The New York Giants offense from 2007-2017, over a ten year period, has averaged about 23.10 points per game.
However the question is, what has the defense done?
During that same period from 2007-2017, the Giants defense on average, has given up 23.06 points per game.
Which puts them at about a .500 win/loss percentage...
It is of note, that Eli Manning's career win/loss record, which is 119 wins to 107 losses reflects these numbers.
Putting him, and the team at a .527 career w/l percentage.
With that being the case, even if the Giants average 24 points per game on offense, with the additions of Barkley and a healthy Beckham.
If this defense continually gives up 24.3 points per game, like it did last year, it won't matter what the offense does, they will finish 7-9 or 8-8...
For the Giants to emerge as a playoff team, the defense must improve, and hold them to 20 ppg or less.
Feel free to discuss?
If Giants offense get better AND the defense....is only way the Giants get back to playoffs.
I have a good feeling that is possible
The fact is the giants have had some shitty play for awhile.
How about we look forward to 2018 instead of the past.
The reasoning breaks down when you project .09 gain on offense and say a -3 is needed on defense when a 3 point gain on offense and -.09 on defense would get the same result.
I think it is reasonable to think the offense will be better and the defense will also be better this year. That said, I agree with those who are simply waiting to see what happens and hoping for the best.
I think I am in the same boat.
Oh, and 2007-2017 is not a ten year period. It is 11 years.
Also lines 2, 4, 6 and 7 are not even complete sentences let alone new paragraphs.
Discuss?
Also lines 2, 4, 6 and 7 are not even complete sentences let alone new paragraphs.
Discuss?
Perhaps it's code?? Someone being held against their will??
What a novel point...
No player on defense has been with the team more than 3 years.
How is what happened 10 years ago at all meaningful to this team?
What underlying factor are you trying to discuss? It dawned on you that scoring more than the other team wins football games?
Holy hell...
Your expression "is you will", is not a coherent sentence structure. So in the future, I would encourage you to think clearly before posting.
If Giants offense get better AND the defense....is only way the Giants get back to playoffs.
I have a good feeling that is possible
George from PA, I agree with you, thanks for contributing
Hey Joey,
I've done an analysis on Phil Rivers, Big Ben, Brady, Flacco, also the 1980's Giants teams.
I'll share that info soon, thanks for the contribution
The reasoning breaks down when you project .09 gain on offense and say a -3 is needed on defense when a 3 point gain on offense and -.09 on defense would get the same result.
I think it is reasonable to think the offense will be better and the defense will also be better this year. That said, I agree with those who are simply waiting to see what happens and hoping for the best.
Real, I agree with you, hoping for the best, thanks for your post
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consider any of your points. Think of it like what the Supplemental Draft is to the actual draft. A Supplemental New Year's Resolution is you will. Yea, thats it.
I think I am in the same boat.
Oh, and 2007-2017 is not a ten year period. It is 11 years.
Yes you are correct, my bad its divided out by 11 years.
Joe in Pa, thanks for standing up for me, I appreciate it
No player on defense has been with the team more than 3 years.
How is what happened 10 years ago at all meaningful to this team?
Maybe you didn't understand my post, please read it again, it is anything but meaningless.
Joe in Pa, thanks again for defending me, means a lot
What underlying factor are you trying to discuss? It dawned on you that scoring more than the other team wins football games?
Holy hell...
Actually it's not. If you would have done the research, you would have figured out why the teams W/L ratio over the past 11 years is what it is.
Especially when you compare this to the other starting qb's over that period of time in the Nfl who have a strong defense, just saying
Yes that's the reason why I do it. I spend hours upon hours researching, to share something I've learned, so I can have the chubby kid from the south tear it down.
Absolutely brilliant reasoning...
mavric, first of all thanks for your contribution.
The only issue I have with this, is that in 2014 and 2015 the NYG's offense averaged 25 points per game.
But they were giving up 27 points per game on defense. so in that sense time of possession had very little correlation to there defense.
You don't research shit. It keeps getting pointed out everytime you misuse the term "research".
Laughable that you keep saying research. Laughable unless you're just a fucking troll.
If you did research, you'd know that the #1 correlation to W-L since 2000 (and probably before if the data was better) is team health.
But you don't research anything and state "facts" that are shitty opinions.
You don't research shit. It keeps getting pointed out everytime you misuse the term "research".
Laughable that you keep saying research. Laughable unless you're just a fucking troll.
If you did research, you'd know that the #1 correlation to W-L since 2000 (and probably before if the data was better) is team health.
But you don't research anything and state "facts" that are shitty opinions.
Are you barrel fishing again? Ingrate!
When the fish jumps in your lap, set the table for dinner!!
You are getting ripped on because you are overselling what you are doing. You are not doing research, you are stating the obvious.
When the fish jumps in your lap, set the table for dinner!!
😂😂
At getting ripped plenty around here - avoid generalities (they're low-hanging fruit that is just too easy to discredit)
Unfortunately, after an extended period of sanity, BBI seems to have digressed to a mild form of the former "henhouse mentality". But take heart, I don't see "thread police" coming back.
If you do strongly believe in a point, don't expect forbearance and understanding. If you stumble, ever so slightly the wolves will pounce. Having said that, don't be discouraged, eventually you'll see the fruit of your thoughts ripen (and become part of the respected BBI knowledge).
Maybe he'll outline how many rush yards per game we had in the last 5 seasons and draw the conclusion that we need to be a better rushing team.
It took him hours and hours to copy and paste score totals into excel and do "=average(A1:A11)".