I don't know your guys' experience with this but this article makes me think that there might be a God in this world. I was out of work for a year about a year ago. Most of my worst experiences happened when recruiters ghosted me. It's also happened to me in the dating world, in fact it JUST happened to me. There's literally nothing worse than being ghosted. The fact that it's happening to self involved and selfish recruiters has made my day. This is the best example of Karma I've seen in a while.
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2. I see people ghosting while working. Answering only the most critical e-mails. Attending mandatory meetings but basically that is all. Stealing a pay check. They could be working for two companies at the same time in different industries collecting two pay checks and nobody would know.
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It's unprofessional.
Applied for a job, aced the interviews, and did some preliminary negotiations on an offer with HR. When a formal offer wasn't forthcoming, I contacted the HR rep I had spoken to. After the first contact, she said they were still working on it. Despite repeated efforts to get some information, I never heard from them again. I later found out (through back channels) they eliminated the position I interviewed for due to budget cuts. But they never bothered to to inform me of this, even though I was told I was their #1 candidate. Completely unprofessional IMO.
I would never ghost an employer. I can't even fathom doing that.
Had it happen to me on Monday. Had a person going to an interview call me at 6AM to let me know his car broke down on the way to the interview. Not a big deal, not great, but hey it is what it is. I tell him to call the person he interviewing with and he does so.
Fast forward a few hours. The client has called and texted this guy to see when he can reschedule. I call a few times on Monday, and get nothing. I shoot a text get nothing.
Yesterday, I try him again, and now I have been blocked. How do I know? My office line goes straight to voicemail, but my cell rings free.
Verdict, he probably got another job and didn't want to tell me or he got locked up.
This guy was someone who called me all the time. Even when I didn't have anything to talk to him about. So for him to go dark like this is weird, but honestly not unexpected.
I do understand the difficulty in getting back to everybody who applies. But, once there is an interview, the results need to be communicated. It really isn't difficult with e-mail.
Same goes for individuals. When I got my Master's in accounting, like everyone just graduating, there are a ton of interviews and career days etc. I had four career days lined up when I accepted my job. I simply e-mailed each one the exact same e-mail stating I appreciate the opportunity but I was taking the job I was offered. Why burn bridges?
Not sure if you really care, but the term catfish has an interesting origin. Catfishing actually stems from a documentary movie. Nev Shulman met a female online and began filming to document the romantic relationship and eventual meet-up.
Of course, she made all the excuses not to meet, and when they finally did track her down, Nev discovered the woman was not young and single, but in her 40's and married. Her husband described her as a "catfish" because she's the type of person that keeps you on your toes and thinking, similar to the way catfish were used to keep cod being shipped in containers to China agile. Nev made the show based off the movie and the term stuck.
I'm not so much a fan of the show, but I saw the movie early on after it's release and found it interesting.
I felt bad, but not that bad, I had several headhunters call me for jobs, then never call me back.. or call me, then call 5 other people in my group giving them the same pitch. A lot of them just throw a bunch of **** against the wall and see what sticks, and tell you everything you want to hear to get their $.
The best is when they ask if I know someone that might be interested in an opening... Sure I'll serve that free commission right up to you
Just recently a local small CPA emailed me out of the blue asking if I was available to work the tax season. I said that I had not committed to working during 2019 and that I would meet with him to discuss. When I showed up at this office the door was locked - nobody was there. I called and left a voice mail then followed up with an email and .....nothing. What an asshole.
I don't expect a formal letter, but common, how hard is it to automatically generate an email?
I don't expect a formal letter, but common, how hard is it to automatically generate an email?
What field are you in?
Personally, I think its a terrible professional decision as you never know what the future brings, plus good things happen to people that do things the right way. It's a bad look on both sides.
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This article makes me smile a little. I've applied for dozens of jobs where I haven't even received a robo email saying they've received the application.
I don't expect a formal letter, but common, how hard is it to automatically generate an email?
What field are you in?
Financial Analyst with 20 years experience primarily in the power generation space.
People who "ghost" companies/recruiters as a sort of karmic payback because they themselves were once "ghosted" are even worse, because they know exactly the pain/frustration caused by the behavior.
Companies/recruiters who ghost candidates don't deserve strong candidates, and job-seekers who ghost recruiters/companies don't deserve good jobs. The same goes for "ghosting" in the dating world.
As a candidate I'd never even consider it. Takes very little effort to be the better person.
Yeah it was done when it started, nevermind having it twice in the post and again in the title.
Not interested. I've done this about a dozen times in the last 5 years being super picky with jobs and getting hot all at once with leads and offers after months of searching.
Ultimately I took the wrong job pay wise, but the best one work life balance wise
Not interested. I've done this about a dozen times in the last 5 years being super picky with jobs and getting hot all at once with leads and offers after months of searching.
Ultimately I took the wrong job pay wise, but the best one work life balance wise
What's the difference in pay? My job pays decent, but the work-life is amazing and it is a very secure job. I could make much more at other places, but I don't want to give up the work-life balance or the job security. I know I can work here until I retire.
Pay isn't everything. It's definitely a consideration but benefits, work-life and job security should also be considered.
I don't like delivering bad news either. But e-mail makes it easy. A short "I took a position elsewhere. Thank you for your consideration" can go a long way and you won't burn any bridges.
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I need to be more alpha and let jobs know when I'm
Not interested. I've done this about a dozen times in the last 5 years being super picky with jobs and getting hot all at once with leads and offers after months of searching.
Ultimately I took the wrong job pay wise, but the best one work life balance wise
What's the difference in pay? My job pays decent, but the work-life is amazing and it is a very secure job. I could make much more at other places, but I don't want to give up the work-life balance or the job security. I know I can work here until I retire.
Pay isn't everything. It's definitely a consideration but benefits, work-life and job security should also be considered.
I don't like delivering bad news either. But e-mail makes it easy. A short "I took a position elsewhere. Thank you for your consideration" can go a long way and you won't burn any bridges.
The pay difference came out to about an extra 10% or so maybe 25% if I wanted to be very optimistic. But the hours and schedule and work place and long term placement etc etc was all over the place at one of the main ones I ghosted so I simply took the offer that had great work team, culture, freedom, paid time off, all that good stuff I took. Only thing lacking with the job I took are those spicy bonuses. Pay is the name of the game though, if your gonna take less, just make sure you own the job you take instead to AN elite level and enjoy it more then other jobs when your on that 3 week vacation in the dead of winter on a tropical island enjoying the fruits the labor while FRESH and not dead tired from 6-8 months of work etc at a job that just kills your mind body and soul . A job should only kill one of those things max
Fully agree with everything you said, couldn't have said it better.