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Big Rick in FL : 6/30/2018 8:47 am
Here are the starting lineups for France & Argentina. Shocked that Aguero, Dybala & Higuian are all on the bench. Even more shocked that Di Maria is starting since he's had a terrible World Cup.

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France XI: Lloris, Pavard, Varane, Umtiti, L. Hernandez, Kanté, Pogba, Matuidi, Mbappé, Griezmann, Giroud.

Argentina XI: Armani, Mercado, Otamendi, Rojo, Tagliafico, Mascherano, Enzo Pérez, Banega, Pavón, Messi, Di María.
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RE: I’m a Chelsea supporter  
Big Rick in FL : 6/30/2018 10:54 am : link
In comment 14003000 Kyle in NY said:
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with Courtois, he’s an excellent shot stopper but he’s very poor with the ball at his feet and hasn’t really improved at all in this regard. Of course if it’s going to be one or the other, you’d prefer the shot stopper. But Chelsea just isn’t able to build attacks from the back consistently.

It’s close between him and Alisson. Close enough where if Chelsea can sell Courtois, line up Alisson, and turn a profit, they should absolutely do it. Courtois’ heart seems to be in Madrid anyway


Well that's the thing. Alisson is supposedly going to fetch a higher transfer fee. By a good margin. I guess that's because Courtois isn't going to renew and they don't want him to leave on a free.

Chelsea's entire season was a disaster so I can't blame one player. I was just watching some Chelsea videos last night and Courtois was under seige constantly.

They had the same number of clean sheets. Courtois conceded 4 more goals. Courtois pass accuracy was 7 points lower, but his average distrubition length was longer.

Like I said Alisson is very very good. I like him a lot, but to me one season in Serie A doesn't compare to 7 in the PL & La Liga. Thanks for your input guys!!
RE: Argentina is a mess  
Big Rick in FL : 6/30/2018 10:59 am : link
In comment 14003023 Go Terps said:
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They don't know what they're doing game to game. That this is even close doesn't reflect well on France.



Yes Argentina doesn't look good. France has looked better, but they can't finish their chances. I don't think Benzema is a top Striker anymore, but he's a better player overall then Giroud. His link up play and ability to start a counter would really be helping France right now.
Wow Argentina take the lead  
Big Rick in FL : 6/30/2018 11:13 am : link
I'm shocked. France hasn't looked good since they allowed the first goal. Hasn't that been a knock on them? That they are a mentally weak team.
WOWWWWW  
Big Rick in FL : 6/30/2018 11:16 am : link
Gorgeous through ball and some how it comes out to the RB and he scored a screamer. Wow!!!
Pivard  
Kyle in NY : 6/30/2018 11:17 am : link
just one upped Nacho for incredible volleyed goals from a RB. Wow
That's as good as it gets....  
rebel yell : 6/30/2018 11:19 am : link
what a strike!
RE: RE: I’m a Chelsea supporter  
Kyle in NY : 6/30/2018 11:20 am : link
In comment 14003024 Big Rick in FL said:
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In comment 14003000 Kyle in NY said:


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with Courtois, he’s an excellent shot stopper but he’s very poor with the ball at his feet and hasn’t really improved at all in this regard. Of course if it’s going to be one or the other, you’d prefer the shot stopper. But Chelsea just isn’t able to build attacks from the back consistently.

It’s close between him and Alisson. Close enough where if Chelsea can sell Courtois, line up Alisson, and turn a profit, they should absolutely do it. Courtois’ heart seems to be in Madrid anyway



Well that's the thing. Alisson is supposedly going to fetch a higher transfer fee. By a good margin. I guess that's because Courtois isn't going to renew and they don't want him to leave on a free.

Chelsea's entire season was a disaster so I can't blame one player. I was just watching some Chelsea videos last night and Courtois was under seige constantly.

They had the same number of clean sheets. Courtois conceded 4 more goals. Courtois pass accuracy was 7 points lower, but his average distrubition length was longer.

Like I said Alisson is very very good. I like him a lot, but to me one season in Serie A doesn't compare to 7 in the PL & La Liga. Thanks for your input guys!!


He was not under siege constantly. Chelsea couldn’t score this season
Mbappe  
Big Rick in FL : 6/30/2018 11:22 am : link
What a fucking stud. Can't believe he's only 19. Just puts France ahead.
Mbappe is a star  
Kyle in NY : 6/30/2018 11:22 am : link
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Argentina back line giving USMNT's  
ColHowPepper : 6/30/2018 11:23 am : link
a run for its money, disorganized and out of shape/position
Rick, just curious  
Kyle in NY : 6/30/2018 11:23 am : link
which Courtois games were you watching?
Argentina  
rebel yell : 6/30/2018 11:24 am : link
coming unglued.
This is just overwhelming talent  
Kyle in NY : 6/30/2018 11:26 am : link
Poor Messi
Wow  
Big Rick in FL : 6/30/2018 11:27 am : link
Mbappe again. God that kid is good. Will be the best player in the World.
PSG  
Kyle in NY : 6/30/2018 11:30 am : link
should cash in on Neymar, buy 3-4 players with the money, and build everything around Mbappe. He’s 19. That’s nuts
Kyle  
Big Rick in FL : 6/30/2018 11:40 am : link
Chelsea allowed the 2nd most shots and shots on target of the top 6 teams. Behind United. I was watching mostly champions League games.

Both Roma games. The Barca 2nd leg and the 2nd Watford game. I forget the numbers, but it was like 60 shots total and 35 on target. I know it was a lot. So I can't speak on the entire season. Just the handful of games I watched the last few days.
Kanté  
ColHowPepper : 6/30/2018 11:43 am : link
a deft but critical mark there to avert danger, he's been stellar; I believe it was his ball from just outside his own PA to Pogba (?) at half way line that set up Mbappe's second goal
RE: PSG  
Big Rick in FL : 6/30/2018 11:44 am : link
In comment 14003055 Kyle in NY said:
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should cash in on Neymar, buy 3-4 players with the money, and build everything around Mbappe. He’s 19. That’s nuts


They don't even need to sell Neymar lol they can keep him and buy whoever they want without repercussions. Somehow they didn't breach Financial fair play after spending 400 million on 2 players. They've spent 556 million the last 3 transfer windows (Including this year that hasn't really started) while only making like 155 million in sales.
RE: Kanté  
Big Rick in FL : 6/30/2018 11:46 am : link
In comment 14003061 ColHowPepper said:
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a deft but critical mark there to avert danger, he's been stellar; I believe it was his ball from just outside his own PA to Pogba (?) at half way line that set up Mbappe's second goal


One of my favorite non Madrid players. Can't believe Leicester sold him for so cheap. Probably the best DM in the World. Definitely top 3.
RE: Kanté  
Kyle in NY : 6/30/2018 11:54 am : link
In comment 14003061 ColHowPepper said:
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a deft but critical mark there to avert danger, he's been stellar; I believe it was his ball from just outside his own PA to Pogba (?) at half way line that set up Mbappe's second goal


Sure was. He’s the best ball winner in the world IMO and he’s improving his passing. I know I’m like a broken record but he’s really fantastic.

Otamendi is an absolute clown. His team has a chance to equalize and kicking the ball at the other team
Rough and tumble game.  
section125 : 6/30/2018 11:56 am : link
Entertaining. France very fast and quick. Not sure they can win it all this time. Argentina looked like a team on its last leg,
Messi would be within his rights to torch the Argentina FA  
Go Terps : 6/30/2018 11:58 am : link
Going to a World Cup in this state was a joke. Mascherano in midfield, different formations every game...give me a fucking break.
Argentina need to get their act together  
Kyle in NY : 6/30/2018 12:00 pm : link
They’ve been a clown show in the leadership positions of their federation for a while and got lucky to even qualify for the World Cup

If they don’t get it together I could see Messi retiring from international duties. And that’d be a damn shame
The talent on France is insane  
Big Rick in FL : 6/30/2018 12:01 pm : link
We saw the starters today, but then they have Nabil Fekir, Areola, Lemar, Dembele, Benjamin Mendy, N'Zonzi, Tolisso, Thauvin & Sidibe on the bench. Anthony Martial didn't even make the World Cup squad. Good lord. They are stacked.
France & Uruguay  
Big Rick in FL : 6/30/2018 12:09 pm : link
Should be a damn good game. Excited to see that one.
deja vu  
Vanzetti : 6/30/2018 12:10 pm : link
looking like 1998 all over again.

Merci Le Bleu, Merci Le Bleu
RE: France & Uruguay  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 6/30/2018 12:10 pm : link
In comment 14003084 Big Rick in FL said:
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Should be a damn good game. Excited to see that one.


do not jinx it Rick or I will find you.
Viva Les Bleus  
GiantsUA : 6/30/2018 12:18 pm : link
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to the point of Argentina F.A. disarray  
ColHowPepper : 6/30/2018 12:47 pm : link
how does Sampaoli, or whoever called the shots for this WC, have Agüero sitting on the bench, coming in seemingly as an afterthought throughout Group play? He had almost immediate impact this afternoon. He's one of the most effective strikers/wings in the world.

Not fun for their fans. US soccer fans know how it feels, we're sitting home, thank you USSF.
BHE  
Big Rick in FL : 6/30/2018 12:56 pm : link
Who you rooting for? Uruguay I assume?

Mascherano retired from international football.
...  
ColHowPepper : 6/30/2018 1:10 pm : link
got fireworks OEM duties for my town and then a party to watch 'em, so I'll miss being with you boys for Portugal-Uruguay. Make sure it's a corker.
RE: ...  
Big Rick in FL : 6/30/2018 1:53 pm : link
In comment 14003128 ColHowPepper said:
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got fireworks OEM duties for my town and then a party to watch 'em, so I'll miss being with you boys for Portugal-Uruguay. Make sure it's a corker.


It's probably going to be miserable lol like 1 nil. Hopefully I'm wrong though.
What a combination  
rebel yell : 6/30/2018 2:09 pm : link
and a finish on that header. Beautiful.
Cavani  
Big Rick in FL : 6/30/2018 2:10 pm : link
Going to bully Fonte. Horrible matchup for Portugal.
RE: to the point of Argentina F.A. disarray  
Deejboy : 6/30/2018 3:07 pm : link
In comment 14003112 ColHowPepper said:
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how does Sampaoli, or whoever called the shots for this WC, have Agüero sitting on the bench, coming in seemingly as an afterthought throughout Group play? He had almost immediate impact this afternoon. He's one of the most effective strikers/wings in the world.

Not fun for their fans. US soccer fans know how it feels, we're sitting home, thank you USSF.


We are sitting home cause our players aren't very good. Even if we made we would be Panama or Costa Rica. You see how stacked countries like France and Argentina are? We aren't in the same planet. Want to make the U.S. a soccer power? Pour a crap load of money into MLS. You see Americans sitting around saying they are Chelsea supporters or Man City or whatever. Foreign clubs that play half a world away. That is not going to get the best U.S. kids to play soccer. But if American cities have among the best clubs in the world like we have in every other sports league, then you will see a wave of top flight U.S. talent. Until then we will be light years from everyone else.

And before people say England has the best soccer league in the world and not the best national team, well England has 50 million people and is the size of Alabama. The U.S. has 330 million. If the U.S. had the best soccer league in the world, the majority of top players would be American.
RE: RE: to the point of Argentina F.A. disarray  
section125 : 6/30/2018 3:19 pm : link
In comment 14003152 Deejboy said:
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And before people say England has the best soccer league in the world and not the best national team, well England has 50 million people and is the size of Alabama. The U.S. has 330 million. If the U.S. had the best soccer league in the world, the majority of top players would be American.


EPL also attracts players from around the world and that is why the EPL is one of the best Leagues in the world, not because of home grown talent.
Cavani is a man in form  
Go Terps : 6/30/2018 3:24 pm : link
What a beautiful goal. Seen Thierry Henry score that same goal in person several times.
Gorgeous  
AcidTest : 6/30/2018 3:37 pm : link
goal by Cavani.
Uruguay isn't going far  
giantBCP : 6/30/2018 3:56 pm : link
if Cavani is out injured.
Cavani is a monster  
Big Rick in FL : 6/30/2018 3:57 pm : link
That injury has to worry Uruguay though. He asked for the switch immediately. Worst officiated game in the World Cup on both sides. That ref shouldn't get another game.
Exciting match but  
rebel yell : 6/30/2018 3:58 pm : link
brutal reff'ing. Regardless, Uruguay deserve the win.
CAVANI  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 6/30/2018 4:02 pm : link
Very rarely am I thrilled for one individual player, but I am for this guy. Now let's just hope he can make the next game.
Not really rooting for anybody  
Gman11 : 6/30/2018 4:07 pm : link
but it's hard to say good things about Suarez. I hate it when a guy with his talent dives more than Greg Louganis. Well, at least he hasn't bitten anybody yet.
How many times a game  
SimpleMan : 6/30/2018 4:20 pm : link
can Suarez pretend he got shot by a sniper from 200 yards away? His over-dramatic flopping and whining is tough to root for. Absolute douche.
Why can't the..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/30/2018 4:39 pm : link
ref give Suarez a card for grabbing his head when he isn't even hit there?

Several times in this Cup dives aren't just tolerated, they are rewarded. At least the ref didn't book anyone on Suarez's dives, but he got at least one free kick for it. Way too often a guy goes down grabbing a body part that wasn't even touched, often even forcing medical personnel to come out and treat them and they "earn" a free kick for it.

I get that it is gamesmanship, but it fucking sucks and every 4 years, it is one of the reasons people continue to have misconceptions about soccer.
I hate Suarez  
Big Rick in FL : 6/30/2018 4:44 pm : link
I obviously don't root for Messi because he plays for my teams biggest rival. I don't hate him though.

I fucking hate Suarez. Dude is on his back more then a crackhead prostitute. Holy shit he's the worst. People who get shot don't hit the ground like that.

Really excited to see the France & Uruguay game. Should be a good one.

Also really excited to see my favorite player play tomorrow. Lukita should be up for player of the tournament as of right now. He's just been awesome for Croatia. Just as he always is for Madrid.

I forgot who said it, but some former player said he thinks Christian Eriksen is better then Modric 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
FMIC  
Gman11 : 6/30/2018 4:46 pm : link
I feel exactly the same way. They should review games afterward and when they find people diving, suspend them for the next game. They can add more severe penalties for constant offenders.

Players acting like they have multiple broken bones when they are barely touched gives the game a bad name.
RE: FMIC  
Big Rick in FL : 6/30/2018 5:10 pm : link
In comment 14003179 Gman11 said:
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I feel exactly the same way. They should review games afterward and when they find people diving, suspend them for the next game. They can add more severe penalties for constant offenders.

Players acting like they have multiple broken bones when they are barely touched gives the game a bad name.


Suarez would only play half the season. He'd be suspended every other game.
RE: RE: FMIC  
section125 : 6/30/2018 5:43 pm : link
In comment 14003187 Big Rick in FL said:
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In comment 14003179 Gman11 said:


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I feel exactly the same way. They should review games afterward and when they find people diving, suspend them for the next game. They can add more severe penalties for constant offenders.

Players acting like they have multiple broken bones when they are barely touched gives the game a bad name.



Suarez would only play half the season. He'd be suspended every other game.


Well, at least he didn't bite anyone....
RE: RE: ...  
ColHowPepper : 7/1/2018 9:51 am : link
In comment 14003143 Big Rick in FL said:
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In comment 14003128 ColHowPepper said:
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got fireworks OEM duties for my town and then a party to watch 'em, so I'll miss being with you boys for Portugal-Uruguay. Make sure it's a corker. ////
It's probably going to be miserable lol like 1 nil. Hopefully I'm wrong though.
Just about done watching recording, to me it was actually a very good, competitive, well played match. I think Portugal played its most appealing soccer in quite some time, certainly to my eye more compelling than the Euros.

Interesting on Pepe's header: both Godin (and I didn't catch the other Uruguan defender) converged on Ronaldo, leaving Pepe unmarked and he buried it.

Laxalt, the Uruguan LOB caught my eye: very active, strong, tough, tenacious, and rarely out of position, and when the opportunity was there, effective on runs. He's a keeper.

Rick, I think Croatia goes through to the quarters, dunno if Spain can lift its game.
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