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NFT: Has anyone been to Oberammergau , Germany ?

Ron from Ninerland : 6/25/2018 3:48 pm
Apparently there's a passion play once every 10 years with the next one being in 2020. My wife would like us to go. The problem is that she is already having mobility problems which are likely to be worse by 2020. She walks gingerly with a cane and she already needs wheelchair assistance in airports and places like Disneyland.

Has anyone been to this town or this play ? I'm concerned about how accessible this whole experience is going to be. This town is in the alps and this tradition goes back to the Middle Ages. I've called travel agents but I can't get a clear answer. My wife has her heart set on this adventure, but if its all hills, cobblestones and narrow paths, I don't see how this is going to work.
I've been there a few times  
rebel yell : 6/25/2018 3:53 pm : link
because the military has an Armed Forces Recreation Center (AFRC) in Garmisch. It's a wonderful area. It will be more accessible than you think. Solid German engineering allows for excellent infrastructure. You'll also find that the beer brewed by the monks is second to none!
I was there about a year ago  
allstarjim : 6/25/2018 4:32 pm : link
It is a charming town. Be sure to do the Alpine Coaster. There is a brew house at the top of the mountain (seems like there is a brew house at the top of every mountain in the German Alps, lol.
Ron I don't recall any cobblestone  
allstarjim : 6/25/2018 4:38 pm : link
I think she would be ok. There are some steep inclines up walkways and so forth, however.
The center of town was relatively flat  
allstarjim : 6/25/2018 4:43 pm : link
from my recollection. It is in a valley. I would go. You can also check out the specific forum for that area on the Trip Advisor website. I'm sure if you post your question there you will get a more comprehensive, definitive answer. Here is the link:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowForum-g187302-i1345-Garmisch_Partenkirchen_Upper_Bavaria_Bavaria.html
I haven't been to Oberammergau specifically...  
Dunedin81 : 6/25/2018 4:44 pm : link
but I've been to Berchtesgaden and Munich. Infrastructure-wise everything is accessible. Handicap accessibility is not the best - it isn't the best anywhere in Germany - but in a tourist destination of consequence you should be fine.
RE: I haven't been to Oberammergau specifically...  
MOOPS : 6/25/2018 5:46 pm : link
In comment 13999486 Dunedin81 said:
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but I've been to Berchtesgaden and Munich. Infrastructure-wise everything is accessible. Handicap accessibility is not the best - it isn't the best anywhere in Germany - but in a tourist destination of consequence you should be fine.


Dune

We'll be passing through Berchtesgaden in September. Is it worth going up to Eagles Nest? I've read it's been pretty much stripped of anything historical.
MOOPS  
ColHowPepper : 6/25/2018 6:06 pm : link
Not Dunedin here, but nice of him to make an appearance.

Family as part of E Europe Eurail trip stayed in Salzburg 3 days: my daughter and I took the bus (35 minutes as I recall), but if you're driving. so much the better. Would definitely recommend, the ascent up the mountain--the roads so narrow that German precision has the buses begin ascents and descents to the minute so they can be at the pullovers at the same time. The ride up was filled with anticipation, and we weren't disappointed.

For sure, the Americans and Brits (who bombed Eagle's Nest in the last days of the war) took most that was not nailed down. But the original dining room for Hitler's staff is intact, the elevator that takes you up from the parking level ~300' in the shaft dug in the core of the mountain is the original; the unfinished underground bunkers, air vents, arms caches, inter-bunker communications, the extensive photo displays in the museum at the base of the mountain, Bohrman's home close to the museum (a German friend of mine same age as his kids played there)...totally glad I went.

Just BEING there was worth it aside from the tours of the bunkers, the museum, Berchtesgaden itself is set by a crystal clear river coming out of the spruce and pine clad mountains. If you are looking for Hollywood Glitz, you won't find it. It was basic, dyed in the wool historic venue, and I found it thrilling.
RE: MOOPS  
MOOPS : 6/25/2018 6:21 pm : link
In comment 13999551 ColHowPepper said:
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Not Dunedin here, but nice of him to make an appearance.

Family as part of E Europe Eurail trip stayed in Salzburg 3 days: my daughter and I took the bus (35 minutes as I recall), but if you're driving. so much the better. Would definitely recommend, the ascent up the mountain--the roads so narrow that German precision has the buses begin ascents and descents to the minute so they can be at the pullovers at the same time. The ride up was filled with anticipation, and we weren't disappointed.

For sure, the Americans and Brits (who bombed Eagle's Nest in the last days of the war) took most that was not nailed down. But the original dining room for Hitler's staff is intact, the elevator that takes you up from the parking level ~300' in the shaft dug in the core of the mountain is the original; the unfinished underground bunkers, air vents, arms caches, inter-bunker communications, the extensive photo displays in the museum at the base of the mountain, Bohrman's home close to the museum (a German friend of mine same age as his kids played there)...totally glad I went.

Just BEING there was worth it aside from the tours of the bunkers, the museum, Berchtesgaden itself is set by a crystal clear river coming out of the spruce and pine clad mountains. If you are looking for Hollywood Glitz, you won't find it. It was basic, dyed in the wool historic venue, and I found it thrilling.


Thanks. I'll make sure we fit it in.
We'll be staying in Salzburg for 4 nights, so have 3 and a half days to see the sights and will have a car for the first two. We also wanted to get up to the lake region as far as Halstatt and obviously spend time exploring Salzburg, probably 2 days. Sounds like we'll be busy.
This has been posted before  
Pork Chop : 6/25/2018 7:06 pm : link
pls delete
The region around Salzburg  
ColHowPepper : 6/25/2018 8:50 pm : link
as you are banking on is Sound of Music idyllic, mountains, lakes, meadows, rolling hills, Alpine villages.

Salzburg itself is funky, you'll get the hang of it in a day or so and figure out where you want to hang out, the lower square with the globe and giant chess board, from where you can see the Salzburg Fort and walk up that long hike--funky up there. It's a very tourist oriented town, so lots of good eateries, stores/restaurants opened 'til late.

There is a line of cafes, restaurants, and shoppes (for effect) that borders each side of the Salzach River that splits the city (and which, sort of counterintuitively to me) heads well north and east before it merges with the Danube) that are very pleasant to sit at and take the afternoon sun and evening sunsets while quaffing. And in fact the road to Berchtesgaden intermittently follows the Salzach as it heads SSE.

Eva Braun spent much more time at Eagle's Nest than did Hitler who was not fond of the site. She loved the gardens, the spectacular views from the mountain top. From the Nest itself, it's a short hike higher through rocks and meadows and woods. Lots of photos of historic meetings that took place there on the walls and in books. On the way back, the direct bus did not run, so we took the local through picture perfect small German and Austrian villages, an über conservative part of the world.
Thank you all for you comments  
Ron from Ninerland : 6/26/2018 12:27 am : link
Especially allstarjim
Of Course , I know what it is .... but,  
short lease : 6/26/2018 2:10 am : link
for those people who don't know what a passion play is all about .... Hell, I will do it for you (dawned on me at the last minute). : )

"Oberammergau Passion Play is a passion play performed since 1634[1] as a tradition by the inhabitants of the village of Oberammergau, Bavaria, Germany. It was written by Othmar Weis, J A Daisenberger, Otto Huber, Christian Stuckl, Rochus Dedler, Eugen Papst, Marcus Zwink, Ingrid H Shafer, and the inhabitants of Oberammergau, with music by Dedler.[2] Since its first production it has been performed on open-air stages in the village. The text of the play is a composite of four distinct manuscripts dating from the 15th and 16th centuries.[3]

The play is a staging of Jesus' passion, covering the short final period of his life from his visit to Jerusalem and leading to his execution by crucifixion, but it is the earliest continuous survivor of the age of Christian drama."



1634? That is some tradiiton ....



P.s. I really didn't know what it was ... ; )
The Army still runs the AFRC in Garmish?  
Giant John : 6/26/2018 4:12 am : link
I stayed there. It was $3.00 a night. Yes some time ago. Skied Garmish and Zugspitz. A memory I’ll never forget.
I didn't bother with the Eagle's Nest...  
Dunedin81 : 6/26/2018 11:21 am : link
though I've heard the views are spectacular. Berchtesgaden itself is stunning though, and well worth the trip. The water is glacial I think, a beautiful shade of blue, and the mountains are spectacular.
whelp, I just made the mistake  
santacruzom : 6/27/2018 7:50 pm : link
of looking at some images, and suddenly my nascent desire to move to Austria has matured considerably.
RE: whelp, I just made the mistake  
Ron from Ninerland : 6/28/2018 10:46 am : link
In comment 14001107 santacruzom said:
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of looking at some images, and suddenly my nascent desire to move to Austria has matured considerably.
Keep in mind there are no oceans in Austria .
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