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Becoming Big Blue: Giants Uniform History updated & revised

truebluelarry : 6/28/2018 12:58 pm
The article I originally wrote for BBI five years ago has been updated to include the recent past, as well as incorporate new information and significant changes in the 1920s and 1930s.

Some of you are already aware that I am a researcher for the Gridiron Uniform Database. Our big task this offseason has been to deep-dive into historic newspaper databases searching for game photographs for the first two decade's of pro football. I've included the new findings for the Giants into this revision.

There's a link to the Giants page at the GUD. I encourage readers to click and explore the entire site. Thousands of hours of work have gone into what you'll see there.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

(and yes, I've posted this thread with Eric's blessing!)
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Amazing amount of information...  
M.S. : 6/28/2018 3:50 pm : link

...Larry!

Thanks so much for all the research and wonderful write-up!!!

My Dad started taking me to Giants games in 1960 so reading your uniform article brought back many fond memories!
You're welcome.  
truebluelarry : 6/28/2018 5:20 pm : link
I love hearing things like that. I enjoy history and sharing it is very rewarding.
Thanks  
Archer : 6/28/2018 5:32 pm : link
Brings back many good memories
How did they play this physical game  
Alwaysblue22 : 6/28/2018 6:21 pm : link
With only skimpy leather helmets? They probably suffered concussions on every play.
RE: How did they play this physical game  
truebluelarry : 6/28/2018 6:53 pm : link
In comment 14001954 Alwaysblue22 said:
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With only skimpy leather helmets? They probably suffered concussions on every play.


Tackling technique was very different. They rarely if ever launched into the ball carrier. Also remember, it was a two-way game until the late 1940's. After a change of possession players didn't leave the field. The game was more about endurance, players conserved energy and protected their bodies,
This is an excellent video from 1939  
truebluelarry : 6/28/2018 7:10 pm : link
featuring Giants stars like Mel Hein, Tuffy Leemans, Ward Cuff and Ed Danowski.

Highly recommended viewing.
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Very cool film of legendary Giants and another great article...  
kinard : 6/28/2018 10:50 pm : link
... hope you're going to put all of these articles into a book - it would be the best one ever on the history of the team - top to bottom,

Wish I could find one of those 1956 navy blue starter jackets (with red trim and an interlocked ny on the side) that they used to wear coming onto the field. Those were bad-ass..
Thanks Kinard!  
truebluelarry : 6/29/2018 1:50 pm : link
Ironically I shopped around the concept of a book last spring. I had a publisher interested...we went back and forth with some editing...long story short, its going to need to be a total rewrite. I think perhaps next offseason that will be my focus. Rewrite everything then shop it around again. Its a tedious process to say the least, but I think I need to do it.
Wow ... I read the article and clicked on the link.  
short lease : 6/30/2018 6:21 am : link
All I see is work ; ). That must have taken forever to research and put together Larry. Thanks for doing that. It should be a book ...
RE: Thanks Kinard!  
short lease : 6/30/2018 6:24 am : link
In comment 14002537 truebluelarry said:
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Ironically I shopped around the concept of a book last spring. I had a publisher interested...we went back and forth with some editing...long story short, its going to need to be a total rewrite. I think perhaps next offseason that will be my focus. Rewrite everything then shop it around again. Its a tedious process to say the least, but I think I need to do it.


Have you thought about self-publishing? I don't know to much about it but, I am pretty sure they have web-based services now that are relatively inexpensive(?).
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short lease : 6/30/2018 6:31 am : link
In comment 14002938 short lease said:
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Ironically I shopped around the concept of a book last spring. I had a publisher interested...we went back and forth with some editing...long story short, its going to need to be a total rewrite. I think perhaps next offseason that will be my focus. Rewrite everything then shop it around again. Its a tedious process to say the least, but I think I need to do it.



Have you thought about self-publishing? I don't know to much about it but, I am pretty sure they have web-based services now that are relatively inexpensive(?).



If you are interested .... "Book Baby" self publishing company.



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RE: RE: How did they play this physical game  
PatersonPlank : 6/30/2018 9:22 am : link
In comment 14001968 truebluelarry said:
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With only skimpy leather helmets? They probably suffered concussions on every play.



Tackling technique was very different. They rarely if ever launched into the ball carrier. Also remember, it was a two-way game until the late 1940's. After a change of possession players didn't leave the field. The game was more about endurance, players conserved energy and protected their bodies,


I really believe that if the NFL did away with helmets all this crap would go away. Players would immediately stop using their head on tackles, and all players would stop putting their heads down on contact. Watch rugby, the runners are upright and the tacklers use arm and body techniques instead of just trying to become a missle and blow someone up. Maybe I am naive, but thats what I think
As always Larry, a big thank you. Always look forward  
Big Blue '56 : 6/30/2018 9:27 am : link
to this. When I first started following the Giants in ‘56, there were no red unis. I’m wondering if when they moved to Yankee Stadiun in ‘56, that they consciously decided to forego them completely?
I looked into self publishing.  
truebluelarry : 6/30/2018 10:28 am : link
I'd really like to do it through a publisher. It is more difficult, but the end product will be much better. I've already learned quite a bit from my experience. We'll see how it goes, it's a long term project.
RE: As always Larry, a big thank you. Always look forward  
truebluelarry : 6/30/2018 10:32 am : link
In comment 14002972 Big Blue '56 said:
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to this. When I first started following the Giants in ‘56, there were no red unis. I’m wondering if when they moved to Yankee Stadiun in ‘56, that they consciously decided to forego them completely?


They pretty much stopped wearing the red jerseys in 1953 when it was replaced with the white jersey. For a few years the red jersey was worn for pre season and occasional night games when white jerseys were not allowed.

Essentially, for the years 1953-1956 the white jersey was the Giants primary jersey. There was no "home" and "road" designation until 1957 when the NFL passed the rule that all teams were required to have two jersey, one of which had to be white. That year was the first the Giants began wearing blue at home. Prior to that they almost always worn either red or white.
RE: RE: As always Larry, a big thank you. Always look forward  
Big Blue '56 : 6/30/2018 11:30 am : link
In comment 14003008 truebluelarry said:
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to this. When I first started following the Giants in ‘56, there were no red unis. I’m wondering if when they moved to Yankee Stadiun in ‘56, that they consciously decided to forego them completely?



They pretty much stopped wearing the red jerseys in 1953 when it was replaced with the white jersey. For a few years the red jersey was worn for pre season and occasional night games when white jerseys were not allowed.

Essentially, for the years 1953-1956 the white jersey was the Giants primary jersey. There was no "home" and "road" designation until 1957 when the NFL passed the rule that all teams were required to have two jersey, one of which had to be white. That year was the first the Giants began wearing blue at home. Prior to that they almost always worn either red or white.


Actually Larry they did wear home blue jerseys during some of the games in 1956. In fact, my first ever home game in ‘56 was against the Chicago Cardinals and I remember the Blue. Of course i started doubting my sanity after your post, so I went to You Tube for that 23-10 home win over the Cards and we were wearing Blue. Sanity restored..:)

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And yes, mostly white I believe at home.  
Big Blue '56 : 6/30/2018 11:32 am : link
I recall of course the title game wearing white, but thought mostly blue at home, white away
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truebluelarry : 6/30/2018 3:29 pm : link
In comment 14003054 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 14002972 Big Blue '56 said:

Actually Larry they did wear home blue jerseys during some of the games in 1956. In fact, my first ever home game in ‘56 was against the Chicago Cardinals and I remember the Blue. Of course i started doubting my sanity after your post, so I went to You Tube for that 23-10 home win over the Cards and we were wearing Blue.
Sanity restored..:) Link - ( New Window )


Hey - you don't need to work that hard...

Right now at the GUD we have nearly every matchup displayed going back as far as 1931. There are some holes here and there for games we haven't yet discovered a photo, but we have most covered.

All you have to do is go to the Giants team page, then click on a year and scroll down.
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1954 is a great example.  
truebluelarry : 6/30/2018 3:47 pm : link
Over 12 games the Giants wore their white jerseys 9 times - including all 6 home games at the Polo Grounds.

They wore their blue jerseys 2 times - at Cleveland and at Philadelphia who both wore white at home. They wore their red jerseys once - at Baltimore for a night game which was color-vs-color, as the Colts wore their blue jerseys.
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Ok. Terrific  
Big Blue '56 : 6/30/2018 4:00 pm : link
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