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Good Coordinators usually find ďtheirĒ guys

Big Blue '56 : 6/26/2018 6:32 pm
Not always of course, but doesnít it always SEEM, like other teams find their plug and players after having lost a key guy or two? Thatís what drafting and UDFAs are all about, not to mention roster cuts elsewhere.

I recall and easily could be wrong, that the year Dallas went 13-3 in Zekeís rookie year, the Cowboys lost 3 Secondary starters and most everyone said they were toast. I did, but because of the retirement of Romo, not because of their injuries. I felt a guy like Marinelli could find his players and get the job done..Yes, perhaps it was a year or two before that they lost those starters, but regardless, solid to elite coaches/coordinators generally find a way. Thatís why they coach at this level. Granted, total decimation is difficult to overcome for any coordinator this side of Belichick.

No matter what shakes out with our D in general and our Secondary in particular, I believe Bettcherís the guy to get his guys to fit what he wants to do. Yes, a team effort. Other than the Giants, I cut back a lot of football watching, but living in Az, I did watch many of the Cardsí games on GamePass. Bettcher did a helluva job there with his oft-injured personnel. Iím very excited about this guy and unlike recent coordinators of ours, he knows how to make quick adjustments, often on the fly. That is my hope here.

I thought of this subject in light of the Jenkins thread,  
Big Blue '56 : 6/26/2018 6:47 pm : link
albeit I will not rush to judgement whatsoever. But, the ďtotally hypotheticalĒ loss of JJ and the lamenting that will undoubtedly ensue(understandable), led to this thread synapse. :)
Hey 56. Hope you are well.  
LauderdaleMatty : 6/26/2018 6:59 pm : link
Bill B was able to use Troy Brown as a DB. Great
Coaches adjust. It's not easy but he's the best ever at what your are describing. He finds a way most times.
RE: Hey 56. Hope you are well.  
Big Blue '56 : 6/26/2018 7:03 pm : link
In comment 14000330 LauderdaleMatty said:
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Bill B was able to use Troy Brown as a DB. Great
Coaches adjust. It's not easy but he's the best ever at what your are describing. He finds a way most times.


Hey buddy..And yes, that is my optimism as it pertains to Bettcher, albeit not a Belichick, but, Iíll settle for a Marinelli type solid
Donít the great ones  
RetroJint : 6/26/2018 9:46 pm : link
match their systems to the available talent? I remember you writing about that once , or perhaps Iím mistaken ?

I will say , however, that without qualification the best off-season development was the DC hire . Iíve got issues with quite a bit that went down-call me a skeptic . But I look forward to watching the amoeba in action, although I expect a brutal first month .
RE: RE: Hey 56. Hope you are well.  
LauderdaleMatty : 6/26/2018 10:35 pm : link
In comment 14000332 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 14000330 LauderdaleMatty said:


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Bill B was able to use Troy Brown as a DB. Great
Coaches adjust. It's not easy but he's the best ever at what your are describing. He finds a way most times.



Hey buddy..And yes, that is my optimism as it pertains to Bettcher, albeit not a Belichick, but, Iíll settle for a Marinelli type solid
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Marinelli has been a magician in Dallas. If we get the offense on track and Betcher can utilize the talent on the D there should be a big turn around.
Collins and Hankins are all pro types. Vernon could be one used correctly. Jenkins was a monster 2 years ago. Iíd suggest the Giants have a lot more defensive talent then Dallas so if he can be that good we are In for some good defense again
Yeah, I think the best adjust their system...  
Dan in the Springs : 6/26/2018 10:54 pm : link
To allow the players to do more of what they're best at. Finding the ideal players for their system could take years.
RE: Yeah, I think the best adjust their system...  
Big Blue '56 : 6/27/2018 7:37 am : link
In comment 14000495 Dan in the Springs said:
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To allow the players to do more of what they're best at. Finding the ideal players for their system could take years.


The Steelers had extraordinary LBs through the years, but there were years their D suffered injuries, at times clustered and yet LeBeau didnít miss a flucking beat.

The great ones find away and thatís been pretty well chronicled through the decades. Not putting Bettcher in any ďgreatĒ class yet, but Iím very optimistic on that front
RE: Donít the great ones  
Racer : 6/27/2018 9:44 am : link
In comment 14000454 RetroJint said:
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-call me a skeptic .


Well. No shit.
RE: Donít the great ones  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 6/27/2018 10:44 am : link
In comment 14000454 RetroJint said:
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match their systems to the available talent? I remember you writing about that once , or perhaps Iím mistaken ?

I will say , however, that without qualification the best off-season development was the DC hire . Iíve got issues with quite a bit that went down-call me a skeptic . But I look forward to watching the amoeba in action, although I expect a brutal first month .

Drafting Adrien Robinson for a Gilbride offense is definitely not a good idea.

Nor ignoring LBs for a Fewell Tampa 2 defense (Urlacher, Briggs, Brooks).
if good coorindators find their guys  
mdc1 : 6/27/2018 5:34 pm : link
then I guess they are doing their jobs? Seriously?
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Big Blue '56 : 6/27/2018 6:07 pm : link
In comment 14001025 mdc1 said:
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then I guess they are doing their jobs? Seriously?


Are you not getting the crux of the thread? What Iím saying is, all coaches plug in players to replace the injured, but the special DCs such as LeBeau, Jim Johnson, Belichick, Marinelli and so on, find a way of keeping their Ds effective even with a dirth of depth and first team talent at their disposal. I believe, hope, that Bettcher can be that guy. Spags was good when he had a full complement of starters at his disposal, not so good when he didnít. I believe Bettcher will be able to still field a very competitive D even if they are thin depthwise in certain areas or are thin on frontline talent..

Thatís the entire point. The good to great DCs lose very little production even when they plug in non-starters or street FAs..I could be proven totally wrong on Bettcher, but thatís my take entering the regular season
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