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NFT: Yanks talk 7/2 - Braves on deck, an off the wall trade idea

Greg from LI : 7/2/2018 11:28 am
The upstart Braves come to the Bronx for a three game set. While much ink has been spilled over the Braves' young talent, now that I'm looking at their stats, what jumps out at you is the out-of-nowhere numbers being posted by some guys who have been washed-up has beens for a while: Kurt Suzuki, Nick Markakis, and Anibal Sanchez, tonight's scheduled starter.

Suzuki never hit much until going to the Braves last year at the age of 33. He's hit .284/.351/.515 as a Brave - what the hell? Who knew Nick Markakis was even still in MLB?? Yet he here is posting career-best numbers at 34. Sanchez posted sterling ERAs of 4.99, 5.87, and 6.41 the past three seasons in Detroit, but somehow has a 2.68 this year. Time for some market corrections.

Regarding trades for starters.....maybe the Yankees do need to deal for a 2018 Met pitcher. Just not the ones you're thinking of. Could Matt Harvey, of all people, be a good bargain pickup? His last five starts for the Reds have been very good: 29.1 IP, 21 H, 11 R, 21K/7 BB, 3.38 ERA, .955 WHIP. Fangraphs had a little writeup about him today suggesting his rebound isn't smoke and mirrors.

What a kick in the balls to the Mets if Harvey ended up helping the Yanks to a title, huh?
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RE: A horrible idea  
arcarsenal : 7/2/2018 2:27 pm : link
In comment 14004655 PaulN said:
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Worst idea I have heard. Just keep the young guys in there before we get that guy who has nothing left in the tank, it's not about handling New York, that talk is for morons. it is about his stuff, Sonny Gray does not have the stuff to win in this division, that is why he struggles, not because he can't handle new York, he struggles with his interviews because he can't handle New York. He does not have a put away pitch anymore, and neither does Harvey. He is where he belongs.


Most of this is completely off-base.
Guess you missed the whole part about innings limits  
Greg from LI : 7/2/2018 2:57 pm : link
And how neither German nor Loaisiga has thrown more than 109 innings in their careers.
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MetsAreBack : 7/2/2018 3:13 pm : link
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What a kick in the balls to the Mets if Harvey ended up helping the Yanks to a title, huh?


Not really, I've become completely desensitized to all things Mets. When we're competitive in another 10 years I'm sure they'll hurt me again but once you've experienced the Benitez subway series meltdown 2000, Beltran Take, the 2007 Collapse, and the eerily similar to 2000 game 1 blown save + the 9th inning error to lose the 2015 WS... this ain't bothering us in the slightest.
Sonny Gray's problems are not his "stuff"  
arniefez : 7/2/2018 3:54 pm : link
unless stuff means the six inches between his ears.

As has been pointed out the Yankees have young pitchers who have thrown very limited innings in their careers and they have several pitchers in AA and AAA that will need to be added to the 40 man roster or left exposed to the rule 5 draft and there are a few position players they might need to protect too.

They are going to make trades for pitchers. My guess would be that they will be mid to back end pitchers to eat innings. That's exactly what they should do in my opinion.
How?  
Csonka : 7/2/2018 4:06 pm : link
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The Mets treated him like shit...
Dunedin81 : 11:42 am : link : reply
And while he deserved a good bit of the blame I don't think it was peculiarly a feature of NYC.


how exactly did the Mets treat him like shit???
Another fun fact  
Greg from LI : 7/2/2018 4:27 pm : link
Lefties have started 26 games against the Yankees. The Yanks have hit them to the tune of .266/.339/.524.
BTW  
Greg from LI : 7/2/2018 4:31 pm : link
Someone in the RAB comments says Boone just told reporters that Loaisiga's inning limit is around 100.
Maybe we could trade Gray for Harvey straight up  
DennyInDenville : 7/2/2018 4:34 pm : link
Use our middling 40 man rule 5 eligible guys we need to get rid of to add an extra reliver and send Shreeve packing

Otherwise I pass on Harvey, but if we can swap Gray for Harvey , sign me up!

Let's kill the Braves tonight!
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arcarsenal : 7/2/2018 4:35 pm : link
I'm guessing Boone is counting the 45 innings Lasagna tossed in Tampa/Trenton, right?

So that puts him around 60 and means he's probably only got like 7-8 starts left unless they want to use him as a reliever. But I haven't seen anything regarding that.
OK, here's the actual quote  
Greg from LI : 7/2/2018 4:37 pm : link

Jack Curry Verified account@JackCurryYES
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Boone said he believes Loaisiga can give the Yankees "north of 100 innings" this season. But he wouldn't specify an innings total for the young pitcher who threw only 45 1/3 innings in the minors last season.
I'm probably dreaming  
TJ : 7/2/2018 4:38 pm : link
but I'm still hoping Sheffield can make the jump this year to reliable back end starter. Or maybe even Rogers? But Rogers may have the earnings limitless as Loaisiga.
Also from Curry  
Greg from LI : 7/2/2018 4:38 pm : link
The Yanks have signed Sevy's little brother, Rafael Severino. He's already 19, so don't hold your breath.
Sheffield and Rogers will both have to be added to the 40 man  
arniefez : 7/2/2018 4:47 pm : link
to be called up. Not impossible but still an organizational issue. I think they're only at 39 right now and Montgomery could be moved to the 60 to open another temporary spot.
Sheff will have to be added anyway...  
Dunedin81 : 7/2/2018 4:59 pm : link
Rogers is a candidate for either a call-up, a pre-Rule V trade, or both.
RE: RE: A horrible idea  
chopperhatch : 7/2/2018 5:11 pm : link
In comment 14004667 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 14004655 PaulN said:


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Worst idea I have heard. Just keep the young guys in there before we get that guy who has nothing left in the tank, it's not about handling New York, that talk is for morons. it is about his stuff, Sonny Gray does not have the stuff to win in this division, that is why he struggles, not because he can't handle new York, he struggles with his interviews because he can't handle New York. He does not have a put away pitch anymore, and neither does Harvey. He is where he belongs.



Most of this is completely off-base.


PaulN is one of the dumbest posters on BBI arc. I bet he even talks like the FleckthTheale guy.
He's far from dumb and there's enough personal bashing  
arniefez : 7/2/2018 5:18 pm : link
in the real world. No need to get personal he just looks at the game a different way. So do I sometimes. Everyone is allowed to consume their entertainment in a way that entertains them no? If we all agreed and said the same thing all the time how would that be fun?

I have my favorites and I have players that I don't want to root for too. If it was up to me I'd trade Gary Sanchez for a #2 pitcher. Is that smart? Probably not in baseball terms but I wouldn't have to watch Posada 2.0 chase balls to the back stop for the next 10 years.

Sorry for the rant. Done for the day.
Posada 2.0?  
bigbluehoya : 7/2/2018 5:22 pm : link
That would be just awful, wouldn’t it?

JFC.

Birds of a feather, I guess.
Posada 1.0 has four rings  
Greg from LI : 7/2/2018 5:24 pm : link
So yeah, good call Randal!
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arcarsenal : 7/2/2018 5:29 pm : link
I mean, he's obviously free to his opinion - but Sonny Gray's issue isn't his stuff, the young guys have innings limits, so we can't just "leave them in there" otherwise the rotation will be quite short come October, and lastly, the interviews stuff makes no sense.

SHRUG....
RE: RE: A horrible idea  
chopperhatch : 7/2/2018 5:30 pm : link
In comment 14004667 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 14004655 PaulN said:


Quote:


Worst idea I have heard. Just keep the young guys in there before we get that guy who has nothing left in the tank, it's not about handling New York, that talk is for morons. it is about his stuff, Sonny Gray does not have the stuff to win in this division, that is why he struggles, not because he can't handle new York, he struggles with his interviews because he can't handle New York. He does not have a put away pitch anymore, and neither does Harvey. He is where he belongs.



Most of this is completely off-base.


PaulN is one of the dumbest posters on BBI arc. I bet he even talks like the FleckthTheale guy.
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arcarsenal : 7/2/2018 5:54 pm : link
So nice, he said it twice! :)
Brian Cashman has doomed the Yankees because  
Hsilwek92 : 7/2/2018 6:05 pm : link
he fleeced too many teams in trades - PaulN
So, the Yanks signed Severino's brother?  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/2/2018 6:07 pm : link
Haven't read through this thread, so don't kill me if it's already been discussed:
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RE: He's far from dumb and there's enough personal bashing  
DennyInDenville : 7/2/2018 6:22 pm : link
In comment 14004868 arniefez said:
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in the real world. No need to get personal he just looks at the game a different way. So do I sometimes. Everyone is allowed to consume their entertainment in a way that entertains them no? If we all agreed and said the same thing all the time how would that be fun?

I have my favorites and I have players that I don't want to root for too. If it was up to me I'd trade Gary Sanchez for a #2 pitcher. Is that smart? Probably not in baseball terms but I wouldn't have to watch Posada 2.0 chase balls to the back stop for the next 10 years.

Sorry for the rant. Done for the day.

That's a really good post, it's very true folks! Lots of real world drama, BBI is supposed to be an escape.. if somebody says something really stupid, it's much better for everyone reading the site to ignore it or address it without personal vitriol at the least. In my opinion. The only people who are catered to when insults happen are the very group of people doing most of the insults.

Great rant bro.

Let's play ball.
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