NFT: Yankees Game Thread - Yankees vs. Red Sox - Gray

against one of the top pitchers in baseball is very interesting. It’s his biggest test yet.

20+ first inning for Gray means the bullpen is likely pitching 4+ today.

Hope we don't lose this one in the first inning.

Sonny's a chump. No guts.

In comment 14003208 bceagle05 said:

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Sonny's a chump. No guts.

Oh please we can score 4, don’t care if it’s Sale. But Gray is complete trash

is a terrible pitcher. I've seen enough. I've never seen a guy somehow get praised for mediocre starts. He fucking sucks

Get this loser off the roster now.

No guts.

This team desperately needs another big time starter for the playoffs. Gray should not even start a playoff game.

And these short porches really suck ass sometimes. Devers was shocked that ball went out. That's on Gray though. None on with two outs and it turns into this horse shit. He needs to fuck off.

but I almost hope Boone keeps Gray in regardless of how bad he is. Don’t waste the pen right now, make him sleep in his shit. Can’t wait until he’s off the team.

Three guys in a row with 2 strikes and he could not get them out.

He fucking sucks.

need one. It would be helpful, but they aren't in desperate need.

How anyone can believe he can pitch in big games?

He throws it right over the plate.

Thanks Sonny!

is really interesting. Does not make sense, but WTF.

Would they pitch Gray against this team? They own him it’s a fact german or Losigna would of done a better job

a nervous Nelly. He won't be here long.

In comment 14003222 Jim in Tampa said:

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He throws it right over the plate. Thanks Sonny!

That looked belt high, but off the plate by quite a bit.

In comment 14003224 nygnyy274 said:

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Would they pitch Gray against this team? They own him it’s a fact german or Losigna would of done a better job

Thinking the same thing

and find out what he can do, or if he turned the corner, then you aren’t doing your job as a manager/GM. We all think he sucks but he’s on the team and we need to know what we’ve got before the deadline and playoffs. Losing the game sucks, but there are positives that can come out of it.

is high fast balls. He loves them and they are very hard to hit.

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of the rotation. He's horrendous.

it was Gary Sanchez' fault Sonny Gray sucked. (When was that... 2 months ago?)

Kaprelian hasn't pitched in 2 years.
Mateo has a 600 OPS in the Pacific Coast League.
Sonny Gray wasn't even worth Dustin Fowler by himself.

I have yet to see him pitch a good game. I’m done watching that experiment. Hope they can trade him in a package for even a short term vet that can at least provide 5 innings. At this point gray can’t even do that. If they are stuck with him use him to start alternating starts b/w German and Loaisiga cause they will need those guys this season.

I am not sure if Gray does not have an out pitch or Gray has no confidence in what could be several out pitches.

just to see Gray get booed off the mound.

and never start another one when Gray pitches

Pitcher with Oakland....
Not sure what happened to him but he hasn't been close to that with the Yankees.

Not bad.

Gosh, this guy sucks.

In comment 14003253 The Natural said:

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Pitcher with Oakland.... Not sure what happened to him but he hasn't been close to that with the Yankees.

Yeah. Very strange. Sad part is when they do get rid of him and he goes to another team he will be fine. Ed Whitson II.

Eclipsed pavano in awfulness. Never thought I'd see that .

Reminds me of Jeff Weaver

He just looks like the type of player that any handle pressure nor an audience. Maybe some small market team will take him, hope we get anything serviceable back in return. At his point I don’t care he is a complete waste of a roster spot.

He can’t keep getting starts. Go somewhere else to figure it out.

In comment 14003250 Sec 103 said:

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and never start another one when Gray pitches

I took one for the team here. No one wanted to touch Grays start myself included...

In comment 14003248 Bill2 said:

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I am not sure if Gray does not have an out pitch or Gray has no confidence in what could be several out pitches.

It didn't appear to matter what Romine called, and Gray wasn't waving him off, so I'd guess he just doesn't have a go to pitch.

Good job by Warren.

If he continues to spit the bit, I think the Yanks need to find him a new home and turn inward. One of the big problems the Yanks have run into with SP in recent years is that the guys they bring in as FA or in trades really have not been able to cut it. I think CC was the last real success they had in that area.

My suggestion would be to follow the route that they HAVE been successful with- using their OWN SP. Montgomery saved them last year. German has been mostly good this season. Loaisiga has flashed ability, though he probably needs to go back to the minors and work on building IP for next year.

I think if Gray can't figure it out, it is time to give Sheffield a shot. His upside is huge and he really seems to be on a roll in AAA.

I am now firmly in the "don't make a trade for a SP" camp- the track record just isn't good there.

Sonny Gray has a worse Yankee Stadium ERA thru 13 starts than:

- Carl Pavano
- Jaret Wright
- Jeff Weaver
- Hideki Irabu

Just for reference... Sonny Gray's YS ERA is also worse than Kei Igawa's (only 7 starts).

What a shitshow.

There's some company you don't want to be in.

Checking in late here and just looked at the box score - cue the Surfaris, let's hear some "Wipe Out" ...

a MRI.


Just fuckin' wonderful.

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Bryan Hoch “I feel like we’re the best team in baseball four out of five days, and then I go out and do that. It just sucks.” - Sonny Gray

Now do something about it.

...experiment, debacle, mess-up (or whatever else you want to call it) was finally over.

I'm pretty sure we have half a dozen minor league pitchers who could perform just as well.

Can't we just cut him?

In comment 14003290 shockeyisthebest8056 said:

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a MRI. Just fuckin' wonderful.

On the plus side, if the Yanks are forced to play Kyle Higashioka every day, he's bound to get his first MLB hit at some point.

;>)

In comment 14003290 shockeyisthebest8056 said:

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a MRI. Just fuckin' wonderful.

Yankees are in trouble behind the plate if Romine is going to miss time, you can’t have a caree .191 hitter in the minor leagues behind the plate and a guy who is 0-21 in the majors Higashioka stinks, I said it the other day yankees has Kratz and gave him away to Milwaukee.

In comment 14003230 UConn4523 said:

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and find out what he can do, or if he turned the corner, then you aren’t doing your job as a manager/GM. We all think he sucks but he’s on the team and we need to know what we’ve got before the deadline and playoffs. Losing the game sucks, but there are positives that can come out of it.

Find out what he can do?// he’s been terrible against Boston dating back to his days in Oakland , and here is how he had done against them this year, 5 innings pitched 14 hits, 13 runs, his start last night was simular to the one he had back in April in Boston, this guy is a bum and should never see the mound again against the Red Sox

In comment 14003338 Jim in Tampa said:

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In comment 14003290 shockeyisthebest8056 said: Quote: a MRI. Just fuckin' wonderful. On the plus side, if the Yanks are forced to play Kyle Higashioka every day, he's bound to get his first MLB hit at some point. ;>)

He’s terrible, how he is even in the organization is mind blowing

In comment 14003350 nygnyy274 said:

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In comment 14003230 UConn4523 said: Quote: and find out what he can do, or if he turned the corner, then you aren’t doing your job as a manager/GM. We all think he sucks but he’s on the team and we need to know what we’ve got before the deadline and playoffs. Losing the game sucks, but there are positives that can come out of it. Find out what he can do?// he’s been terrible against Boston dating back to his days in Oakland , and here is how he had done against them this year, 5 innings pitched 14 hits, 13 runs, his start last night was simular to the one he had back in April in Boston, this guy is a bum and should never see the mound again against the Red Sox

Then he needs to not play for the Yankees anymore. You can’t hide a guy from a division rival and likely playoff opponent. If they can’t get it worked out with him, which is one of he reasons he pitches yesterday, then he should be traded or released.