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Positive ID made, per acting prosecutor Dennis Calo: victim is Roosevelt Rene, a 25-year-old referred to as "a family friend of the residents" in a statement.
Investigation continuing + cause and manner of death will be determined after a post-mortem exam.
I purposely did not post it as it was unconfirmed, but now that the body portion has been proven true, I feel passing along the part about the brother and brother's friend being suspects might be more credible.
Thanks. It also lends credence to the story of Jenkins brothers behavior attempting to get on a flight out of Newark last night.
behind saying its stupid to say this doesnt look good for Jenkins, because obviously he was in Florida and he was not involved with whatever happened.
But seriously, OF COURSE its not good for Jenkins no matter who did what and when. A dead body was found in his house. That is horrible. It does not look good for Jenkins-and that doesnt mean he did something wrong at all. This sucks for him. Im not saying hes going to get cut or he was involved or he kept the wrong people close to him etc... but it doesnt look good for him because its not good for him. This is awful.
behind saying its stupid to say this doesnt look good for Jenkins, because obviously he was in Florida and he was not involved with whatever happened.
But seriously, OF COURSE its not good for Jenkins no matter who did what and when. A dead body was found in his house. That is horrible. It does not look good for Jenkins-and that doesnt mean he did something wrong at all. This sucks for him. Im not saying hes going to get cut or he was involved or he kept the wrong people close to him etc... but it doesnt look good for him because its not good for him. This is awful.
It's not good for anyone if someone was murdered but if someone breaks into your home and kills a house guest then you'd have a dead body in your home but no one would say it's a bad look for you.
Let's wait until we know more. If the facts reflect badly on Jenkins then we can say so at that time.
Regardless of what the police determine you know that Rodger Goddell who thinks he is the King of the World will launch his own investigation. Seriously if Jenkins had anything to do with it do you think he would leave the dead body at his house?
Regardless of what the police determine you know that Rodger Goddell who thinks he is the King of the World will launch his own investigation. Seriously if Jenkins had anything to do with it do you think he would leave the dead body at his house?
Or if he hired someone to wack a guy, that he'd arrange for it to be done in his basement?
Regardless of what the police determine you know that Rodger Goddell who thinks he is the King of the World will launch his own investigation. Seriously if Jenkins had anything to do with it do you think he would leave the dead body at his house? Or if he hired someone to wack a guy, that he'd arrange for it to be done in his basement?
Football players have done dumber things. Nothing would surprise me at this point.
Seem more concerned about how this tragedy will impact the Giants than the actual incident
Not judging, because I have those same thoughts.
But it reinforces the distraction and escape from some serious issues that sports represent for many of us sports fans
I like most of you feel badly when I read or hear things like this, but move on quickly.
I pray for the family to get through this ordeal, and at the same time hope Jenkins can still play and at a high level.
Sometimes you have to compartmentalism, it s just the way it is.
Not posting to reveal things you already know, just sharing how these things impact me, and that the shallowness it seems to reflect is more the norm than we might suspect.
and he said folks in the neighborhood told him that people stay at the house all the time when Jackrabbit is out of town. I have to think this happened without his knowledge.
I can't imagine anyone-no matter how dumb-killing someone, leaving the body at their house, & flying down to Florida. Come on.
OJ allegedly kind of did that. And, he got away with it. He "allegedly" killed his ex-wife and Ron Goldman at his ex-wife's house, left the bodies there and flew to Chicago a few hours later. Not saying Janoris did that, but murder is an irrational act, so because you would act rationally does not mean someone who committed a murder did as well.
FYI: I use the word allegedly because my goal is not to spark a debate about whether OJ did it or not, my point is that common/rational sense doesn't always work this way with people who commit irrational acts.
Is regardless of legal issues, which hopefully will be negligible, how will a brother's suicide in his house affect Janoris?
It wasnt his brother! The name of the man was Roosevelt Rene, a family friend.
I mean, I'm pretty sure Jay's saying, from a human being standpoint of someone losing a person they consider a brother to suicide, in their own home no less, that it may affect him mentally and/or emotionally. Don't get caught up on semantics.
Is regardless of legal issues, which hopefully will be negligible, how will a brother's suicide in his house affect Janoris?
It wasnt his brother! The name of the man was Roosevelt Rene, a family friend.
I mean, I'm pretty sure Jay's saying, from a human being standpoint of someone losing a person they consider a brother to suicide, in their own home no less, that it may affect him mentally and/or emotionally. Don't get caught up on semantics.
Huh? There was speculation it was his brother. It wasn't. No semantics involved.
I mean, I'm pretty sure Jay's saying, from a human being standpoint of someone losing a person they consider a brother to suicide, in their own home no less, that it may affect him mentally and/or emotionally. Don't get caught up on semantics.
How do you know Jenkins considered this guy a "brother"? What article to did you read that in?
I mean, I'm pretty sure Jay's saying, from a human being standpoint of someone losing a person they consider a brother to suicide, in their own home no less, that it may affect him mentally and/or emotionally. Don't get caught up on semantics.
How do you know Jenkins considered this guy a "brother"? What article to did you read that in?
Of the articles written, they've mentioned that he's a "family friend," they produced music together, the fella was living in his home, was at an airport claiming to be his brother, and the neighbors confirmed as much. Just using context clues that they were close.
Is regardless of legal issues, which hopefully will be negligible, how will a brother's suicide in his house affect Janoris?
It wasnt his brother! The name of the man was Roosevelt Rene, a family friend.
The guy claimed to be Janoris's brother but is not. He was the guy who tried to get on the plane, therefore he died between then and 10 am yesterday when the cleaning lady found him. Janoris was in Florida the whole time. Unless he hired the person to kill him he has nothing to do with it.
He said Jenkins brother is a person of interest in the death of Rene. Both men lived at Jenkins house at times. Rene was a music producer that recorded at least one rap song for Jenkins under his MC name Rabbit.
I can think of a few scenarios that would be bad for Jenkins as Im sure we all could.
Is regardless of legal issues, which hopefully will be negligible, how will a brother's suicide in his house affect Janoris?
It wasnt his brother! The name of the man was Roosevelt Rene, a family friend.
I mean, I'm pretty sure Jay's saying, from a human being standpoint of someone losing a person they consider a brother to suicide, in their own home no less, that it may affect him mentally and/or emotionally. Don't get caught up on semantics.
Huh? There was speculation it was his brother. It wasn't. No semantics involved.
Sorry I jumped to conclusions and thanks Colin.
Yes thye bigger issue is the effect on a person if someone he was close to, felt responsible for etc killed himself while a guest in his house.
Some reports were citing strangulation/suffocation as cause of death which I would have guessed meant a murder charge.
I'm not a criminal attorney but I think aggravated manslaughter might include "crimes of passion" (i.e. heat of the moment - like a fist fight where someone dies) ... whereas murder may be limited to deaths caused by advanced planning (leaving the fight, driving home to get your gun and then returning and shooting the victim).
I'm not sure, but I think it is something along those lines.
Positive ID made, per acting prosecutor Dennis Calo: victim is Roosevelt Rene, a 25-year-old referred to as "a family friend of the residents" in a statement.
Investigation continuing + cause and manner of death will be determined after a post-mortem exam.
Thanks. It also lends credence to the story of Jenkins brothers behavior attempting to get on a flight out of Newark last night.
How so if hes not involved? Obviously we dont know that yet but hes been in Florida since camp broke.
Or is this the same as your Macadoo will be back schtick from last year.
Given the information so far please explain how so?
Very strong. Wouldnt be BBI without it
everything bad seems to come from florida.
Seeing this thread my first thought was I wonder how many idiot posters comment about how this looks bad for Jenkins? Sad, but it delivered as usual.
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But if he was in Florida, why would this "not look good" for him?
everything bad seems to come from florida.
Umm, I don't think Florida has much to do with this death.
But seriously, OF COURSE its not good for Jenkins no matter who did what and when. A dead body was found in his house. That is horrible. It does not look good for Jenkins-and that doesnt mean he did something wrong at all. This sucks for him. Im not saying hes going to get cut or he was involved or he kept the wrong people close to him etc... but it doesnt look good for him because its not good for him. This is awful.
But seriously, OF COURSE its not good for Jenkins no matter who did what and when. A dead body was found in his house. That is horrible. It does not look good for Jenkins-and that doesnt mean he did something wrong at all. This sucks for him. Im not saying hes going to get cut or he was involved or he kept the wrong people close to him etc... but it doesnt look good for him because its not good for him. This is awful.
It's not good for anyone if someone was murdered but if someone breaks into your home and kills a house guest then you'd have a dead body in your home but no one would say it's a bad look for you.
Let's wait until we know more. If the facts reflect badly on Jenkins then we can say so at that time.
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Wait, what?
They Just may have got it wrong. Lot of moving parts.
It wasnt his brother! The name of the man was Roosevelt Rene, a family friend.
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Is regardless of legal issues, which hopefully will be negligible, how will a brother's suicide in his house affect Janoris?
It wasn�t his brother! The name of the man was Roosevelt Rene, a family friend.
....It appears from social media that Rene AKA Trypps Beatz
looks like they were possibly associated through music.
Or if he hired someone to wack a guy, that he'd arrange for it to be done in his basement?
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Agreed, let's get that out of the way now.
Webb to start, no more excuses.
Effin' Eli ... he will be broke 6 months after he retires and working at MacDonalds'. Wait and see ....
Well we just have to move on at this point. He suxes but we could probably get two 1st rd and a 2nd rd pick for him even though he suxes so bad
Or if he hired someone to wack a guy, that he'd arrange for it to be done in his basement?
That kind of stuff would never happen in New Jersey
Regardless of what the police determine you know that Rodger Goddell who thinks he is the King of the World will launch his own investigation. Seriously if Jenkins had anything to do with it do you think he would leave the dead body at his house? Or if he hired someone to wack a guy, that he'd arrange for it to be done in his basement?
Football players have done dumber things. Nothing would surprise me at this point.
Not judging, because I have those same thoughts.
But it reinforces the distraction and escape from some serious issues that sports represent for many of us sports fans
I like most of you feel badly when I read or hear things like this, but move on quickly.
I pray for the family to get through this ordeal, and at the same time hope Jenkins can still play and at a high level.
Sometimes you have to compartmentalism, it s just the way it is.
Not posting to reveal things you already know, just sharing how these things impact me, and that the shallowness it seems to reflect is more the norm than we might suspect.
OJ allegedly kind of did that. And, he got away with it. He "allegedly" killed his ex-wife and Ron Goldman at his ex-wife's house, left the bodies there and flew to Chicago a few hours later. Not saying Janoris did that, but murder is an irrational act, so because you would act rationally does not mean someone who committed a murder did as well.
FYI: I use the word allegedly because my goal is not to spark a debate about whether OJ did it or not, my point is that common/rational sense doesn't always work this way with people who commit irrational acts.
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Is regardless of legal issues, which hopefully will be negligible, how will a brother's suicide in his house affect Janoris?
It wasnt his brother! The name of the man was Roosevelt Rene, a family friend.
I mean, I'm pretty sure Jay's saying, from a human being standpoint of someone losing a person they consider a brother to suicide, in their own home no less, that it may affect him mentally and/or emotionally. Don't get caught up on semantics.
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Is regardless of legal issues, which hopefully will be negligible, how will a brother's suicide in his house affect Janoris?
It wasnt his brother! The name of the man was Roosevelt Rene, a family friend.
I mean, I'm pretty sure Jay's saying, from a human being standpoint of someone losing a person they consider a brother to suicide, in their own home no less, that it may affect him mentally and/or emotionally. Don't get caught up on semantics.
Huh? There was speculation it was his brother. It wasn't. No semantics involved.
I mean, I'm pretty sure Jay's saying, from a human being standpoint of someone losing a person they consider a brother to suicide, in their own home no less, that it may affect him mentally and/or emotionally. Don't get caught up on semantics.
How do you know Jenkins considered this guy a "brother"? What article to did you read that in?
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I mean, I'm pretty sure Jay's saying, from a human being standpoint of someone losing a person they consider a brother to suicide, in their own home no less, that it may affect him mentally and/or emotionally. Don't get caught up on semantics.
How do you know Jenkins considered this guy a "brother"? What article to did you read that in?
Of the articles written, they've mentioned that he's a "family friend," they produced music together, the fella was living in his home, was at an airport claiming to be his brother, and the neighbors confirmed as much. Just using context clues that they were close.
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Is regardless of legal issues, which hopefully will be negligible, how will a brother's suicide in his house affect Janoris?
It wasnt his brother! The name of the man was Roosevelt Rene, a family friend.
The guy claimed to be Janoris's brother but is not. He was the guy who tried to get on the plane, therefore he died between then and 10 am yesterday when the cleaning lady found him. Janoris was in Florida the whole time. Unless he hired the person to kill him he has nothing to do with it.
I can think of a few scenarios that would be bad for Jenkins as Im sure we all could.
Probably no one. If hes allowed to stay in Florida hes obviously not a person of interest at this time.
Want to do a break in?
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advised him to stay in Fl. So who is watching the house now?
Probably no one. If hes allowed to stay in Florida hes obviously not a person of interest at this time.
Its early. They will get his brothers electronic devices.
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advised him to stay in Fl. So who is watching the house now?
Probably no one. If hes allowed to stay in Florida hes obviously not a person of interest at this time.
Its early. They will get his brothers electronic devices.
Other thread says his brother is not a person of interest.
Huh, the other thread explicitly says the brother is.
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Is regardless of legal issues, which hopefully will be negligible, how will a brother's suicide in his house affect Janoris?
It wasnt his brother! The name of the man was Roosevelt Rene, a family friend.
I mean, I'm pretty sure Jay's saying, from a human being standpoint of someone losing a person they consider a brother to suicide, in their own home no less, that it may affect him mentally and/or emotionally. Don't get caught up on semantics.
Huh? There was speculation it was his brother. It wasn't. No semantics involved.
Sorry I jumped to conclusions and thanks Colin.
Yes thye bigger issue is the effect on a person if someone he was close to, felt responsible for etc killed himself while a guest in his house.
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The brother of Janoris Jenkins charged with aggravated manslaughter.
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#BCPONJ & @FairLawnPD announce William H. JENKINS, Jr. of Fair Lawn, charged: Agg. Manslaughter for death of Roosevelt Rene.
JENKINS in custody in Ontario Co., NY. Investigation ongoing, unable to release further info. Charges merely accusations. Defendant presumed innocent.
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Jordan Raanan Retweeted BCPONJ
The brother of Janoris Jenkins charged with aggravated manslaughter.
Hopefully theres nothing else to it. Sad situation for the victim and his family though.
I'm not a criminal attorney but I think aggravated manslaughter might include "crimes of passion" (i.e. heat of the moment - like a fist fight where someone dies) ... whereas murder may be limited to deaths caused by advanced planning (leaving the fight, driving home to get your gun and then returning and shooting the victim).
I'm not sure, but I think it is something along those lines.