg in the PA by Boateng and a second Germany defender in the 20th minute or so of H1.

- And to bitch further, even though perhaps a bit one-sided, the referee in Spain-Marocco was properly issuing cautions in H1 for reckless, late, and dangerous fouls, and, guess what: imo, the game cleaned up in 2H measurably if not completely. Had the officials in Switzerland-Brasil, or Switzerland-Serbia or many others officiated to respect the sport which is at the same time respecting the safety of the players, especially the players you would expect to be targeted, it would be better soccer and not as ugly as many of these matches have been, with less of the stage dramas to boot.

As messed up as Pique has been, it was Ramos...
It was not offside.  
section125 : 6/26/2018 7:33 am : link
I could see that in real time and in replay with the line drawn as overlay, the Moroccan defender had a leg beyond the Spanish player. Close but onside. I think the Assist Ref was blocked on the play because of the lean.

IMHO, of course.
being barraged by the Sections this AM  
ColHowPepper : 6/26/2018 10:10 am : link
lol
Yeah, it was Ramos, as messed up as Pique has been. Didn't even seem he tried to elevate much to get his head on the ball on Marocco's go-ahead (winning!! (: ) goal.

It's true, I did not see an illustrator shot where a line was drawn from the his attacking position to the leg of the Morocco defender, so I yield on both counts.

And, you're absolutely correct, as an AR, if there are bodies in your line of vision--and AR's are instructed to keep to a line equal with the second to last defender (with the keeper most of the time being the last) or the ball, whichever is closer to the goal line--it is impossible to see through the body blockade.
France and Denmark in after a 0-0 draw.  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 6/26/2018 12:59 pm : link
Argentina and Nigeria is huge.
Messi  
UESBLUE : 6/26/2018 2:15 pm : link
finally shows up...
Messi!  
Kyle in NY : 6/26/2018 2:15 pm : link
.
Well that was a nice goal  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 6/26/2018 2:16 pm : link
Jesus.
Wow  
Go Terps : 6/26/2018 2:23 pm : link
Cometh the hour...
...  
Jon in NYC : 6/26/2018 2:26 pm : link
The ability  
Jon in NYC : 6/26/2018 2:29 pm : link
to take two touches without the ball hitting the ground, including one with his thigh, and then laser that with his off foot, is unreal.
Watching Banega and what he does for them  
Go Terps : 6/26/2018 2:32 pm : link
Makes you wonder what the hell Sampaoli was trying to achieve.
RE: The ability  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 6/26/2018 2:33 pm : link
In comment 14000020 Jon in NYC said:
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to take two touches without the ball hitting the ground, including one with his thigh, and then laser that with his off foot, is unreal.


He scored one in Champions league that was better, he's like a real life NHL 94 trick.
It's  
Jon in NYC : 6/26/2018 2:33 pm : link
really unclear. He does such a good job playing those long through balls.
RE: The ability  
Go Terps : 6/26/2018 2:33 pm : link
In comment 14000020 Jon in NYC said:
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to take two touches without the ball hitting the ground, including one with his thigh, and then laser that with his off foot, is unreal.


Just saw that replay. Incredible.
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