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Big Rick in FL : 7/1/2018 8:56 am
Today's starting lineups. Iniesta on the bench and Asensio starting for him. Still can't figure out why David Silva is playing. He's been really bad. Also Nacho getting the start over Carvajal who doesn't seem fully fit. He's been bad also.

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Espana XI - De Gea, Nacho, Piqué, Ramos, Alba, Busquets, Koke, Asensio, Isco, Silva, Diego Costa

Russia XI - Akinfeev, Fernandes, Kudryashov, Kutepov, Ignasevich, Zhirkov, Samedov, Kuzyaev, Golovin, Zobnin, Dzyuba
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This is nuts  
UConn4523 : 7/1/2018 4:45 pm : link
.
Happy for Lukita  
Big Rick in FL : 7/1/2018 4:47 pm : link
Didn't want him to ruin his countries chances.

What a shootout. Some horrible shots. Some great saves. What a great World Cup day.
Justice for Croatia  
Kyle in NY : 7/1/2018 4:49 pm : link
.
I feel..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/1/2018 4:49 pm : link
for Schmeichel. He did what he needed to to keep Denmark in it.
PKs saved that game.  
section125 : 7/1/2018 4:53 pm : link
Thought that was a boring, play not to lose game. Almost fell a sleep several times.
Damn I'm so happy for Luka  
Big Rick in FL : 7/1/2018 4:56 pm : link
He deserves a long World Cup run. Had a real rough life growing up and he's been nothing but class on and off the field.
RE: RE: ...  
ColHowPepper : 7/1/2018 4:57 pm : link
In comment 14003691 Kyle in NY said:
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In comment 14003683 ColHowPepper said:
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find myself agreeing with Kyle again, the defender did make contact with the ball but it was still at the feet of Rebic and the defender brought him down...couldn't be a more naked example of a DOGSO, straight red and PK////

Yeah with only a few minutes left maybe it doesn’t make a difference. But if that’s not a straight red for denying a clear opportunity, I don’t know what is
I think we're saying exactly the same thing.

To flesh it out a bit more, I guess the justification of the yellow was that the defender made contact with the ball. Had that contact then put the ball beyond the reach of Rebic, e.g., over the goal line, it would be a different discussion. But, AFTER that contact, the ball was clearly still playable by Rebic, and the defender's legs tangled Rebic's and brought him down.
In a way  
Kyle in NY : 7/1/2018 5:00 pm : link
it reminded me of the Suarez handball in 2010 against Ghana. Almost feel like the goal should be awarded. And in that case Uruguay ended up winning. Didn’t feel right
^ and to Rick's  
ColHowPepper : 7/1/2018 5:11 pm : link
The irony that it was Modrić's perfectly weighted and placed ball to Rebic that resulted in the penalty that Modrić could not convert--how not right would it have felt had Denmark won?
They changed the "triple punishment" rule  
giantBCP : 7/1/2018 5:17 pm : link
that would have resulted in a red card and penalty. An instance like what Suarez did would still result in a red, however, if you're making a legitimate play on the ball, and they call a penalty, they won't award a red card as well.
RE: ^ and to Rick's  
Big Rick in FL : 7/1/2018 5:23 pm : link
In comment 14003713 ColHowPepper said:
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The irony that it was Modrić's perfectly weighted and placed ball to Rebic that resulted in the penalty that Modrić could not convert--how not right would it have felt had Denmark won?


I love good passing. Both in soccer and basketball. That Modric pass was ridiculous. Good lord.
But the rule..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/1/2018 5:23 pm : link
still exists that if a player is brought down with a clear path to goal that it is a straight red.
Does it?  
giantBCP : 7/1/2018 5:30 pm : link
https://www.efe.com/efe/english/destacada/fifa-changes-triple-punishment-rule-approves-testing-of-video-technology/50000261-2859395
RE: PKs saved that game.  
spike : 7/1/2018 5:33 pm : link
In comment 14003703 section125 said:
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Thought that was a boring, play not to lose game. Almost fell a sleep several times.



Zzzz me too
Shame on me for forgetting this  
ColHowPepper : 7/1/2018 5:45 pm : link
giantBCP is entirely correct. The revisions of 2016 still permit a send-off (Red Card) for a DOGSO on a handball, wherever in the field it takes place, and for pulldowns, pushes etc., but not in a situation where a DOGSO occurs in the course of making a play on the ball.

In comment 14003723 giantBCP said:
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https://www.efe.com/efe/english/destacada/fifa-changes-triple-punishment-rule-approves-testing-of-video-technology/50000261-2859395
From Law 12

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Denying a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity
Where a player denies the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring
opportunity by a deliberate handball offence the player is sent off wherever the
offence occurs.
Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own
penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity
and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offender is cautioned if the offence
was an attempt to play the ball; in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling,
pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.) the offending player must be sent off.
Amendments are in the rule book  
giantBCP : 7/1/2018 5:46 pm : link
Here.


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so the question is  
giantfan2000 : 7/1/2018 9:39 pm : link
is Russia cheating ?

Seems like Russian players have ran the farthest during tournament than any other team by far..

could be adrenaline from being host country or could be something else hmmmmmm

of course the ENTIRE Russian Team was accused of doping in 2014 Brazil games but mysteriously after 2 year investigation that ended right before this World Cup -- FIFA found "insufficient evidence".



RE: Justice for Croatia  
Del Shofner : 7/1/2018 9:50 pm : link
In comment 14003699 Kyle in NY said:
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Somewhere, hopefully, David Diehl wasn't driving today.
RE: RE: Russia  
Del Shofner : 7/1/2018 9:57 pm : link
In comment 14003505 Eman11 said:
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Kick save and a beauty!

I don't know if I've seen a better penalty save than that one.


Just watching the highlights now. "Kick save and a beauty!" is right for sure. That was a helluva penalty save.
Thanks for the..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/1/2018 10:15 pm : link
clarification on the red card rule.

I learn new things on these threads everyday.

If we could just morph this over to the football threads!!
RE: Thanks for the..  
Kyle in NY : 7/2/2018 8:51 am : link
In comment 14003983 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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clarification on the red card rule.

I learn new things on these threads everyday.

If we could just morph this over to the football threads!!


Without a doubt, the soccer threads here are fantastic. Even if there is a bit too much Real Madrid talk :)
RE: RE: Thanks for the..  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/2/2018 9:07 am : link
In comment 14004187 Kyle in NY said:
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In comment 14003983 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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clarification on the red card rule.

I learn new things on these threads everyday.

If we could just morph this over to the football threads!!



Without a doubt, the soccer threads here are fantastic. Even if there is a bit too much Real Madrid talk :)


Big Rick has turned into the ZGiants98 of soccer threads!
Really looking..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/2/2018 9:10 am : link
forward to the Brazil-Mexico match.

Brazil is vulnerable and Mexico took down Germany, but as we saw the group stage move along, that win looks less impressive now.

I think Coutinho will be the X factor once again and perhaps look to Roberto Firmino coming on to make a critical play later in the game.
RE: RE: RE: Thanks for the..  
Kyle in NY : 7/2/2018 9:14 am : link
In comment 14004209 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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In comment 14004187 Kyle in NY said:


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In comment 14003983 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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clarification on the red card rule.

I learn new things on these threads everyday.

If we could just morph this over to the football threads!!



Without a doubt, the soccer threads here are fantastic. Even if there is a bit too much Real Madrid talk :)



Big Rick has turned into the ZGiants98 of soccer threads!


Lukita!!!
RE: Really looking..  
Kyle in NY : 7/2/2018 9:15 am : link
In comment 14004211 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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forward to the Brazil-Mexico match.

Brazil is vulnerable and Mexico took down Germany, but as we saw the group stage move along, that win looks less impressive now.

I think Coutinho will be the X factor once again and perhaps look to Roberto Firmino coming on to make a critical play later in the game.


Brazil should consider giving Firmino the start. Gabriel Jesus has struggled and that Liverpool connection between the two might be just what they need. Coutinho has been phenomenal.
Gabriel Jesus is starting  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/2/2018 9:21 am : link
But practically everyone agrees with your point.
don't know what to make of El Tri's  
ColHowPepper : 7/2/2018 9:35 am : link
collapse v Sweden. As noted the 1-0 over Germany is now a bit suspect, but I attributed the win to Mexico's pace on the ball and individual quickness overall, which I thought would also translate against Sweden. Against another smaller, quicker side ROK Mexico held its own. I think Brasil can certainly play that game yet also with more physicality. Lozano is struggling with fitness and I think Chicharito has lost something. I think Brasil is superior in goal and look to Brasil to continue playing.
RE: RE: Thanks for the..  
Jon in NYC : 7/2/2018 9:55 am : link
In comment 14004187 Kyle in NY said:
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In comment 14003983 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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clarification on the red card rule.

I learn new things on these threads everyday.

If we could just morph this over to the football threads!!



Without a doubt, the soccer threads here are fantastic. Even if there is a bit too much Real Madrid talk :)


BBI soccer threads are great. I feel like it really weeds out the doofuses.
after 5 minutes  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/2/2018 10:06 am : link
I predict lots of flopping, theatrics, and bad fouls. Enjoy!
Brazil dominating  
UConn4523 : 7/2/2018 10:34 am : link
only a matter of time before one gets in.
Don't want to see either Brasil or Mexico  
ColHowPepper : 7/2/2018 10:51 am : link
eliminated, sucks that they're meeting this early...such pleasure in seeing their skill, attacking mentality, risk taking
Brazil 1-0  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/2/2018 11:07 am : link
Neymark slide in.
What a goal  
UConn4523 : 7/2/2018 11:09 am : link
Neymar back heel passes it at the top of the box and makes a run for the tap in from a cross. Beautiful execution.
Brasil turning the screws  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/2/2018 11:15 am : link
Ochoa saves the game. Casemeiro yellow card means he's out for next round.
I may be  
Jon in NYC : 7/2/2018 11:19 am : link
in the minority, but I think Fernandinho is the better player.
RE: I may be  
Go Terps : 7/2/2018 11:26 am : link
In comment 14004392 Jon in NYC said:
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in the minority, but I think Fernandinho is the better player.


I agree.
Neymar really is tough to take  
Go Terps : 7/2/2018 11:28 am : link
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I hope Neymar is able to have a functional life after that assault  
schabadoo : 7/2/2018 11:31 am : link
My fear is that they may have to amputate.
Again..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/2/2018 11:42 am : link
they have video. Why not give a card for the theatrics. I really don't know how with the quality of footage today that people obviously exaggerate contact and why they can't be disciplined for such crap.

I've often believed that soccer should have a rule that if you stay down on the ground, you have to leave the pitch for a certain amount of time.

If you fake an injury(or have a legitimate one) in almost any other sport, you have to exit the field. Make these guys sit out 2 minutes or something like that if cards aren't going to be issued.

It is really easy to tell that a guy getting hit in the shoulder who grabs his head is faking it.
Neymar and Firmino finish it off  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/2/2018 11:45 am : link
The right back #2 looked completely exhausted.
A thoroughly impressive performance  
Kyle in NY : 7/2/2018 11:46 am : link
by Brazil
Firmino with the nice finish to make it 2-0  
dpinzow : 7/2/2018 11:47 am : link
and advance Brazil. Also ensures that all of Liverpool's big three strikers get on the board in this world cup
I still think..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/2/2018 11:50 am : link
if Firmino stays on the bench early in the next games, Brazil is going to regret it.
RE: I still think..  
dpinzow : 7/2/2018 11:50 am : link
In comment 14004452 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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if Firmino stays on the bench early in the next games, Brazil is going to regret it.


Agreed. Firmino >>> Gabriel Jesus
Add another to the Firminho  
UESBLUE : 7/2/2018 11:58 am : link
fan club. I thought he should've started all along. Whether its next to Salah or Neymar the guy just goes about his biz being a silent assassin who gets almost no headlines.
wow  
giantfan2000 : 7/2/2018 12:00 pm : link
impressive win by Brazil They look like the team to beat.

Neymar should win an Oscar for this theatrics but on the other hand he
is is constantly getting mug especially right after he passes the ball.


I'd  
Jon in NYC : 7/2/2018 12:01 pm : link
be hesitant labelling them the team to beat. They've had a pretty easy road and haven't been all that convincing. Even today it's not like they had a ton of chances.

I'd put my money on France.
assuming Belgium beats Japan later  
UESBLUE : 7/2/2018 12:01 pm : link
that Brazil v Belgium will be must see tv
When Neymar..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/2/2018 12:03 pm : link
went down in the box flailing his arms like an idiot without even being touched in the group stage, it should've been a yellow.

Luckily, the penalty the ref called was reversed on review, but how the fuck do officials fall for that crap in the first place? If I see Suarez writhe on the ground and there's no blood, I'm carding his ass. Same with Neymar.

I just hate that it isn't just accepted in the game, but that challenges where players are faking it often are rewarded with disciplinary action on the defender.
it's too bad  
PaulBlakeTSU : 7/2/2018 12:04 pm : link
so many of the top teams are all on the top half of the bracket. I like what Croatia is doing and hope they keep winning to see more of Modric's game, but some of these top-half matches could be intense.
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