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NFT: DeMarcus Cousins signs with the Warriors

BigBlue4You09 : 7/2/2018 8:35 pm
I kid you not...

“Free agent DeMarcus Cousins has agreed to a deal with the Golden State Warriors, league sources tell Yahoo.”
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santacruzom : 7/3/2018 1:16 pm : link
In comment 14005613 arcarsenal said:
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And LeBron just went to the Lakers. Who's there? Lonzo Ball, Ingram, Kuzma and Deng? Wow.. what a super team. At least he's trying to beat Golden State instead of find a way to join them.


By May 2019, when the Warriors tear the Lakers apart in a playoff series, we are going to see people claim that LeBron is not up to par with Jordan and suggest that those players you mentioned are of the same caliber (maybe even better!) than Jordan's supporting cast was. I guaran-damn-tee it.
LBJ  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/3/2018 1:30 pm : link
renegading on the Lakers & signing elsewhere would be LOL. Of course there's no chance of it happening, but I think the Internet would seriously break if it did.
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giants#1 : 7/3/2018 2:14 pm : link
In comment 14005613 arcarsenal said:
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And LeBron just went to the Lakers. Who's there? Lonzo Ball, Ingram, Kuzma and Deng? Wow.. what a super team. At least he's trying to beat Golden State instead of find a way to join them.


I don't know, I bet if the Warriors or Rockets were able to offer LeBron ~$25M he signs with one of them over the Lakers.
Lebron trying to "beat them rather than join them" is a bit of a joke.  
SeanLandeta : 7/3/2018 2:27 pm : link
Rumor has it Lebron reached out to KD to try and get him to the Lakers so he's far from absolved. If the Warriors players were in LA, he'd be joining them with that full LeBron grin.

I don't blame him for trying to recruit solid players - especially when there is so much else to blame him for. It's fun that he's on the Lakers now - a guy I've always detested joins a team I love to hate - perfect combination.

Also, the '08 Celts were built by Danny Ainge, the way it's "supposed" to be - not one of the players. The players forming their own team situation did start with Lebron and Miami.
No, the '08 Celtics were built by Kevin McHale  
Greg from LI : 7/3/2018 2:40 pm : link
giving his old team a sweetheart deal
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arcarsenal : 7/3/2018 2:48 pm : link
In comment 14005677 santacruzom said:
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In comment 14005613 arcarsenal said:


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And LeBron just went to the Lakers. Who's there? Lonzo Ball, Ingram, Kuzma and Deng? Wow.. what a super team. At least he's trying to beat Golden State instead of find a way to join them.



By May 2019, when the Warriors tear the Lakers apart in a playoff series, we are going to see people claim that LeBron is not up to par with Jordan and suggest that those players you mentioned are of the same caliber (maybe even better!) than Jordan's supporting cast was. I guaran-damn-tee it.


Of course!
RE: Lebron trying to  
arcarsenal : 7/3/2018 2:53 pm : link
In comment 14005743 SeanLandeta said:
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Rumor has it Lebron reached out to KD to try and get him to the Lakers so he's far from absolved. If the Warriors players were in LA, he'd be joining them with that full LeBron grin.

I don't blame him for trying to recruit solid players - especially when there is so much else to blame him for. It's fun that he's on the Lakers now - a guy I've always detested joins a team I love to hate - perfect combination.

Also, the '08 Celts were built by Danny Ainge, the way it's "supposed" to be - not one of the players. The players forming their own team situation did start with Lebron and Miami.


LOL. "Rumor has it"... real solid foundation for an argument...

He's not playing with KD and the team he went to doesn't have any other superstars on it right now. So, we can either discuss reality or we can discuss rumors and hypotheticals.

LeBron has spent the majority of his career on teams with crappy supporting casts. The team he carried to the finals this year was absolutely horrid. Durant got there a whopping 1 time before he bolted and that was WITH James Harden and Russell Westbrook.

People talk about LeBron James like he's spent the last 15 years forming super teams.
arc..  
Sean : 7/3/2018 3:09 pm : link
You are a fan of all the major sports. What is your preferred structure:

NBA- soft cap but impossible to have a quick turn around

NFL- can go from worst to First with good drafting/shrewd moves. But, a hard cap makes sustainability difficult.

NHL- not entirely sure of the cap in the NHL, but there seems to be a lot of parity.

MLB- no cap.
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dep026 : 7/3/2018 3:14 pm : link
In comment 14005677 santacruzom said:
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In comment 14005613 arcarsenal said:


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And LeBron just went to the Lakers. Who's there? Lonzo Ball, Ingram, Kuzma and Deng? Wow.. what a super team. At least he's trying to beat Golden State instead of find a way to join them.



By May 2019, when the Warriors tear the Lakers apart in a playoff series, we are going to see people claim that LeBron is not up to par with Jordan and suggest that those players you mentioned are of the same caliber (maybe even better!) than Jordan's supporting cast was. I guaran-damn-tee it.


Not one person said last years cavs supporting team was better than the bulls supporting cast.
But the notion that lebron has never played with anyone is a damn joke.
RE: RE: Lebron trying to  
SeanLandeta : 7/3/2018 3:30 pm : link
In comment 14005768 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 14005743 SeanLandeta said:


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Rumor has it Lebron reached out to KD to try and get him to the Lakers so he's far from absolved. If the Warriors players were in LA, he'd be joining them with that full LeBron grin.

I don't blame him for trying to recruit solid players - especially when there is so much else to blame him for. It's fun that he's on the Lakers now - a guy I've always detested joins a team I love to hate - perfect combination.

Also, the '08 Celts were built by Danny Ainge, the way it's "supposed" to be - not one of the players. The players forming their own team situation did start with Lebron and Miami.



LOL. "Rumor has it"... real solid foundation for an argument...

He's not playing with KD and the team he went to doesn't have any other superstars on it right now. So, we can either discuss reality or we can discuss rumors and hypotheticals.

LeBron has spent the majority of his career on teams with crappy supporting casts. The team he carried to the finals this year was absolutely horrid. Durant got there a whopping 1 time before he bolted and that was WITH James Harden and Russell Westbrook.

People talk about LeBron James like he's spent the last 15 years forming super teams.


Sorry, should maybe have said it was reported - look up Lebron contacts KD if you'd like the articles - they were out there. This isn't something I made up. Maybe the reporters did, but why would you doubt the concept? KD was a free agent after opting out. We know LeBron tries to team up with whatever talent is available. Certainly makes sense to me - you think it's more plausible he didn't try to team up with KD?

Also, you really think he would have turned down joining a team with KD, Curry, and the rest? That's a joke - if it were possible, he'd have done it. He'd welcome them to LA right now with open arms - why wouldn't he...because he'd rather beat them then join them - hilarious.

And if Lebron has spent the majority of his career with bad supporting casts - then blame Lebron. He is quite often the one pulling the strings. I'm not going to defend what KD did, but trying to defend James's actions is a tough stake to claim. I'm glad his flopping and whining to the refs will be in the West now...they can have him.
RE: No, the '08 Celtics were built by Kevin McHale  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/3/2018 3:34 pm : link
In comment 14005754 Greg from LI said:
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giving his old team a sweetheart deal


That is true.
RE: RE: No, the '08 Celtics were built by Kevin McHale  
SeanLandeta : 7/3/2018 3:40 pm : link
In comment 14005824 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 14005754 Greg from LI said:


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giving his old team a sweetheart deal



That is true.
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That was only one piece. Ainge orchestrated it from the Celts side. And even using the McHale perspective - it was a GM and not one of the players involved, which was the bigger point vs. Lebron's Miami orchestration.
Adding KG made those Celts go from  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/3/2018 3:47 pm : link
a 4 or 5 seed to the prohibitive Eastern favorites.
RE: Adding KG made those Celts go from  
SeanLandeta : 7/3/2018 3:56 pm : link
In comment 14005841 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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a 4 or 5 seed to the prohibitive Eastern favorites.


No doubt, he was the key to the title win.
Adam Silver is a joke!!!!!  
Chris L. : 7/3/2018 6:27 pm : link
Whatever happened to competitive balance? Is there anything more important for a commissioner to protect? When great players start to essentially play for way less than what they are worth because of destination the commissioner has to step in. Someone needs to remind Mr. Silver that it isn't a sport if we know who the champion is before they roll the balls out.
RE: arc..  
arcarsenal : 7/3/2018 7:32 pm : link
In comment 14005777 Sean said:
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You are a fan of all the major sports. What is your preferred structure:

NBA- soft cap but impossible to have a quick turn around

NFL- can go from worst to First with good drafting/shrewd moves. But, a hard cap makes sustainability difficult.

NHL- not entirely sure of the cap in the NHL, but there seems to be a lot of parity.

MLB- no cap.


Every system has its flaws - I think the players have way too much power in baseball. Fully gtd. contracts, money that is completely absurd and keeps getting even crazier, etc. Teams are placing more value now on international scouting and signing IFA's - there's a ton of talent coming from kids over there. Teams are placing a premium on young talent now probably more than ever - a lot of the teams spending big money on FA's are regretting those contracts.

My issue with the NFL deals is the opposite. Players don't have enough power there and in a sport where you can literally get killed on the field, I think it's absurd how little some of these guys can actually make relative to their contract numbers - especially compared to what baseball and basketball players get.

The NBA just feels like a fucking free-for-all with mid-level exceptions, Bird Rights, "SUPERMAN" contracts, max contracts, supermax contracts, etc - this is all complete overkill and there are way, way too many exceptions and bullshit things that create loopholes. Trying to read through the NBA CBA is like reading War and Peace. There needs to be a more rigid cap structure.

I actually like the NHL structure. Aside from the fact that I don't think players are fairly compensated (the best of the best players get like ~10M per year which is nowhere near what they're getting in other sports) but I think the NHL structure actually works pretty well and keeps a good competitive balance across the league. The cap has continued to rise each year, which is good. It's not a perfect structure, but I think the playing field is pretty level and there's really no way to manipulate the cap to ice some ridiculously unfair team.

The best way to build a sustainable contender in the NHL is really to draft well, have a solid pipeline of young talent and make smart vet signings to supplement it.

So, while I don't think any system is perfect, I actually think the NHL's structure provides the best competitive balance overall.

The SCF this past year was sort of a microcosm of why I like the league even though I was really against seeing Vegas win as an expansion team in year one. The NHL did a bad job with that, the team shouldnt have been that good in year one. But beyond that, you had a team with an elite superstar player in Ovechkin going against the Golden Knights - it was sort of like extremes in opposite directions, but that's what I like about the NHL. The best players often win, but they also lose and it is absolutely not a foregone conclusion whatsoever that any one team will get to the Finals. It's hard to even predict right before the playoffs start.

I know most NBA fans generally don't like hockey - but that's just my 0.02.
I find this hard to believe  
BigBlue4You09 : 7/3/2018 7:47 pm : link
Demarcus Cousins reportedly gave the Lakers a chance to sign him at the mid-level exception before the Warriors, but they said no, per @TheSteinLine.
RE: Adam Silver is a joke!!!!!  
UConn4523 : 7/3/2018 7:59 pm : link
In comment 14005996 Chris L. said:
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Whatever happened to competitive balance? Is there anything more important for a commissioner to protect? When great players start to essentially play for way less than what they are worth because of destination the commissioner has to step in. Someone needs to remind Mr. Silver that it isn't a sport if we know who the champion is before they roll the balls out.


Adam Silver is probably the best commissioner in sports. He’s already said it’s a problem and is looking for ways to fix it. He can’t just eradicate the CBA, this won’t change over night. You are mad at the wrong person.
RE: I find this hard to believe  
christian : 7/3/2018 8:43 pm : link
In comment 14006037 BigBlue4You09 said:
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Demarcus Cousins reportedly gave the Lakers a chance to sign him at the mid-level exception before the Warriors, but they said no, per @TheSteinLine.


Cousins is a known pain and is coming off a major injury. Everyone is wrapped up in the name and the obsession with the Warriors. The market pretty clearly spoke -- he's a prove it type player as of now. The Warriors didn't sprinkle "screw the league" fairy dust, they are taking a risk on a risky situation because they can.
Jimmy Buckets wants out of Minny.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/3/2018 8:51 pm : link
Here we go...
RE: Jimmy Buckets wants out of Minny.  
dep026 : 7/3/2018 9:06 pm : link
In comment 14006095 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Here we go...


The Thibs effect. Thibs should have been fired at the end of the season.
This thread has been absolutely hilarious  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 7/4/2018 9:58 am : link
I've never seen more "holier than though" hypocritical fans in my life.

The purpose of sports is to win. I'd an athlete wants to take less money, rehabilitate his image and win a championship... Good on him. Why should he take a deal on a shitty team... Because you think he should?

The competitive balance is alive and well in the NBA (except for Golden State). There are tons of good teams in the NBA. The Rockets should have won the series with GSW. The cap is one of the better salary caps in all of sports... And it's the most player friendly. The reason that some people perceive theiir not being a competitive balance... Is because NBA teams over pay for average players and are in salary cap jail. Just like my Miami Heat. Overpayed Whiteside's subpar ass... Now they can't sign anyone.

To be the man... You have beat the man. And all other teams haven't figured it out how to beat GSW yet. It's okay. One day they will. Enjoy watching a real dynasty before your eyes.
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arcarsenal : 7/4/2018 10:06 am : link
The competitive balance is "alive and well in the NBA" ?

And you think everyone else's comments were "hilarious"?

LOL.
Tim  
UConn4523 : 7/4/2018 10:19 am : link
brutal post by someone who seems holier than thou...interesting.

And no there isn’t a competitive balance. Take away GS and all it’s players and it’s still down to 2 or 3 teams only. If it enjoy the nba in its current form that’s great, but it’s hilarious that you can’t fathtom my many people don’t share your views.
I would say that the competive balance  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 7/4/2018 10:20 am : link
in the AFC is worse than the NBA. The Patriots have been to 10 Super Bowls in 16 years and I can't remember the last time they Didn't win their division. How about baseball? Where either you pay to win... Or you tank to win. Yeah. That's really competitive.

10 out of 15 teams in the west had a winning record. The league is littered with superstars. Outside of GSW... The NBA is very competitive.
Didn’t the NBA commissioner state himself that  
PhiPsi125 : 7/4/2018 10:25 am : link
there is a problem with competitive balance in the NBA?
RE: Didn’t the NBA commissioner state himself that  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 7/4/2018 10:30 am : link
In comment 14006333 PhiPsi125 said:
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there is a problem with competitive balance in the NBA?


Nah. He's defended it. More times than once.
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The most frustrating thing about it all is that without the  
Mike in NJ : 7/4/2018 10:33 am : link
All Star team in Golden State, there would be a lot of intrigue going into the season. Houston won the West last year, but would it really be that much of a stretch to see Chris Paul break down or just decline a bit and have either Utah, Lebron and the Lakers, Portland, or Oklahoma City finish ahead of them? Even beyond them, could this be the year the Timberwolves make a leap (maybe not with all of the Butler drama) or Jokic and the Nuggets?

Then you have the wide open East, yeah Boston and Philly are probably the early favorites, but how does Toronto look now with the coaching change. Could the Wizards finally live up to their potential or does Milwaukee now that they have a real coach?

All of these are just meaningless side stories now because unless something ridiculous happens, like Curry and Thompson blowing their knees out, the Warriors are going to win their 3rd straight title and 4th in 5 years.

The NBA really needs to hope that Durant is satisfied with that, and looks for a new challenge after this season. There has been a lot of talk from multiple guys that follow the league about a Knicks/Durant union, the NBA has to be just salivating at that possibility. Talk about competitive balance, you would have legit contenders in New York, Boston, Philly, Golden State, LA, and Houston, some of the biggest markets in the country.
RE: I would say that the competive balance  
BigBlueShock : 7/4/2018 10:33 am : link
In comment 14006329 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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in the AFC is worse than the NBA. The Patriots have been to 10 Super Bowls in 16 years and I can't remember the last time they Didn't win their division. How about baseball? Where either you pay to win... Or you tank to win. Yeah. That's really competitive.

10 out of 15 teams in the west had a winning record. The league is littered with superstars. Outside of GSW... The NBA is very competitive.

You may want to do some research on baseball and how many different teams have won a World Series in the past couple of decades...
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arcarsenal : 7/4/2018 10:34 am : link
The Patriots are anomalous and not at all symbolic of the NFL. What they're doing now is never going to happen again.

By the way, they just lost the Super Bowl to a backup QB in case you forgot.
RE: RE: Didn’t the NBA commissioner state himself that  
PhiPsi125 : 7/4/2018 10:41 am : link
In comment 14006336 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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there is a problem with competitive balance in the NBA?



Nah. He's defended it. More times than once. Link - ( New Window )


Not quite...he certainly recognizes it’s an issue in a much more recent article from a couple of days ago with a Golden State beat writer. Don’t know how to link the article from my phone but a simple google search will bring it up.
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Mike in NJ : 7/4/2018 10:43 am : link
In comment 14006341 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 14006329 Tim in Eternal Blue said:


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in the AFC is worse than the NBA. The Patriots have been to 10 Super Bowls in 16 years and I can't remember the last time they Didn't win their division. How about baseball? Where either you pay to win... Or you tank to win. Yeah. That's really competitive.

10 out of 15 teams in the west had a winning record. The league is littered with superstars. Outside of GSW... The NBA is very competitive.


You may want to do some research on baseball and how many different teams have won a World Series in the past couple of decades...


In the last 10 years alone, 8 different teams have won the World Series. The National League has had 6 different teams represent them in the Series, the AL has had 8. I don't know how that could be considered non-competitive.
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Tim in Eternal Blue : 7/4/2018 10:45 am : link
In comment 14006343 arcarsenal said:
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The Patriots are anomalous and not at all symbolic of the NFL. What they're doing now is never going to happen again.

By the way, they just lost the Super Bowl to a backup QB in case you forgot.


That takes away from their dominance since 2001. Okay
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arcarsenal : 7/4/2018 10:52 am : link
Again, the Patriots are an anomaly. What they've done has never been done before and will never be done again. It's not a result of structural issues with the league whatsoever. They wound up with the best HC/QB combo in the history of the sport. How often do you think that's going to happen in the future?

If you really believe the NFL has a competitive balance issue but think it's "good" in the NBA, I don't know what to tell you other than that your opinion is absolutely absurd.
I was making a comparison. The AFC (which blows) and the NBA  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 7/4/2018 10:59 am : link
The NBA has always had dynasties. Celtics, Bulls, Lakers, Warriors ect. I think it's absurd to admonish these players and teams for trying to win.

My point with baseball was... The teams that win either pay or they tank. Astros, Cubs and Royals all tanked for 4-7 years before they had their 1-2 seasons. Royals are back to tanking. That's not "competitive". I think 8 teams are tanking this year? That's a quarter of the league. How is that competitive?
RE: I was making a comparison. The AFC (which blows) and the NBA  
Mike in NJ : 7/4/2018 11:03 am : link
In comment 14006370 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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The NBA has always had dynasties. Celtics, Bulls, Lakers, Warriors ect. I think it's absurd to admonish these players and teams for trying to win.

My point with baseball was... The teams that win either pay or they tank. Astros, Cubs and Royals all tanked for 4-7 years before they had their 1-2 seasons. Royals are back to tanking. That's not "competitive". I think 8 teams are tanking this year? That's a quarter of the league. How is that competitive?


If your goal is to have zero bad teams, that is never going to happen. Regardless of what the system is, there will always be good teams and bad, the idea of parity is that it is not the same teams every year. I also don't really know what your example is trying to prove. You're saying there are two ways to win in baseball, either spend money or build through the farm and take your lumps while the young guys develop. Well yeah, what other alternative would there be, how is that a bad thing?
People are getting too caught up with the decisions made by the player  
eclipz928 : 7/4/2018 11:04 am : link
and not giving enough credit to the organization itself. The Warriors essentially built a championship team from scratch - mostly with drafted players, acquisitions of role players who fit the scheme, and of course the right head coach. And that's how they attracted the big name talents.

The competitive balance in the NBA will fix itself once other franchises figure out how to duplicate that process and build their own teams organically. At this point that may take a while, but we gotta stop faulting players who just want to go somewhere that gives them a chance of winning.

The NFL is a great example because it used to be like this - unbalanced and no parity. It's not like that anymore. On a regular basis teams go from being on the bottom of their division to rising to the top. The Patriots' dominance is the exception, but that's more of a credit to the historic level of greatness of Bill Belichick and Tom Brady than it is an indictment of the NFL or AFC.
RE: I was making a comparison. The AFC (which blows) and the NBA  
arcarsenal : 7/4/2018 11:06 am : link
In comment 14006370 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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The NBA has always had dynasties. Celtics, Bulls, Lakers, Warriors ect. I think it's absurd to admonish these players and teams for trying to win.

My point with baseball was... The teams that win either pay or they tank. Astros, Cubs and Royals all tanked for 4-7 years before they had their 1-2 seasons. Royals are back to tanking. That's not "competitive". I think 8 teams are tanking this year? That's a quarter of the league. How is that competitive?


So, you're arguing that baseball is not competitive because teams like the Royals are taking - but think the competitive balance in the NBA is fine and dandy despite the fact that tanking is probably MOST prevalent in basketball and has even been acknowledged as an issue by the commissioner.

Do I have that right?
I get what you are saying  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 7/4/2018 11:07 am : link
Maybe my idea of "competitive" is different.
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arcarsenal : 7/4/2018 11:09 am : link
And a lot of those teams aren't "tanking," they just suck. Are there not going to be bad teams in a 30 team league? I don't really understand what you're looking for. A league of 30 teams hovering around .500?

Tanking in baseball isn't quite as rewarding as it is in the NBA, either. The draft and team structures are very different.

Getting a LeBron James automatically makes you a contender. The Nationals still haven't won a playoff series despite having Harper, Strasburg and then signing the best pitcher in the NL in Scherzer. There's quite a difference.
My comment  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 7/4/2018 11:11 am : link
Was for Mike. Agree to disagree with Arc
I’m still trying to figure out how you think  
UConn4523 : 7/4/2018 11:20 am : link
the nba is competitive. Taking GS out of it you have Houston, OKC since Paul is staying, Boston, Philly and the Lakers. Over 3/4 of the league literally has a 0% chance at a title...0%.

Are we watching the same thing?
And in addition to that  
UConn4523 : 7/4/2018 11:30 am : link
most of he league won’t be able to piece together a good team under the current rules so these same teams will likely be the same over the next few years (give/take a team or two when the stars jump ship to a new city).
RE: I’m still trying to figure out how you think  
widmerseyebrow : 7/4/2018 11:34 am : link
In comment 14006397 UConn4523 said:
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the nba is competitive. Taking GS out of it you have Houston, OKC since Paul is staying, Boston, Philly and the Lakers. Over 3/4 of the league literally has a 0% chance at a title...0%.

Are we watching the same thing?


6 teams that have an actual shot at the title. That's not new for the NBA.

On the other hand, a league where the bottom 1/2 has a shot at the title would not be a product I'd be interested in watching if it means some kind of artificial even distribution of talent.

The ratings say otherwise but the season length and playoff format are a bore to me. I don't know how you fix that without taking games away from the revenue stream to boost the stakes.
I don’t care if it isn’t new for the nba  
UConn4523 : 7/4/2018 11:39 am : link
it’s 2018, which is what matters. And I was being kind in my previous post as I really only think 3 teams have a shot, but I added a few others who will be in the mix but ultimately will fall short. In reality it’s about a 4 team league.
Outside of the Pats..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/4/2018 12:10 pm : link
the AFC has rotated out more than half of their playoff teams 5 times just in this decade.

Heck, last year you had the Jags, Titans and Bills making the playoffs. Since 2010, Every team but the Browns has made the playoffs.

If a poster is going to call people "holier than thou", it is usually fucking nice if they at least present an opinion that has some strong facts to back it up.

Out of all the sports, the NFL has the most turnover in playoff teams - the AFC too.
RE: Outside of the Pats..  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 7/4/2018 12:35 pm : link
In comment 14006432 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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the AFC has rotated out more than half of their playoff teams 5 times just in this decade.

Heck, last year you had the Jags, Titans and Bills making the playoffs. Since 2010, Every team but the Browns has made the playoffs.

If a poster is going to call people "holier than thou", it is usually fucking nice if they at least present an opinion that has some strong facts to back it up.

Out of all the sports, the NFL has the most turnover in playoff teams - the AFC too.


Every team in the NBA has made the playoffs in the past 6 years except Sacramento and Phoenix . 28 out of 30 teams. What the fuck is your point
Making the playoffs in the NBA  
UConn4523 : 7/4/2018 12:39 pm : link
is 16 teams, 12 or 13 of which have a 0% chance of winning a title. In the NFL we see wild card teams winning the SB, how the fuck is this even comparable?

You are doing a miserable job defending your POV.
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christian : 7/4/2018 12:59 pm : link
The infallibility of the Warriors is a little inflated. They will rely on a declining Iguodala going into his 15th year in the league, Cousins coming off a major injury and potentially not available until January, Curry showing injury vulnerability, and Durant missing a chunk of time for the 3rd out of 4th year.

They are still far and away the most talented, and arguably well coached team in the NBA. But they also got pushed to the max by Houston, and who knows what happens if Paul plays game 7.

It's not like they signed LeBron James. They signed Cousins, who from his own lips was not garnering a ton of interest because of his injury.

The Rockets, Celtics, Lakers, 6ers all have the athletes to push the Warriors.
Warriors also dealt with an injured Curry and Iggy  
UConn4523 : 7/4/2018 1:02 pm : link
which is really the only reason why the WCF was close. I can’t say Iggy won’t get injured again but Curry should be fully healthy.
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