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NFT: Serious question: How do you cope?

tbonfig : 7/3/2018 11:07 am
Note the NFT.

Throughout the years I've started to ask myself this question more and more. I am the father of two little girls. I think being a parent changes your perspective on most things. I have found that as I have gotten older, I seem to have a more difficult time shaking the bad news that I come across, particularly when it involves children. For example, this morning I saw a headline that a three year old girl was killed in a mass stabbing incident at a birthday party in Boise. My heart starts breaking and I need to quickly move on and numb myself by looking at some asinine meme online to get a quick laugh and forget.

Regardless of your political affiliation, I think everyone can agree these feel like turbulent times in the world. When I see the latest headlines, I have developed a strong feeling of apathy that I feel has grown more recently. I used to get fired up about certain issues, felt passionately, etc., but more and more, I just can't get myself to care about certain things that are out of my control.

So how do you cope? I know I'm not the only one that gets affected by tragic headlines, but when you see something like that, how do you handle it?
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I feel similarly, but without the kids  
JonC : 7/3/2018 11:15 am : link
in my later 40s it feels part mid-life crisis part apathy watching our leaders suck badly, in addition to too much work and not enough play or positive changes these days. I try to focus on the positives and all the good life gives me, a more simple view and outlook. Doesn't always help me for sure but a lot of it is mental.
Literature, baseball and booze (in moderation)...  
Dunedin81 : 7/3/2018 11:17 am : link
Stimulation, distraction, and numbing, in that order.
I avoid horrible stories involving children  
Greg from LI : 7/3/2018 11:18 am : link
I have always had true crime stories as a guilty pleasure of mine, but ever since my kids were born I can't watch or read anything that details the murder, abuse, etc of children. Just can't do it anymore.
I hate to sound cold here..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/3/2018 11:19 am : link
but you seriously need help coping with tragic headlines??
RE: I hate to sound cold here..  
tbonfig : 7/3/2018 11:21 am : link
In comment 14005536 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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but you seriously need help coping with tragic headlines??


FMiC. How do these things affect you? I'm not saying that I lock myself in the room and won't leave for days, but this shit stays with me for a while and really messes me up thinking about the tragic and evil things out there.

How do you handle it? Just read it and move on? If it doesn't bother you, any insight as to why? Do you not weight the gravity of what people go through?
I realize the world is sometimes a shitty place  
pjcas18 : 7/3/2018 11:22 am : link
and shitty things happen to people who don't deserve it.

I hug my kids every day (even the 16 year olds), show them as much love as I can while still being a parent not a friend, and try my best to instill values in them to make them good people and ideally provide for them a better life than I had.

(and to be honest I make mistakes as a parent all the time)

People can only control what they can control (maybe cliched, but true).
JonC/Duned  
tbonfig : 7/3/2018 11:23 am : link
Yeah, it is tough. I worry sometimes that just moving on and distracting myself is doing a disservice to the people involved but when things are out of your control, what can you do? I can't help that little three year old girl that died. I can't help the family, but it makes me just think how lucky some of us when these tragedies don't occur to us.
Any time I get blue about anything  
Go Terps : 7/3/2018 11:23 am : link
I tell myself there are more stars in the known universe than there are grains of sand on earth. I find our collective irrelevance comforting.
RE: I realize the world is sometimes a shitty place  
tbonfig : 7/3/2018 11:24 am : link
In comment 14005541 pjcas18 said:
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and shitty things happen to people who don't deserve it.

I hug my kids every day (even the 16 year olds), show them as much love as I can while still being a parent not a friend, and try my best to instill values in them to make them good people and ideally provide for them a better life than I had.

(and to be honest I make mistakes as a parent all the time)

People can only control what they can control (maybe cliched, but true).


Thanks pj - nice to see you responding. I do the same things with my girls. Really makes those nights where they wake you up much easier to deal with.
I don't watch the news or any of the other 24 hour news channels  
spike : 7/3/2018 11:25 am : link
Yahoo headlines usually give a good glimpse of the day's stories.

People generally delve into a good TV series or movies to avoid the horrid reality that we live in.

I would have died before letting that madman hurt that 3 year old, who's having her birthday party. WTF
RE: Any time I get blue about anything  
tbonfig : 7/3/2018 11:25 am : link
In comment 14005544 Go Terps said:
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I tell myself there are more stars in the known universe than there are grains of sand on earth. I find our collective irrelevance comforting.


GT

Funny, I started getting more into looking at photos of outer space and the Milky Way and things like that to try to keep things into perspective. I agree that it helps minimize some of the impact when you try and think how inconsequential all of this in the end.
I'm kind of in the same boat.  
Brown Recluse : 7/3/2018 11:26 am : link
Early 40's with two kids.

I've recently gotten into fishing and enjoy doing that on Saturday mornings with my son. Its nice to disconnect from all the bullshit that gets shoved down our throats (especially on social media) and just enjoy some peace and quiet outside. Always makes me feel better.

Maybe fishing isn't your thing, but just find something to do that doesn't involve television or Facebook.
I don’t let it phase me to be honest  
UConn4523 : 7/3/2018 11:26 am : link
Stuff like this hits my wife hard and understandably so. But I can’t let it bother me, I need to just think positively when it comes to my daughter and all the awful shit out there. I hug her more and take a few extra minutes with her on those frustrating days to just appreciate what we have.

The other factor is I don’t read, watch, or listen to the news. Outside of some Francesca I don’t listen to anything. Maybe I’m less informed because of it, but I’d argue my quality of life has increased since I stopped following all the garbage.
I don't really..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/3/2018 11:26 am : link
dwell on things I can't control.

It is tough enough with my own kids. My daughter just went to Disney with 3 friends. Drove from Charlotte. I kept texting asking how things are going, but I can't just be a nervous wreck the entire time. The alternative is to not let my kids live their lives.

Bad things can happen, and when they do - to my kids, I'll worry about it then. I don't have the time, energy or even care to worry about things I have no power over.

And I'll say this - part of the issue we have as a society today is people reading headlines and having severe reactions. It leads to a lot of hyper-exaggeration and knee-jerk responses based on nothing other than a report. Absolutely ridiculous.
RE: I'm kind of in the same boat.  
spike : 7/3/2018 11:27 am : link
In comment 14005551 Brown Recluse said:
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Early 40's with two kids.

I've recently gotten into fishing and enjoy doing that on Saturday mornings with my son. Its nice to disconnect from all the bullshit that gets shoved down our throats (especially on social media) and just enjoy some peace and quiet outside. Always makes me feel better.

Maybe fishing isn't your thing, but just find something to do that doesn't involve television or Facebook.


Yep I don't use Facebook (all BS), Twitter, or Instagram that youngsters are all into.
RE: I realize the world is sometimes a shitty place  
figgy2989 : 7/3/2018 11:27 am : link
In comment 14005541 pjcas18 said:
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and shitty things happen to people who don't deserve it.

I hug my kids every day (even the 16 year olds), show them as much love as I can while still being a parent not a friend, and try my best to instill values in them to make them good people and ideally provide for them a better life than I had.

(and to be honest I make mistakes as a parent all the time)

People can only control what they can control (maybe cliched, but true).


pj, this is a great post. My boys are only 1 and 3 and I definitely look at the world differently now than I did say 5 or 6 years ago. I want to make sure I teach my sons value and provide for them the best that I can. That is really the only thing we can control. I do not envy parents with older children who start asking questions about what they see on the news. For now, I will enjoy the Thomas the Train episodes and Monster Jam re-runs we have on DVR.
Bill Gates  
Go Terps : 7/3/2018 11:33 am : link
Gates just recently made some compelling arguments that the human condition has never been better, and continues to improve.
Link - ( New Window )
RE: I don't really..  
tbonfig : 7/3/2018 11:36 am : link
In comment 14005554 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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And I'll say this - part of the issue we have as a society today is people reading headlines and having severe reactions. It leads to a lot of hyper-exaggeration and knee-jerk responses based on nothing other than a report. Absolutely ridiculous.


Agree about this part. Social media is a huge driver behind this as well due to anonymous mob mentality.
Use the old  
Joey in VA : 7/3/2018 11:36 am : link
Conservation adage, "Think globally, act locally". The world is full of shit, you can't avoid it and it will make you feel a certain way. No what anyone here says you are 100% entitled to your feelings. What you do with them matters though, do you turn to your kids and just enjoy that you have them or dwell on the world at large? Turn your focus inward on your own tribe and their world and take solace that you're a caring person and do your best for them and for you. Pay attention to the bad stuff, it's important to know what dangers exist but then turn to your crew and love them as much as you can.
RE: Bill Gates  
Dunedin81 : 7/3/2018 11:42 am : link
In comment 14005567 Go Terps said:
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Gates just recently made some compelling arguments that the human condition has never been better, and continues to improve. Link - ( New Window )


Steve Pinker has been saying that for awhile, and yet overdose deaths are at all-time highs, increasing percentages of respondents are incredibly pessimistic about the future, and people rely on therapy and psychotropic drugs to combat a lack of perceived meaning in life.
Lots of good points  
mushroom : 7/3/2018 11:45 am : link
Mine are exercise , control what you can control. Look for the good news stories, limit your exposure to social media and the news(exceptBBI). Realize while there is evil there is also good.
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arcarsenal : 7/3/2018 11:45 am : link
I barely watch the news. All it does is bum me out. I don't think people should live under rocks and have no idea what's going on in the outside world. But I do think that sometimes the best thing you can do is focus on the family and important people in your own life.

People spend so much time buried in their phones scrolling endlessly through newsfeeds of other people's lives and ventures, etc. Sometimes you just need to forget about all of that and worry about nothing other than what's in front of you and what you're directly responsible for.
More access = more negative response driven stories..  
Sean : 7/3/2018 11:47 am : link
Are things that much worse now than 50 years ago or so? Or are we all just exposed to way more shit than the human brain can handle? Negative news sells, positive stories do not.

When bad shit happens though, notice how many more people are rallying together, attending vigils & doing good things. There are a lot.
Also, mindfulness..  
Sean : 7/3/2018 11:50 am : link
We have precious time on earth, enjoy the present moment as opposed to dwelling on things outside of your control.
RE: RE: Bill Gates  
widmerseyebrow : 7/3/2018 11:54 am : link
In comment 14005575 Dunedin81 said:
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In comment 14005567 Go Terps said:


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Gates just recently made some compelling arguments that the human condition has never been better, and continues to improve. Link - ( New Window )



Steve Pinker has been saying that for awhile, and yet overdose deaths are at all-time highs, increasing percentages of respondents are incredibly pessimistic about the future, and people rely on therapy and psychotropic drugs to combat a lack of perceived meaning in life.


There have been studies that show that negative news travels faster and farther in our increasingly connected world. That type of echo chamber has to be making our mental state worse than it should be.
I do my fair share of weed smokings here and there  
Aqua Giants : 7/3/2018 11:56 am : link
I am 42. I have three girls. I hate being married. So boring. I wish I was 24.

I wish I had a son so I can do some fun boy stuff with him. Instead I get dancing and annoying pop music played in my house every day (Demi Lovato)
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/3/2018 11:57 am : link
I try to limit my news intake, which is very hard because I like to be informed about what's going on in the world. But for my stress/anxiety, I sometimes have to tune out. I also don't hate 'hate watch' certain programs anymore either. It was only riling me up.
I need to catch myself..  
Sean : 7/3/2018 12:00 pm : link
bc I constantly scroll twitter and get upset when I see something negative. Pretty stupid isn’t it?
RE: I do my fair share of weed smokings here and there  
figgy2989 : 7/3/2018 12:04 pm : link
In comment 14005598 Aqua Giants said:
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I am 42. I have three girls. I hate being married. So boring. I wish I was 24.

I wish I had a son so I can do some fun boy stuff with him. Instead I get dancing and annoying pop music played in my house every day (Demi Lovato)


If there was ever a question about which troll this could possibly be, I think we have an answer.
The worlds been full of awful shit since the Earth began to cool  
mfsd : 7/3/2018 12:08 pm : link
Anyone think things were all peaches and cream for the average person living in Ancient Greece or Ancient Rome? Or Europe in the Middle Ages?

The only difference is we see all the awful shit reported immediately via the instant news cycle.

Watch less news. Spend less time on the internet and social media. Enjoy time with family and friends more. Exercise, get outside and enjoy nature. Call an old friend you haven’t talked to in a while. Try a new hobby or activity for the first time. Write a gratitude list. Smile and be nice to a stranger for no reason. Do something good even if you’re not going to get “caught”.

And for fucks sake stop whining about how miserable the state of affairs is on Facebook or wherever.

Or, continue to let all the negative news get you down, if you see fit. After all, our free will to make these choices in our lives is the single best thing about the human condition.

RE: More access = more negative response driven stories..  
ctc in ftmyers : 7/3/2018 12:17 pm : link
In comment 14005583 Sean said:
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Are things that much worse now than 50 years ago or so? Or are we all just exposed to way more shit than the human brain can handle? Negative news sells, positive stories do not.

When bad shit happens though, notice how many more people are rallying together, attending vigils & doing good things. There are a lot.


This.
Turn off the TV and news  
Oscar : 7/3/2018 12:17 pm : link
That’s what I do. I read headlines and keep track of big stories and events but really there is nothing that requires other than reading a few articles.

I do not understand anyone who watches talking head shows on cable news, any cable news channel. Absolute nonsense, there’s no way main lining that crap is good for anyone but millions watch. My suggestion is to just opt out entirely.

Frankly that goes for talking head sports debate shows too but that’s not really in focus here.

I have tried to deliberately really scale down my TV time. I only turn it on a few days a week now and 90% of those times is to watch live sports.
one of the fundamental concepts in  
UESBLUE : 7/3/2018 12:25 pm : link
DBT (dialectical behavior therapy) is that of radical acceptance. It has changed my life, along with another cornerstone, emotion regulation. If you have a moment look it up.
I dehumanize myself from the bad  
section125 : 7/3/2018 12:29 pm : link
and regale in the positive. Look at the Thai story and the missing kids in the flooded cave. That will easily overcome the story of a madman stabbing kids that had nothing to do with him getting kicked out of an apartment.

My entire adult life I was separated for 1/2 the year from my family, so I built a wall and isolated my feelings. I didn't cry or mourn the death of my parents or sister - just acknowledged it and moved on. I sometimes wonder if I have become cold hearted.

If you dwell on the misery in the world, you will become paralyzed and be unable to function. Acknowledge the evil and don't dwell on it, don't empathize with it, don't embrace it, move on. Horrible things happen thousands of times each day; refugees, sex trafficking, droughts and starvation.

Acknowledge the evil, celebrate the good. The Thai kids will be going home. The Chilean miners came home. The good of the world banded together to make these happen.
Great topic  
Gregorio : 7/3/2018 12:30 pm : link
I'm 52, father of a 9 year old girl. I have to turn off the bad news on TV. It's too much. To hear about children being abused is heart wrenching.

There is one other way I cope. When Newtown CT happened, it affected me deeply. I became a gun safety advocate and I've been actively fighting that battle ever since.
I  
AcidTest : 7/3/2018 12:39 pm : link
am watching less news, which means I cope by avoiding exposure.
RE: one of the fundamental concepts in  
tbonfig : 7/3/2018 12:42 pm : link
In comment 14005633 UESBLUE said:
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DBT (dialectical behavior therapy) is that of radical acceptance. It has changed my life, along with another cornerstone, emotion regulation. If you have a moment look it up.


UES - mind some cliff notes on this?
Along with the inundation of the 24 hour news cycle...  
njm : 7/3/2018 12:43 pm : link
with 4X the number of outlets providing screaming headlines in an attempt to capture your eyes as there were 40 years ago you have social media piling on. Beyond tragedies moderation is boring, so you have extremes with respect to any and all subjects paraded before us and labelled as mainstream. Conflict draws eyeballs so you will get more conflict until it doesn't sell any more.


I think my NOT having a Twitter or Facebook account helps me keep some perspective. And it makes it easier to remember that a horrible stabbing of multiple kids at a birthday party is not happening on every other block across the country. Fortunately it's an extremely rare event.
This may seem like a ridiculous comment to make  
tbonfig : 7/3/2018 12:43 pm : link
on a message board full of randos, most of which have never met, but I really appreciate what BBI provides to me in my life. It is nice to come on here and lurk about the sports talk but then post a philosophical/life question and get responses from such a variety of posters.
RE: Any time I get blue about anything  
bceagle05 : 7/3/2018 12:45 pm : link
In comment 14005544 Go Terps said:
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I tell myself there are more stars in the known universe than there are grains of sand on earth. I find our collective irrelevance comforting.


Agree completely with this. Nature in general has the same impact on me - the ocean doesn't care about politics, conflict, violence, etc. Native Americans seem to have an understanding of these things - I've gained a real appreciation in recent years of their wisdom.
Yep, social media basically throws every bad thing that happens  
PatersonPlank : 7/3/2018 12:51 pm : link
right in your face. Its unavoidable. In the past you'd never even hear of most of this stuff. It also distorts the bad vs good, because rarely does any organization post the many good things going on. You just get the bad. I stick to sports, straight news sites (not biased/sensationalized sites), and other things I am interested in. I also just look around where I live. It helps keep things in perspective. Things are generally good out there.
A variation on Joey's  
Jay in Toronto : 7/3/2018 1:07 pm : link
with the focus on act.

I try to get involved in my community on issues that I believe are leading to the greatest social ills. More and more than means political involvement in elections etc.

I was sickened by what happened in Annapolis -- protecting journalists and a free press (regardless of the source of intimidation) has risen high on my agenda. NGOs devoted to these issues have moved up higher in my charitable giving.

Last Saturday I demonstrated outside the US Consulate voicing my concern on the border children-separation issue.

I think also focusing on what is good in your life is critical. For the last 34+ years my alarm (used to be my watch, now smartphone) rings at 10:01 which is the time my amazing daughter was born. No matter what crap might be going on, I am reminded how incredibly fortunate I am to have her in my life.

I am in a similar position  
Les in TO : 7/3/2018 1:26 pm : link
I have two young kids and see constant headlines of random violence and hatred.

How do I cope? I stay busy. I have a great career in which I'm fully engaged, take care of the kids and ensure they are busy with regular activities/birthday parties, keep the spark in my marriage going by ensuring my wife and I have date nights, taking care of my physical health by eating well, exercising and sleeping, taking care of my spiritual side by volunteering, meditating, practicing yoga and parktaking in services during Jewish holidays, have a house that is in constant need of repair or maintenance, looking after my aging and increasingly infirm parents and ensure I keep my core friendships strong while developing new friends (especially with parents of our kids). I scan the newspaper headlines in the morning, but at night, I read lighter books or biographies , so I'm not at risk of losing sleep.

In short, I live my life.
And then there are the words of wisdom  
Jay in Toronto : 7/3/2018 1:29 pm : link
imparted by non-other than Dr Ruth.


Coping with troubling news - ( New Window )
You won't find it in the headlines  
SeanLandeta : 7/3/2018 1:31 pm : link
but there are exponentially more good people and happenings in the world than there are bad. The times may seem horrible, but just think about history for a moment and you'll realize that there has almost always been great turbulence in any era - sometimes seemingly more than today - sometimes seemingly less. We are biased toward the present though and typically overinflate the current issues.

Keeping the above in mind along with my heaps of Faith mean that there is very little coping I need to do...even when there are very direct "tragedies" in my own life.
Don't watch tv  
chiro56 : 7/3/2018 1:36 pm : link
Except sports. Most of what your told really is not "news".local tragedy is programmed fear. Your being read to from a script. Walk away.
Unfortunately, in today’s society,  
Simms11 : 7/3/2018 1:39 pm : link
we have access to news at a blink of an eye. Additionally, we also see far more incidents and news from around the world too. It’s very easy to get caught up in it all. I’ve learned over the years that you can’t worry about things you can’t control. Obviously, the more significant the event the greater the coverage as well. News is depressing. When was the last time you really heard good news reported?! I do sympathize with families, but I don’t let it control my life either.
Don't focus on the negative  
Eli Wilson : 7/3/2018 1:44 pm : link
A pastor I listen to has a real good message about not focusing on the negative. It doesn't mean you bury your head in the sand, but choose to spend your mental energy focused on the good in your life.

Same goes with raising kids. My son has several "issues" at the moment, that if I focused on, would have me extremely pissed or upset. I choose to focus on the fact that he is a good kid, has a good heart and I enjoy spending time with him. It doesn't mean I don't try to correct the bad things, but I don't focus on the bad things.
grown numb to the world and humans  
micky : 7/3/2018 1:51 pm : link
none these days are good. As you can see every day in the headlines..new world

just stay numb to it and look into your own self and being. thats how to cope. not like old times

a lot cold sick heartless humans now
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Motley Two : 7/3/2018 1:57 pm : link
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