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adamg : 6/25/2018 6:44 pm
CF Gardner
RF Judge
SS Didi
LF Stanton
3B Andujar
1B Bird
2B Torres
C Romine
P Loaisiga

New series. Flush the old one. Get this W!
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Fucking Boone  
section125 : 6/25/2018 9:32 pm : link
bringing in Betances with two outs. Does he ever learn?
Surprised at this pitching change. I don't like Betances with a  
yatqb : 6/25/2018 9:32 pm : link
runner on 1st. It's like an automatic man on 2nd given his inability to hold runners on and slow release. That said he's been lights out for us. We'll see.
I had a call and was on mute  
mfsd : 6/25/2018 9:34 pm : link
What was the hubbub between DRob and Joe West? DRob seemed pretty hot about something
RE: Surprised at this pitching change. I don't like Betances with a  
Eman11 : 6/25/2018 9:35 pm : link
In comment 13999672 yatqb said:
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runner on 1st. It's like an automatic man on 2nd given his inability to hold runners on and slow release. That said he's been lights out for us. We'll see.


He just needs to focus on the batter.

I'm more concerned with him sitting between innings, and coming out for a 2nd inning. Not exactly where he's been at his best this year.
How bout a run or five?  
bceagle05 : 6/25/2018 9:37 pm : link
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RE: The luster seems to  
Eman11 : 6/25/2018 9:40 pm : link
In comment 13999665 section125 said:
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have come off the Torres at bats. Swinging at two pitches well off the plate.

Greg Bird/Neil Walker - same black hole at the plate.


Did you miss the early rbi double to right tonight?
RE: I know the pitchers  
Hsilwek92 : 6/25/2018 9:41 pm : link
In comment 13999664 MookGiants said:
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probably like to get a chance to hit, but I still dont know why any AL team lets their pitchers do anything but bunt when they hit in NL parks. If I managed an AL team I wouldn't let the pitchers take the bat off of their shoulder unless it was to bunt. Take every pitch and walk back to the dugout unless they walk you.


I never understood why they didn’t switch it up and have AL teams playing in an NL ballpark use the DH and NL teams playing in AL ballparks have the pitcher hit. The whole point of interleague play was for fans to see teams they didn’t get to see. Let them see how each league plays as well.
Didi!  
adamg : 6/25/2018 9:44 pm : link
There's your bunt
That was a thing of beauty.  
bceagle05 : 6/25/2018 9:44 pm : link
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RE: RE: The luster seems to  
section125 : 6/25/2018 9:45 pm : link
In comment 13999679 Eman11 said:
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have come off the Torres at bats. Swinging at two pitches well off the plate.

Greg Bird/Neil Walker - same black hole at the plate.



Did you miss the early rbi double to right tonight?


Nope didn't miss it. Last few games he has lost his patience and is over swinging more often than before. Great at bat in the 2nd, true. You saw how much he cut down his swing there. He needs to keep doing that.
I love that play by Didi. I wish guys like Hicks would bunt  
yatqb : 6/25/2018 9:46 pm : link
when leading off an inning and the shift so severe that the 3B is playing SS. Anything you get down is a hit, and with that speed on the base path we'd be in good position, especially late in close games.
RE: Didi!  
section125 : 6/25/2018 9:46 pm : link
In comment 13999682 adamg said:
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There's your bunt


How to beat the shift...well done.

Now for Stanton to crush one.
Boone's fired up tonight.  
bceagle05 : 6/25/2018 9:47 pm : link
I like it.
RE: RE: I know the pitchers  
Eman11 : 6/25/2018 9:47 pm : link
In comment 13999680 Hsilwek92 said:
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probably like to get a chance to hit, but I still dont know why any AL team lets their pitchers do anything but bunt when they hit in NL parks. If I managed an AL team I wouldn't let the pitchers take the bat off of their shoulder unless it was to bunt. Take every pitch and walk back to the dugout unless they walk you.



I never understood why they didn’t switch it up and have AL teams playing in an NL ballpark use the DH and NL teams playing in AL ballparks have the pitcher hit. The whole point of interleague play was for fans to see teams they didn’t get to see. Let them see how each league plays as well.


If they want to keep the DH out of the NL that's fine. Just do like they do in AA and AAA, if there's an AL team involved the DH is used. They only go non DH when both teams are NL affiliated.

It makes zero sense to me why the major leagues don't use the same rules their upper level minor league teams do.
RE: RE: RE: The luster seems to  
Hsilwek92 : 6/25/2018 9:48 pm : link
In comment 13999684 section125 said:
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have come off the Torres at bats. Swinging at two pitches well off the plate.

Greg Bird/Neil Walker - same black hole at the plate.



Did you miss the early rbi double to right tonight?



Nope didn't miss it. Last few games he has lost his patience and is over swinging more often than before. Great at bat in the 2nd, true. You saw how much he cut down his swing there. He needs to keep doing that.


He’s a rookie. Do not lose your patience ;)
fortunate there  
MookGiants : 6/25/2018 9:48 pm : link
although that pitch should have gone about 500 feet.

Andujar gets a lot of praise, but he's still the guy I would make available in trade talks if they could bring a top starting pitcher back as part of the package.

Stanton’s hit into plenty of hard outs this season  
mfsd : 6/25/2018 9:48 pm : link
He deserves every bounce of that chopper for a 2 run single!
WTF?!  
terz22 : 6/25/2018 9:49 pm : link
Why?!?!
What was the point  
MookGiants : 6/25/2018 9:49 pm : link
of letting him swing the bat like that? He had as much chance to hit one of those pitches as I did sitting on my couch.
RE: What was the point  
Dave in PA : 6/25/2018 9:51 pm : link
In comment 13999694 MookGiants said:
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of letting him swing the bat like that? He had as much chance to hit one of those pitches as I did sitting on my couch.
yea but at least he channeled his inner Gary Sheffield
RE: RE: RE: RE: The luster seems to  
section125 : 6/25/2018 9:52 pm : link
In comment 13999690 Hsilwek92 said:

He’s a rookie. Do not lose your patience ;) [/quote]

Loves those high fastballs.....
RE: RE: RE: I know the pitchers  
Hsilwek92 : 6/25/2018 9:52 pm : link
In comment 13999689 Eman11 said:
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probably like to get a chance to hit, but I still dont know why any AL team lets their pitchers do anything but bunt when they hit in NL parks. If I managed an AL team I wouldn't let the pitchers take the bat off of their shoulder unless it was to bunt. Take every pitch and walk back to the dugout unless they walk you.



I never understood why they didn’t switch it up and have AL teams playing in an NL ballpark use the DH and NL teams playing in AL ballparks have the pitcher hit. The whole point of interleague play was for fans to see teams they didn’t get to see. Let them see how each league plays as well.



If they want to keep the DH out of the NL that's fine. Just do like they do in AA and AAA, if there's an AL team involved the DH is used. They only go non DH when both teams are NL affiliated.

It makes zero sense to me why the major leagues don't use the same rules their upper level minor league teams do.


Don’t get me wrong, the NL should just adopt the DH and stop with the, “Its more strategic.”, “It’s how the game should be played.” nonsense. Like the double switch is some kind of rocket science.

I’m just saying, IMO, they got the whole interleague this by wrong when it was implemented.
Well at least a little  
section125 : 6/25/2018 9:54 pm : link
cushion for Betances in the 8th, as we all hold our breath.
I don’t think Betances will ever be someone you can rely on  
Dave in PA : 6/25/2018 9:56 pm : link
His control sucks and swings violently from one batter to the next. You can’t have a guy like this on a playoff roster
Here we go....  
bceagle05 : 6/25/2018 9:56 pm : link
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Here we go  
section125 : 6/25/2018 9:57 pm : link
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Thanks Boone  
adamg : 6/25/2018 9:58 pm : link
Robertson couldn't go 1 more
RE: I don’t think Betances will ever be someone you can rely on  
MookGiants : 6/25/2018 9:59 pm : link
In comment 13999702 Dave in PA said:
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His control sucks and swings violently from one batter to the next. You can’t have a guy like this on a playoff roster


Yes, can't have a guy who has given up 1 hit in the last 13 innings on a playoff roster.

Sure, he can be wild, but unless you have 8 mariano riveras sitting in your bullpen, he's on every teams playoff roster.
RE: I don’t think Betances will ever be someone you can rely on  
Eman11 : 6/25/2018 9:59 pm : link
In comment 13999702 Dave in PA said:
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His control sucks and swings violently from one batter to the next. You can’t have a guy like this on a playoff roster


Jeez man I guess you haven't been watching him this year. He's been as good as he ever was.

They just need to keep him to one inning. Once they limited him to that he's been money.
RE: I don’t think Betances will ever be someone you can rely on  
section125 : 6/25/2018 9:59 pm : link
In comment 13999702 Dave in PA said:
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His control sucks and swings violently from one batter to the next. You can’t have a guy like this on a playoff roster


No you cannot bring him in for an out or two and send him back out the next inning.

To start an inning he is fine.
Joe West misses another.  
bceagle05 : 6/25/2018 10:01 pm : link
He'll be the crew chief in the World Series though.
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Hsilwek92 : 6/25/2018 10:02 pm : link
In comment 13999697 section125 said:
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In comment 13999690 Hsilwek92 said:

He’s a rookie. Do not lose your patience ;)


Loves those high fastballs..... [/quote]

I’m not worried. He’s shown he can make adjustments during his short time in the majors. I dont doubt he’ll continue to do so. Slumps happen.
Dumb ass Boone  
section125 : 6/25/2018 10:04 pm : link
cannot learn what is apparent to morons watching the game. Once Betances sits, he is done.
RE: RE: I don’t think Betances will ever be someone you can rely on  
mfsd : 6/25/2018 10:06 pm : link
In comment 13999708 section125 said:
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His control sucks and swings violently from one batter to the next. You can’t have a guy like this on a playoff roster



No you cannot bring him in for an out or two and send him back out the next inning.

To start an inning he is fine.


Agree with this...i don’t know what the stats are, but I think he’s much better starting a clean inning

This game is proving we still need Warren or Kahnle or both to get their shit together. Can’t alwats keep relying on only DRob, Betances, Chapman for 3+ innings
Giancarlo!  
bceagle05 : 6/25/2018 10:06 pm : link
Looking great lately.
Whew...he was right on that.  
yatqb : 6/25/2018 10:07 pm : link
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Sure helps when Chapman only needs 1 pitch  
mfsd : 6/25/2018 10:07 pm : link
to finish the inning!

And I’ll say this...he had a couple ugly games early, but since then Stanton’s been fine in LF
Betances not getting out of the 8th  
Eman11 : 6/25/2018 10:08 pm : link
Was as predicable as Shreve getting tagged last night.

Seriously, who here didn't see that coming? Now Chapman has to get an out and sit between innings.

Thankfully it was only one pitch but it's the getting warm, and sitting that bugs me. Nether of these guys is near their best when asked to do that.

RE: RE: RE: I don’t think Betances will ever be someone you can rely on  
section125 : 6/25/2018 10:10 pm : link
In comment 13999714 mfsd said:
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This game is proving we still need Warren or Kahnle or both to get their shit together. Can’t alwats keep relying on only DRob, Betances, Chapman for 3+ innings


Warren is back and pitching well.
I'm not sure  
MookGiants : 6/25/2018 10:11 pm : link
what else he really could have done tonight. Green was used two days in a row, Shreve sucks and used two days in a row. What should he have done differently? A little odd to call a guy a moron when they didn't give up a run. Holder got 7 outs yesterday so it's like he and Green were both unavailable today. What direction should he have gone for the 8th in a 4-1 game?
RE: Betances not getting out of the 8th  
section125 : 6/25/2018 10:12 pm : link
In comment 13999718 Eman11 said:
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Was as predicable as Shreve getting tagged last night.

Seriously, who here didn't see that coming? Now Chapman has to get an out and sit between innings.

Thankfully it was only one pitch but it's the getting warm, and sitting that bugs me. Nether of these guys is near their best when asked to do that.


I walked out of the room when I saw Shreve getting up yesterday....knew what would happen.

Chapman is not adversely affected coming back out. He is usually fine with 4 or 5 outs.
RE: I'm not sure  
Eman11 : 6/25/2018 10:12 pm : link
In comment 13999722 MookGiants said:
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what else he really could have done tonight. Green was used two days in a row, Shreve sucks and used two days in a row. What should he have done differently? A little odd to call a guy a moron when they didn't give up a run. Holder got 7 outs yesterday so it's like he and Green were both unavailable today. What direction should he have gone for the 8th in a 4-1 game?


Robertson could've finished the 7th IMO.
RE: I'm not sure  
Hsilwek92 : 6/25/2018 10:14 pm : link
In comment 13999722 MookGiants said:
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what else he really could have done tonight. Green was used two days in a row, Shreve sucks and used two days in a row. What should he have done differently? A little odd to call a guy a moron when they didn't give up a run. Holder got 7 outs yesterday so it's like he and Green were both unavailable today. What direction should he have gone for the 8th in a 4-1 game?


It’s easier to push blame onto a person than it is a circumstance.
RE: I'm not sure  
section125 : 6/25/2018 10:14 pm : link
In comment 13999722 MookGiants said:
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what else he really could have done tonight. Green was used two days in a row, Shreve sucks and used two days in a row. What should he have done differently? A little odd to call a guy a moron when they didn't give up a run. Holder got 7 outs yesterday so it's like he and Green were both unavailable today. What direction should he have gone for the 8th in a 4-1 game?


Left Robertson in for one more out. Pretty simple.
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mfsd : 6/25/2018 10:15 pm : link
In comment 13999720 section125 said:
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This game is proving we still need Warren or Kahnle or both to get their shit together. Can’t alwats keep relying on only DRob, Betances, Chapman for 3+ innings



Warren is back and pitching well.


Yup you’re right about Warren, and he pitched over an inning yesterday.

In the end, just dealing with emptying the bullpen in yesterday’s gut shot loss. Can’t really question Boone too much tonight.

Need Sevy to deliver another 8 strong tomorrow night
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Eman11 : 6/25/2018 10:15 pm : link
In comment 13999723 section125 said:
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Was as predicable as Shreve getting tagged last night.

Seriously, who here didn't see that coming? Now Chapman has to get an out and sit between innings.

Thankfully it was only one pitch but it's the getting warm, and sitting that bugs me. Nether of these guys is near their best when asked to do that.




I walked out of the room when I saw Shreve getting up yesterday....knew what would happen.

Chapman is not adversely affected coming back out. He is usually fine with 4 or 5 outs.


Yes, Chapman can do it, and way more effectively than Betances for sure. It's just to me he's at his best like Betances when only needing to go one inning.
RE: RE: I'm not sure  
Hsilwek92 : 6/25/2018 10:17 pm : link
In comment 13999726 section125 said:
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what else he really could have done tonight. Green was used two days in a row, Shreve sucks and used two days in a row. What should he have done differently? A little odd to call a guy a moron when they didn't give up a run. Holder got 7 outs yesterday so it's like he and Green were both unavailable today. What direction should he have gone for the 8th in a 4-1 game?



Left Robertson in for one more out. Pretty simple.


And if Robertson shits the bed? Maybe not your argument but, there are people who then say, “Boone left DRob in too long.”
Warren  
MookGiants : 6/25/2018 10:17 pm : link
hasn't pitched back to back days since April 8th. And you want him to pitch the 8th in a 4-1 game in an NL park where saving a pitcher is more important than it is in an AL Park? Coming off of a recent injury?

Boone should never have let Betances swing a bat, but he didn't have much other options than to keep him in the game
RE: RE: RE: Betances not getting out of the 8th  
section125 : 6/25/2018 10:18 pm : link
In comment 13999728 Eman11 said:
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Yes, Chapman can do it, and way more effectively than Betances for sure. It's just to me he's at his best like Betances when only needing to go one inning.


Oh, no doubt.
RE: Warren  
section125 : 6/25/2018 10:21 pm : link
In comment 13999731 MookGiants said:
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hasn't pitched back to back days since April 8th. And you want him to pitch the 8th in a 4-1 game in an NL park where saving a pitcher is more important than it is in an AL Park? Coming off of a recent injury?

Boone should never have let Betances swing a bat, but he didn't have much other options than to keep him in the game


Nobody said anything about Warren pitching tonight. What we said is that Robertson should have finished the 7th and Betances start the 8th. We all know Betances is almost always ineffective coming out for a 2nd inning. He just loses it between innings.
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