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Anakim : 6/30/2018 10:11 am
Sounds like today's the day he's going to commit to signing somewhere. Teams are expected to be notified today where he will sign, with the Islanders getting the first call.
I'll say this  
Bones : 6/30/2018 10:18 am : link
The man can keep a secret. I thought Tampa Bay, then Isles, then Toronto, now San Jose. Just hurry up already.
"look at me"  
Diversify yo bonds : 6/30/2018 10:20 am : link
Not like there's a giant nhl thread.

As posted Thursday night, he's gone unless the Isles pay stupid money
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Anakim : 6/30/2018 10:35 am : link
In comment 14002999 Diversify yo bonds said:
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Not like there's a giant nhl thread.

As posted Thursday night, he's gone unless the Isles pay stupid money


You don't think it warrants its own thread?
28 at season start  
old man : 6/30/2018 10:37 am : link
Seems he's been around forever.
He can go to LA and join Kovalchuck and Kopitar(Gaborik still there?); Looks like they are reloading.
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pganut : 6/30/2018 11:12 am : link
In comment 14003011 Anakim said:
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Not like there's a giant nhl thread.

As posted Thursday night, he's gone unless the Isles pay stupid money



You don't think it warrants its own thread?
No. NYR fans here don't typically acknowledge the Isles existence (or at least don't want to acknowledge) so you, as a Rangers fan, creating a separate thread about an Islander feels like a precursor to an excuse for some schadenfreude on your end should he not resign. Feels disingenuous, agenda-driven. Optically. All us diehards know what's at stake here without its own thread.
pga took a long break  
bigbluehoya : 6/30/2018 11:17 am : link
And now hes back, spitting fire and taking no bullshit. Love it.
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Anakim : 6/30/2018 11:23 am : link
In comment 14003034 pganut said:
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In comment 14002999 Diversify yo bonds said:


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Not like there's a giant nhl thread.

As posted Thursday night, he's gone unless the Isles pay stupid money



You don't think it warrants its own thread?

No. NYR fans here don't typically acknowledge the Isles existence (or at least don't want to acknowledge) so you, as a Rangers fan, creating a separate thread about an Islander feels like a precursor to an excuse for some schadenfreude on your end should he not resign. Feels disingenuous, agenda-driven. Optically. All us diehards know what's at stake here without its own thread.



Obviously I want him to sign elsewhere as a Rangers fan, but I'm sorry, I don't agree that it doesn't warrant its own thread. Ties to the Islanders aside, Tavares is the biggest free agent on the market. In fact, his impending signing to we know not where is holding up free agency and the trade market. It's the first domino that needs to fall.

And BTW, disingenuous? I have no idea where Tavares is going. For all I know he could re-sign.
If he leaves  
KWhite2250 : 6/30/2018 11:25 am : link
Fuck him....barzal will be better
please not San Jose  
gtt350 : 6/30/2018 11:25 am : link
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As someone looking to be an attorney  
pganut : 6/30/2018 11:26 am : link
I sure hope you have the ability to understand dissenting opinions.

And I also think you're intelligent enough to know this is a bit of an emotionally charged time for my contingent here. Tread carefully.
RE: As someone looking to be an attorney  
Anakim : 6/30/2018 11:27 am : link
In comment 14003049 pganut said:
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I sure hope you have the ability to understand dissenting opinions.

And I also think you're intelligent enough to know this is a bit of an emotionally charged time for my contingent here. Tread carefully.



Yes, I understand your opinion. And yes, I know it is an emotionally charged time for Islanders fans. Did I say or do anything to offend or provoke you? It's not like I'm going to rub it in your face if he signs elsewhere.
He needs to  
Carl in CT : 6/30/2018 11:40 am : link
Move on.
RE: If he leaves  
BrettNYG10 : 6/30/2018 11:45 am : link
In comment 14003047 KWhite2250 said:
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Fuck him....barzal will be better


I think Tavares is better, but Barzal is more fun to watch. He's going to be a nightmare to play against.
Hey, hoya  
pganut : 6/30/2018 11:51 am : link
Good to see you, bud.

Hoping for a happy NYI ending here, but after 30 or so years of endless shit sandwiches, we are prepared for Murphy's Law to rear its head again. I've been steadfast around him resigning from the get go, but ain't nothing in life guaranteed. Whatever happens, the sun will rise and set tomorrow. In Lou we trust.
I still think he comes back to Isles...  
marbles : 6/30/2018 11:52 am : link
But if not, then "Lose for Hughes."

Anak..  
Sean : 6/30/2018 11:55 am : link
Had no idea you were a hockey fan. Thought you were strictly NYG/NYK.
RE: Anak..  
Anakim : 6/30/2018 11:57 am : link
In comment 14003070 Sean said:
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Had no idea you were a hockey fan. Thought you were strictly NYG/NYK.


Are you being facetious?
RE: Hey, hoya  
bigbluehoya : 6/30/2018 12:01 pm : link
In comment 14003067 pganut said:
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Good to see you, bud.

Hoping for a happy NYI ending here, but after 30 or so years of endless shit sandwiches, we are prepared for Murphy's Law to rear its head again. I've been steadfast around him resigning from the get go, but ain't nothing in life guaranteed. Whatever happens, the sun will rise and set tomorrow. In Lou we trust.


Yep. I wont share with you what Im hoping for, but I dont have any intentions of rubbing your nose in it regardless of the outcome. If he does decide to leave, once the sentimental aspect wears off, the Isles are a team with a couple of really nice pieces and a ton of financial flexibility...surely a little further away from contending than before, but really not in a bad situation.

.....  
BrettNYG10 : 6/30/2018 12:35 pm : link
If Tavares re-signs, they should everything they can to get Karlsson. Three firsts, Wahlstrom or some other prospect.
I dont disagree  
pganut : 6/30/2018 12:44 pm : link
Id even do Nelson, Bellows and/or Ho-Sang, a d prospect not named Toews or Dobson and a first (or more) for EK.
*  
pganut : 6/30/2018 12:45 pm : link
With the caveat Karlsson signs a LTC.
Karlsson's ankle is a time bomb  
Diversify yo bonds : 6/30/2018 12:53 pm : link
Achilles then the surgery that removed a significant amount of bone. He will be late career forsberg shortly. Still great but who knows how many games he can play.

Furthermore, paying any dman into their mid thirties is a losing proposition. These guys are aging out faster than ever before. Every fanbase has a once good dman turned albatross. 32 is the new 37 in the current nhl. Elc dmen are the way to go.
.....  
BrettNYG10 : 6/30/2018 1:00 pm : link
I think he's far and away the best dman in the league. Acquiring him turns the Islanders into Cup contenders with Tavares.

I agree with Diversify generally on dmen (I wouldn't be looking to sign McDonagh next year), but do think Karlsson is an exception.
The longer this goes on  
Metnut : 6/30/2018 4:59 pm : link
the less optimistic I get.
Ok  
steviej : 6/30/2018 5:26 pm : link
This is fuckin bullshit JT r u in or it out ??
WTF  
steviej : 6/30/2018 5:28 pm : link
JD IS WAITING !!
Dean Blundell is reporting that its  
Carl in CT : 6/30/2018 8:54 pm : link
Toronto. No idea other than that.
Located at  
Carl in CT : 6/30/2018 8:57 pm : link
@itsdeanblundell
RE: RE: Anak..  
Sean : 7/1/2018 12:15 am : link
In comment 14003072 Anakim said:
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Had no idea you were a hockey fan. Thought you were strictly NYG/NYK.



Are you being facetious?


No. 100% serious.
RE: RE: RE: Anak..  
Anakim : 7/1/2018 12:17 am : link
In comment 14003318 Sean said:
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Had no idea you were a hockey fan. Thought you were strictly NYG/NYK.



Are you being facetious?



No. 100% serious.


I've been participating in Rangers threads since I've joined BBI in 2007. The Rangers and the NHL have always been my #2 behind the Football Giants and the NFL.
Have to think if he made it this far without resigning  
BlueHurricane : 7/1/2018 7:27 am : link
He is leaving. The leverage of the extra year was what I thought would keep him. Call me a pessimist but I feel another nut punch coming.
RE: Have to think if he made it this far without resigning  
KWhite2250 : 7/1/2018 7:48 am : link
In comment 14003346 BlueHurricane said:
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He is leaving. The leverage of the extra year was what I thought would keep him. Call me a pessimist but I feel another nut punch coming.


Youre an islander fan...you shouldnt expect any less. In the rnd when he leaves, he will be as big a fraud as John Spano. This organization bent over backwards nonstop for him. JT was the captain of this country club. He was pissed off when they traded his buddy Moulson and from that point on, none of his buddies was ever traded. He asked to not be traded this season at deadline. He has been a part of the problem.

Barzal will play much harder in his D zone and provide just as much offense. Sign a center that can win faceoffs and be good defensively. Find a capable goalie and bring back de haan. And hopefully a better system will help. We know we arent going to win a cup anytime soon but it will be nice to have a gm that will at least try to change it up and a coach that isnt clueless. Weight was actually MUCH worse than Cappy.
Hes going home to Toronto  
Sammo85 : 7/1/2018 7:56 am : link
I think his girlfriend/wife is from Ontario and is rumored to be pushing him hard to leave. There were rumors of TB or SJ being preferable for locale and such.

If he helps push the Leafs over the top and win it all he becomes a hometown hero. I think theres that appeal for him too. To be a guy who ends the Drought.

As a Devils fans I sympathize with the Isles. Holik, Niedermayer, Gomez, Parise. Elias was the only one of the big core guys who willingly stayed. Its why drafting well continuously is so important.
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Danny Kanell : 7/1/2018 8:53 am : link
Shocked that Anak started this thread. Absolutely shocked.
I'm sorry, guys  
Anakim : 7/1/2018 12:39 pm : link
Arthur Staple

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Confirmed: the #Isles are out of the running for John Tavares.
RE: I'm sorry, guys  
Anakim : 7/1/2018 12:52 pm : link
In comment 14003481 Anakim said:
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Arthur Staple

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Confirmed: the #Isles are out of the running for John Tavares.



John Shannon

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As @StapeAthletic reported, NYI out on Tavares...kept hearing non-financial issues became factors...Arenas (splitting seasons), Goaltending,etc.
He signed with the Maple Leafs  
Anakim : 7/1/2018 12:57 pm : link
SiriusXM NHL Network

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BREAKING: John Tavares has agreed to terms with the Toronto Maple Leafs.
RE: He signed with the Maple Leafs  
Jay in Toronto : 7/1/2018 12:58 pm : link
In comment 14003515 Anakim said:
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SiriusXM NHL Network

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BREAKING: John Tavares has agreed to terms with the Toronto Maple Leafs.


Do the Leafs have enough cap space? Do they need to dump a contract?
I sure hope  
Jay in Toronto : 7/1/2018 12:59 pm : link
Rangers do as well as the LEafs have done in a rebuild -- even without Mathews.
He is a leaf  
KWhite2250 : 7/1/2018 1:03 pm : link
7 yrs
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RE: RE: He signed with the Maple Leafs  
Kyle in NY : 7/1/2018 1:03 pm : link
In comment 14003520 Jay in Toronto said:
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SiriusXM NHL Network

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@SiriusXMNHL

BREAKING: John Tavares has agreed to terms with the Toronto Maple Leafs.



Do the Leafs have enough cap space? Do they need to dump a contract?


Rangers should help if necessary
Glad to get him out of the division  
NYerInMA : 7/1/2018 1:09 pm : link
Western Conference would've been even better, but this is good too!
I hope Toronto never wins a Stanley Cup with him  
Mike in NY : 7/1/2018 1:15 pm : link
Islanders catered to every desire of JT and he still fucked them over
Dont blame him at all  
bxgiants4 : 7/1/2018 1:15 pm : link
Going home to play vs staying and being a nomad on a 2nd tier team
Im not a big hockey guy..  
Sean : 7/1/2018 1:19 pm : link
and this will come across shitty, but Ill say it. The Islanders are a rinky dink franchise which has absolute zero energy. I went to an Isles-Flyers game at Barclays and the place was empty & the fans who were there were Flyer fans.

They generate absolutely no buzz. A no brainer for JT.
They're probably already planning the parade in Toronto  
dpinzow : 7/1/2018 1:37 pm : link
Auston Matthews and Tavares as C1 and C2 (or vice versa)? Knowing the Toronto media they have already said Stanley Cup or bust
RE: I sure hope  
Jay in Toronto : 7/1/2018 1:42 pm : link
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Rangers do as well as the LEafs have done in a rebuild -- even without Mathews.


My thought exactly
RE: Im not a big hockey guy..  
Mike from Ohio : 7/1/2018 3:18 pm : link
In comment 14003545 Sean said:
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and this will come across shitty, but Ill say it. The Islanders are a rinky dink franchise which has absolute zero energy. I went to an Isles-Flyers game at Barclays and the place was empty & the fans who were there were Flyer fans.

They generate absolutely no buzz. A no brainer for JT.


Awesome hot take! This may come across badly, but you seem slow and simple minded. Your posts read like they were written by a 9 year old. Are you in Anal hanging out in his basement playing tummy sticks?
Please ignore my comment  
Mike from Ohio : 7/1/2018 3:44 pm : link
Didn't mean to go low road. Bad day with Tavares leaving. Not sure why some people post what they do but I am sure they have their reasons.

Apologies to Anak (not Anal) and Sean.
RE: RE: I sure hope  
pjcas18 : 7/1/2018 3:49 pm : link
In comment 14003569 Jay in Toronto said:
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Rangers do as well as the LEafs have done in a rebuild -- even without Mathews.



My thought exactly


Did you just agree with your own post? LOL.

The Leafs obviously had the good fortune of nailing 3 consecutive top 10 picks, centers, in Nylander, Marner, and #1 overall Matthews.

Add in Morgan Reilly another top 5 pick and it's not easy to duplicate that without some good fortune.

I like Anderson, Chytil, and Kravstov, but none as as sure things as the Leafs higher picks.

It could turn out just as well, but the Leafs were really bad for a really long time to rebuild.
RE: Please ignore my comment  
Sean : 7/1/2018 3:50 pm : link
In comment 14003645 Mike from Ohio said:
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Didn't mean to go low road. Bad day with Tavares leaving. Not sure why some people post what they do but I am sure they have their reasons.

Apologies to Anak (not Anal) and Sean.


Most of my family are Isles fans. You dont need to apologize because I totally get the emotion rooting for them. But I wonder what is so hard about watching them play at Barclays. I wonder why no one went to the Nassau Coliseum. I hope the new stadium pans out and so does Lou Lamoriello, but the franchise has generated absolutely zero buzz.
RE: RE: Please ignore my comment  
Mike from Ohio : 7/1/2018 4:12 pm : link
In comment 14003648 Sean said:
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Didn't mean to go low road. Bad day with Tavares leaving. Not sure why some people post what they do but I am sure they have their reasons.

Apologies to Anak (not Anal) and Sean.



Most of my family are Isles fans. You dont need to apologize because I totally get the emotion rooting for them. But I wonder what is so hard about watching them play at Barclays. I wonder why no one went to the Nassau Coliseum. I hope the new stadium pans out and so does Lou Lamoriello, but the franchise has generated absolutely zero buzz.


It's like anything else. If you don't win, fans don't show up. When the Giants don't win the stadium fills with the other teams' fans. Growing up in the 80s in NY it was easy to forget the Rangers were a local team because nobody wore jerseys or talked about them. The Islanders have not been competitive for a long time. Fans don't spend money to watch their favorite team lose.

It felt like this team was turning a corner this offseason, and this sets that back quite a bit. In the long run it may work out, but for a fanbase that has watched the team rebuild for 20 years, the thought of another 2-3 years of rebuilding is disappointing to say the least.
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