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OliverG84 : 6/29/2018 3:32 pm
Painting the living room - two questions.
Going from like a deep red to light beige color - if it matters.

1-Better to prime then paint or get the primer with paint?
Heard good/bad on both- mostly time/quality related.

2-Also anyone have experience with the paint stick with the paint already in the handle? Might save time but never used.

Thanks in advance!
Personally, I would prime white first  
I Love Clams Casino : 6/29/2018 3:41 pm : link
also, I'd stay away from gimmicky items like that....they never work as intended.

1 thing I can recommend, buy Purdy brand brushes. You won't be sorry, stay away from cheap brushes. It makes all the difference...you barley need painters tape with a Purdy if your hand is steady enough
I second Purdy.  
DC Gmen Fan : 6/29/2018 3:44 pm : link
Prime with a white primer first. Then get a paint w/ primer if you want. And do 2 coats. Even one coat of "1 coat paint" will still show little specks of white. 2 coats will look great and even better over primed walls.

Paint and primer in one is a misnomer  
Jim in Fairfax : 6/29/2018 3:55 pm : link
It doesn’t actually have “primer” in the paint. What it has is a high density of color blocking solids, which should allow fewer coats. It doesn’t do the other things primers do: seal stains, adhere extremely well, and provide a high adhesion surface.

If your walls are clean and free of anything that needs sealing, you could probably get away with two coats of high quality paint. But personally, I’d prime. It’s a lot cheaper than paint and has the other benefits I mentioned.

Also make sure to clean the walls well before starting. Dirtex is a great wall cleaner for everyday dirt and grime. Use TSP if you have grease and oils such as in a kitchen or bathroom.

Also, if you need multiple cans, make sure to “box in” the paint — mix them all together in a large bucket. There could be small coloration differences that would show up when you move to the next can.
RE: Paint and primer in one is a misnomer  
Eman11 : 6/29/2018 4:00 pm : link
In comment 14002633 Jim in Fairfax said:
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It doesn’t actually have “primer” in the paint. What it has is a high density of color blocking solids, which should allow fewer coats. It doesn’t do the other things primers do: seal stains, adhere extremely well, and provide a high adhesion surface.

If your walls are clean and free of anything that needs sealing, you could probably get away with two coats of high quality paint. But personally, I’d prime. It’s a lot cheaper than paint and has the other benefits I mentioned.

Also make sure to clean the walls well before starting. Dirtex is a great wall cleaner for everyday dirt and grime. Use TSP if you have grease and oils such as in a kitchen or bathroom.

Also, if you need multiple cans, make sure to “box in” the paint — mix them all together in a large bucket. There could be small coloration differences that would show up when you move to the next can.


Great advice and I second all your recommendations. If I could add one thing it would be have them tint the white primer a touch. They could get it pretty close to the finish color if your going with a light beige. Might get away with one coat of each that way.
related question  
giants#1 : 6/29/2018 4:16 pm : link
Is Benjamin Moore worth the price over the better Home Depot/Lowe's brands (e.g. top of the line Behr)?
RE: related question  
Eman11 : 6/29/2018 4:30 pm : link
In comment 14002651 giants#1 said:
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Is Benjamin Moore worth the price over the better Home Depot/Lowe's brands (e.g. top of the line Behr)?


I think so and BM is all I use in my home. It's also the only interior paint the really good custom painters I do work for use.

That said, Home Depot's newer Marquis paint is a really thick paint and if you're not into or good at painting if might give you some trouble. The previous top of the line Behr paint is pretty good so if money is a factor you should be ok with that.

I wouldn't use any of the other grades or brands Home Depot/ Lowes sells though. Just my .02
RE: related question  
Jim in Fairfax : 6/29/2018 4:32 pm : link
In comment 14002651 giants#1 said:
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Is Benjamin Moore worth the price over the better Home Depot/Lowe's brands (e.g. top of the line Behr)?


While I know many disagree, in my opinion: no.

Professional painters prefer BM for a few reasons:

1) Historically, BM was far superior. Behr in particular has caught up, but most pros are set in their ways. Moore paint is great, but not worth the significant premium IMO.

2) The big box stores paint departments don’t cater to the professionals needs the way independent BM dealers do.

3) Every paint is different in the way it applies, dries, etc. They have years of experience in the ways BM performs and don’t want to switch.

Those are good reasons for pros not to use it, but don’t really apply to homeowners.
Deep reds are one of the  
section125 : 6/29/2018 7:40 pm : link
harder colors to cover up. Use a tinted primer.
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