Wilt, KAJ, Magic, Worthy, Shaq, Kobe...and now LeBron follows Kobe.
And the Knicks have had Patrick Ewing and...Jeremy Lin for a couple of months.
It's really interesting the way LA has kicked NY's ass as a destination for NBA players. Wilt, KAJ, Shaq, LeBron and even Kobe to some extent chose LA as their spot. Kareem is the only one who I think rated NY on a par with LA - the Knicks just got outbid. Hollywood, beaches, sunshine beats Big Apple and "world's greatest arena".
Yep. I mean the same can't be sad for hockey, football, and baseball, but when it comes to basketball? Players have always opted for LA over NY.
Does Philly see an opportunity to make the Finals and give up a nice haul to the Spurs to get Kawhi for a year? Or do they just allow Boston to be the favorites?
Does LA grab Cousins and whoever else they can get in an attempt to challenge Houston/GS this year or do they keep trying for Kawhi?
This was the pretty obvious outcome but it'll still be fun to see how it shakes things up around the league. We'll finally get a non-Lebron team out of the east and his streak of NBA Finals is likely over.
Lebron is the biggest fraud in sports. Always has been, always will be.
I seriously doubt the Lakers or LeBron wants to "punt" a season of his winding down career. That's why the Spurs could get a haul from them... in theory.
Unless the Celtics are willing to take him without an extension, I don't see any other place that helps the Spurs franchise as much as the Lakers.
I'd rather have Fultz and Saric than Kuzma, Ingram and Hart.
Fultz is not the player we thought he was going to be... certainly not the one I saw at Washington against my Zags. He's STILL working with a shooting coach to fix his yips. He's basically a throw-in at this point.
they would be maxed out with lebron and boogie and then wouldnt be able to sign kawhi
No, they would just stretch Deng and get space. People are also sleeping on the idea that if Cousins goes there, a number of vets who want a ring will be willing to sign minimum salary deals to ride LeBron's coattails.
huh? stetching deng does not give them max money...
plus they have to stretch deng along with renouncing randle to get cousins
Surprise or Cinderella team even possible? Can a basketball version of the 2008 Giants actually win? I don’t watch as much as I use to so I am sincerely asking.
A 7 game series pretty much negates that. Could the '07 Giants have won a best of 5 or 7 against that Pats team?
And LA is a great place to live if you have his kind of money. Watching Lebron for all of his career he doesn't come across as a guy who wants what goes with playing in a NE sports market. Philly can be a very difficult place to play.
is going to go to the Sixers for Fultz, Saric and a 1st, which is the correct move for everyone.
Lebron is setting up his post NBA life, which I don't blame him for. But this wasn't about winning.
Unless the Spurs are just so stingy that they won't trade Kawhi to the Lakers under any circumstance, Fultz/Saric/1st pick is a pretty garbage return.
The Spurs need to get smart (not be like the Mets) and get over the whole Laker thing. Now is the time to extract a shitload from them. Get Kuzma, Ingram, Hart, AND a 1st round pick.
Popovich detests the Lakers; no way he trades his best player to them
is going to go to the Sixers for Fultz, Saric and a 1st, which is the correct move for everyone.
Lebron is setting up his post NBA life, which I don't blame him for. But this wasn't about winning.
Unless the Spurs are just so stingy that they won't trade Kawhi to the Lakers under any circumstance, Fultz/Saric/1st pick is a pretty garbage return.
The Spurs need to get smart (not be like the Mets) and get over the whole Laker thing. Now is the time to extract a shitload from them. Get Kuzma, Ingram, Hart, AND a 1st round pick.
Popovich detests the Lakers; no way he trades his best player to them
Pop will do what’s best for his organization. If they get Ingram and picks, I think they would do that. Ingram just looks like a player that would blossom under Pop
There are people here who truly believe Lebron picked a lesser roster? See you in 24 hours. If you think he went to la without having all the pieces in place you’re kidding yourself. Is he GM Lebron that controls everything everywhere he goes or is he not?
There are people here who truly believe Lebron picked a lesser roster? See you in 24 hours. If you think he went to la without having all the pieces in place you’re kidding yourself. Is he GM Lebron that controls everything everywhere he goes or is he not?
It’s hysterical isn’t it? I mean do people believe that lebron is going to sacrifice titles at the end of the year for no reason. Every state has amazing schools where his son could go to.
It may not be this year but at the latest next year he will have his next super team.
is going to go to the Sixers for Fultz, Saric and a 1st, which is the correct move for everyone.
Lebron is setting up his post NBA life, which I don't blame him for. But this wasn't about winning.
Um, no. That is a garbage deal only a Sixers fan would come up with. Fultz doesn't have much trade value, Saric isn't enough as the main piece, and that 1st is not worth a lot since it will be in the late 20s. They only have their own 1st rounders and a 1st round pick in 2021 from the Heat.
especially because comments like he moved to LA For his family make no sense. I mean it’s exponentioally better than Cleveland but he’s also a god there and if you guys weren’t paying attention he’s richer than god. This makes sense only if he already knows who else is joining him. It’s obvious
Boston should be the favorites in the East for the next few years so it makes no sense for Kyrie to want to leave when he has a much clearer path now for the prime of his career.
Gotta admit, as a neutral NBA fan, I’m really looking forward to what that team might look like and how they match up in the West. Should be pretty fun
is going to go to the Sixers for Fultz, Saric and a 1st, which is the correct move for everyone.
Lebron is setting up his post NBA life, which I don't blame him for. But this wasn't about winning.
Unless the Spurs are just so stingy that they won't trade Kawhi to the Lakers under any circumstance, Fultz/Saric/1st pick is a pretty garbage return.
The Spurs need to get smart (not be like the Mets) and get over the whole Laker thing. Now is the time to extract a shitload from them. Get Kuzma, Ingram, Hart, AND a 1st round pick.
What could the Lakers offer that would be any better than that? At least you could dream with Fultz. At this point you can't dream with anything the Lakers would give them. Kuzma, Ingram, Hart, and 1st round pick does what, exactly, for the Spurs? Teams don't make trades anymore so they can be average. Teams would rather tank than guarantee the 6th seed in a conference for years to come. In any trade, they will need to get a guy that could POTENTIALLY be a star, otherwise they wont make the deal. And they certainly shouldnt make it with a team in their own conference.
The NBA is now completely about stars. If you don't have 1, you have no chance. Building a solid team is not what teams are looking to do. As great as the Spurs have been, they never win a single title if they didn't tank the year Robinson got hurt.
but unless they can get Kawhi, and I don't see any way they can compete with the Sixers offer on top of not seeing Popovich be willing to send him to the Lakers, they will not compete with the Warriors in a 7 game series.
The Warriors will still have the 2nd-5th best players on the court against the Lakers and LeBron. I hate Green but he's a better piece on the Warriors than anyone on the Lakers.
Ingram put up a ton of empty stats. I dont see him ever being anything more than solid.
many are factoring in that LeBron's best years are likely behind him, not ahead of him.
They will need him to play at the level he did last year for 4 years just to have a chance to beat the Warriors in a 7 game series. Guy has a ton of milage on him and at some point he is going to slow down. The Warriors best players all have their best years ahead of them age wise
Lebron is a flat out fraud. He does this every time he has changed teams. He conspires with other players and tries to create his own team. Wade and bosh admitted they knew they were going to join forces. Kevin live said he had prior talks with lebron before he was traded.
There has been rumors that him and Durant have talked already. We all know Kawhi wants to go to LA. I am sure lebron has talked to Boogie.
Everyone falls for this everytine he changes teams. Lebron is one of the biggest phonies ever. And once at least two more guys come, maybe people will realize it.
We all know the saying... when the going gets tough..... lebron gets going.
Lebron is a flat out fraud. He does this every time he has changed teams. He conspires with other players and tries to create his own team. Wade and bosh admitted they knew they were going to join forces. Kevin live said he had prior talks with lebron before he was traded.
There has been rumors that him and Durant have talked already. We all know Kawhi wants to go to LA. I am sure lebron has talked to Boogie.
Everyone falls for this everytine he changes teams. Lebron is one of the biggest phonies ever. And once at least two more guys come, maybe people will realize it.
We all know the saying... when the going gets tough..... lebron gets going.
Serious question, what is it people are "falling for" with LeBron? The entire basketball world knows LeBron detests languishing on bad teams and will pull every lever to pick his teammates, whether that be moving teams or cornering ownership to overspend.
Is anyone under the impression James wants to play on shitty teams and doesn't meddle with the personnel?
LeBron isn't chasing a ring here. There were a couple teams that woudl give him a better chance of winning one.
He's doing it for his post playing career.
In a 7 game series, without injuries, it's hard to see the Lakers putting together a roster for 2018 that can beat the Warriors.
Cousins, while immensely talented, is not a winning ballplayer.
He's not chasing rings, hes doing it for this post playing career... that itself makes him a fraud. Go chase f*cking rings, you are a professional athlete, his post playing career will take care of itself. He's Lebron for christ sakes
I think there are better teams out there. LA didn't even make the play-offs last year. He probably makes them a contender this year but, are they going to beat the Warriors?
He better have inside info that more players are on the way?
He did what was best for his family. People will find a way to hate.
Right? It won't be long before we read that going to the Lakers is somehow taking the easy way out.
Do you honestly believe the only reason he did this was for family and post career?
Those maybe factors but lebron has one mission in basketball. That’s to win titles. He isn’t going to LA expecting to lose. And RVERYONE knows he ain’t winning with the group LA has now.
Lebron is a flat out fraud. He does this every time he has changed teams. He conspires with other players and tries to create his own team. Wade and bosh admitted they knew they were going to join forces. Kevin live said he had prior talks with lebron before he was traded.
There has been rumors that him and Durant have talked already. We all know Kawhi wants to go to LA. I am sure lebron has talked to Boogie.
Everyone falls for this everytine he changes teams. Lebron is one of the biggest phonies ever. And once at least two more guys come, maybe people will realize it.
We all know the saying... when the going gets tough..... lebron gets going.
Serious question, what is it people are "falling for" with LeBron? The entire basketball world knows LeBron detests languishing on bad teams and will pull every lever to pick his teammates, whether that be moving teams or cornering ownership to overspend.
Is anyone under the impression James wants to play on shitty teams and doesn't meddle with the personnel?
Look at this thread. People seriously believe he only chose LA for family and/or post career.
He chose LA because it’s the place where he can have it all - and that’s include recruiting players to win with. Whether it be this year or next.
Lebron is the biggest fraud in sports. Always has been, always will be.
Fraud? Going to a shitty team makes you a fraud?
To a shitty team in the Western Conference, no less.
People have been diminishing his accomplishments and "competitive spirit" by asserting he just coasts along against historically weak competition. They can't say that anymore, and yet, they will.
Lebron is the biggest fraud in sports. Always has been, always will be.
Fraud? Going to a shitty team makes you a fraud?
To a shitty team in the Western Conference, no less.
People have been diminishing his accomplishments and "competitive spirit" by asserting he just coasts along against historically weak competition. They can't say that anymore, and yet, they will.
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Wilt, KAJ, Magic, Worthy, Shaq, Kobe...and now LeBron follows Kobe.
And the Knicks have had Patrick Ewing and...Jeremy Lin for a couple of months.
It's really interesting the way LA has kicked NY's ass as a destination for NBA players. Wilt, KAJ, Shaq, LeBron and even Kobe to some extent chose LA as their spot. Kareem is the only one who I think rated NY on a par with LA - the Knicks just got outbid. Hollywood, beaches, sunshine beats Big Apple and "world's greatest arena".
Yep. I mean the same can't be sad for hockey, football, and baseball, but when it comes to basketball? Players have always opted for LA over NY.
Does LA grab Cousins and whoever else they can get in an attempt to challenge Houston/GS this year or do they keep trying for Kawhi?
This was the pretty obvious outcome but it'll still be fun to see how it shakes things up around the league. We'll finally get a non-Lebron team out of the east and his streak of NBA Finals is likely over.
Lebron is the biggest fraud in sports. Always has been, always will be.
I seriously doubt the Lakers or LeBron wants to "punt" a season of his winding down career. That's why the Spurs could get a haul from them... in theory.
Unless the Celtics are willing to take him without an extension, I don't see any other place that helps the Spurs franchise as much as the Lakers.
I'd rather have Fultz and Saric than Kuzma, Ingram and Hart.
Fultz is not the player we thought he was going to be... certainly not the one I saw at Washington against my Zags. He's STILL working with a shooting coach to fix his yips. He's basically a throw-in at this point.
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they would be maxed out with lebron and boogie and then wouldnt be able to sign kawhi
No, they would just stretch Deng and get space. People are also sleeping on the idea that if Cousins goes there, a number of vets who want a ring will be willing to sign minimum salary deals to ride LeBron's coattails.
huh? stetching deng does not give them max money...
plus they have to stretch deng along with renouncing randle to get cousins
Lebron is the biggest fraud in sports. Always has been, always will be.
Fraud? Going to a shitty team makes you a fraud?
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Surprise or Cinderella team even possible? Can a basketball version of the 2008 Giants actually win? I don’t watch as much as I use to so I am sincerely asking.
A 7 game series pretty much negates that. Could the '07 Giants have won a best of 5 or 7 against that Pats team?
Uh yes
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is going to go to the Sixers for Fultz, Saric and a 1st, which is the correct move for everyone.
Lebron is setting up his post NBA life, which I don't blame him for. But this wasn't about winning.
Unless the Spurs are just so stingy that they won't trade Kawhi to the Lakers under any circumstance, Fultz/Saric/1st pick is a pretty garbage return.
The Spurs need to get smart (not be like the Mets) and get over the whole Laker thing. Now is the time to extract a shitload from them. Get Kuzma, Ingram, Hart, AND a 1st round pick.
Popovich detests the Lakers; no way he trades his best player to them
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Can be free agents next year.
Lebron is the biggest fraud in sports. Always has been, always will be.
Fraud? Going to a shitty team makes you a fraud?
I know right. No one can claim he’s chasing now. He’s going to a young team. That’s been in the lottery
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Can be free agents next year.
Lebron is the biggest fraud in sports. Always has been, always will be.
Fraud? Going to a shitty team makes you a fraud?
They won’t be shitty. There’s more to come
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Can be free agents next year.
Lebron is the biggest fraud in sports. Always has been, always will be.
Fraud? Going to a shitty team makes you a fraud?
I know right. No one can claim he’s chasing now. He’s going to a young team. That’s been in the lottery
Lol yeah he isn’t planning on recruiting anyone else.
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is going to go to the Sixers for Fultz, Saric and a 1st, which is the correct move for everyone.
Lebron is setting up his post NBA life, which I don't blame him for. But this wasn't about winning.
Unless the Spurs are just so stingy that they won't trade Kawhi to the Lakers under any circumstance, Fultz/Saric/1st pick is a pretty garbage return.
The Spurs need to get smart (not be like the Mets) and get over the whole Laker thing. Now is the time to extract a shitload from them. Get Kuzma, Ingram, Hart, AND a 1st round pick.
Popovich detests the Lakers; no way he trades his best player to them
Pop will do what’s best for his organization. If they get Ingram and picks, I think they would do that. Ingram just looks like a player that would blossom under Pop
Now we can take down that silly ass banner,maybe let King Kong use it as handkerchief.
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Can be free agents next year.
Lebron is the biggest fraud in sports. Always has been, always will be.
Fraud? Going to a shitty team makes you a fraud?
I know right. No one can claim he’s chasing now. He’s going to a young team. That’s been in the lottery
Lol yeah he isn’t planning on recruiting anyone else.
He has no guarantee of another star though. Have to respect him for making this move and to the West. Which is completely loaded
He has no guarantee of another star though. Have to respect him for making this move and to the West. Which is completely loaded
Respect is given to people who don’t jump from team to team when things go bad on the previous one.
Lebron wasn’t signing with LA if he didn’t think he could win a title. No chance in fucking hell.
There is more in the works. He did this with Miami and with Cleveland the 2nd time. The only constant is people falling for it.
Lebron is the biggest fraud in sports. Always has been, always will be.
Didn't you switch what teams you root for?
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Can be free agents next year.
Lebron is the biggest fraud in sports. Always has been, always will be.
Didn't you switch what teams you root for?
Nope never have. Your probably thinking of Vin.
It’s hysterical isn’t it? I mean do people believe that lebron is going to sacrifice titles at the end of the year for no reason. Every state has amazing schools where his son could go to.
It may not be this year but at the latest next year he will have his next super team.
Lebron is setting up his post NBA life, which I don't blame him for. But this wasn't about winning.
Um, no. That is a garbage deal only a Sixers fan would come up with. Fultz doesn't have much trade value, Saric isn't enough as the main piece, and that 1st is not worth a lot since it will be in the late 20s. They only have their own 1st rounders and a 1st round pick in 2021 from the Heat.
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Can be free agents next year.
Lebron is the biggest fraud in sports. Always has been, always will be.
Fraud? Going to a shitty team makes you a fraud?
I know right. No one can claim he’s chasing now. He’s going to a young team. That’s been in the lottery
Lol yeah he isn’t planning on recruiting anyone else.
Like who?
Gotta admit, as a neutral NBA fan, I’m really looking forward to what that team might look like and how they match up in the West. Should be pretty fun
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is going to go to the Sixers for Fultz, Saric and a 1st, which is the correct move for everyone.
Lebron is setting up his post NBA life, which I don't blame him for. But this wasn't about winning.
Unless the Spurs are just so stingy that they won't trade Kawhi to the Lakers under any circumstance, Fultz/Saric/1st pick is a pretty garbage return.
The Spurs need to get smart (not be like the Mets) and get over the whole Laker thing. Now is the time to extract a shitload from them. Get Kuzma, Ingram, Hart, AND a 1st round pick.
What could the Lakers offer that would be any better than that? At least you could dream with Fultz. At this point you can't dream with anything the Lakers would give them. Kuzma, Ingram, Hart, and 1st round pick does what, exactly, for the Spurs? Teams don't make trades anymore so they can be average. Teams would rather tank than guarantee the 6th seed in a conference for years to come. In any trade, they will need to get a guy that could POTENTIALLY be a star, otherwise they wont make the deal. And they certainly shouldnt make it with a team in their own conference.
The NBA is now completely about stars. If you don't have 1, you have no chance. Building a solid team is not what teams are looking to do. As great as the Spurs have been, they never win a single title if they didn't tank the year Robinson got hurt.
LeBron isn't chasing a ring here. There were a couple teams that woudl give him a better chance of winning one.
He's doing it for his post playing career.
In a 7 game series, without injuries, it's hard to see the Lakers putting together a roster for 2018 that can beat the Warriors.
Cousins, while immensely talented, is not a winning ballplayer.
The Warriors will still have the 2nd-5th best players on the court against the Lakers and LeBron. I hate Green but he's a better piece on the Warriors than anyone on the Lakers.
Ingram put up a ton of empty stats. I dont see him ever being anything more than solid.
They will need him to play at the level he did last year for 4 years just to have a chance to beat the Warriors in a 7 game series. Guy has a ton of milage on him and at some point he is going to slow down. The Warriors best players all have their best years ahead of them age wise
There has been rumors that him and Durant have talked already. We all know Kawhi wants to go to LA. I am sure lebron has talked to Boogie.
Everyone falls for this everytine he changes teams. Lebron is one of the biggest phonies ever. And once at least two more guys come, maybe people will realize it.
We all know the saying... when the going gets tough..... lebron gets going.
There has been rumors that him and Durant have talked already. We all know Kawhi wants to go to LA. I am sure lebron has talked to Boogie.
Everyone falls for this everytine he changes teams. Lebron is one of the biggest phonies ever. And once at least two more guys come, maybe people will realize it.
We all know the saying... when the going gets tough..... lebron gets going.
Serious question, what is it people are "falling for" with LeBron? The entire basketball world knows LeBron detests languishing on bad teams and will pull every lever to pick his teammates, whether that be moving teams or cornering ownership to overspend.
Is anyone under the impression James wants to play on shitty teams and doesn't meddle with the personnel?
LeBron isn't chasing a ring here. There were a couple teams that woudl give him a better chance of winning one.
He's doing it for his post playing career.
In a 7 game series, without injuries, it's hard to see the Lakers putting together a roster for 2018 that can beat the Warriors.
Cousins, while immensely talented, is not a winning ballplayer.
He's not chasing rings, hes doing it for this post playing career... that itself makes him a fraud. Go chase f*cking rings, you are a professional athlete, his post playing career will take care of itself. He's Lebron for christ sakes
Right? It won't be long before we read that going to the Lakers is somehow taking the easy way out.
He better have inside info that more players are on the way?
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He did what was best for his family. People will find a way to hate.
Right? It won't be long before we read that going to the Lakers is somehow taking the easy way out.
Do you honestly believe the only reason he did this was for family and post career?
Those maybe factors but lebron has one mission in basketball. That’s to win titles. He isn’t going to LA expecting to lose. And RVERYONE knows he ain’t winning with the group LA has now.
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Lebron is a flat out fraud. He does this every time he has changed teams. He conspires with other players and tries to create his own team. Wade and bosh admitted they knew they were going to join forces. Kevin live said he had prior talks with lebron before he was traded.
There has been rumors that him and Durant have talked already. We all know Kawhi wants to go to LA. I am sure lebron has talked to Boogie.
Everyone falls for this everytine he changes teams. Lebron is one of the biggest phonies ever. And once at least two more guys come, maybe people will realize it.
We all know the saying... when the going gets tough..... lebron gets going.
Serious question, what is it people are "falling for" with LeBron? The entire basketball world knows LeBron detests languishing on bad teams and will pull every lever to pick his teammates, whether that be moving teams or cornering ownership to overspend.
Is anyone under the impression James wants to play on shitty teams and doesn't meddle with the personnel?
Look at this thread. People seriously believe he only chose LA for family and/or post career.
He chose LA because it’s the place where he can have it all - and that’s include recruiting players to win with. Whether it be this year or next.
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Can be free agents next year.
Lebron is the biggest fraud in sports. Always has been, always will be.
Fraud? Going to a shitty team makes you a fraud?
To a shitty team in the Western Conference, no less.
People have been diminishing his accomplishments and "competitive spirit" by asserting he just coasts along against historically weak competition. They can't say that anymore, and yet, they will.
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Can be free agents next year.
Lebron is the biggest fraud in sports. Always has been, always will be.
Fraud? Going to a shitty team makes you a fraud?
To a shitty team in the Western Conference, no less.
People have been diminishing his accomplishments and "competitive spirit" by asserting he just coasts along against historically weak competition. They can't say that anymore, and yet, they will.
Offseason isn’t over yet...
Free agency has killed this sport.