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NFT: Worst capital city?

chopperhatch : 7/5/2018 12:31 pm
Im in Trenton right now waiting on a train and this has to be it. There IS an exceptional pizza place here, but this city is poop. Hartford is close, Richmond used to be a dump in the early '00s, but Trenton is just a laugher. I would rather be in Newark than Trenton.

Anybody got challengers? Give me your worst.
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RE: Surprised Carson City, Nevada isn't at the bottom of that list  
widmerseyebrow : 7/5/2018 8:41 pm : link
In comment 14007249 widmerseyebrow said:
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Maybe the author saw Reno and thought "OK, this is far enough."


Ah it's quantitative. I guess (quality of life ranking?) But good to see it is 6th worst.
RE: Pierre South Dakota  
Boy Cord : 7/5/2018 8:46 pm : link
In comment 14006916 David in Belmont said:
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By far


LOL. I jumped on this thread just to post Pierre.
Pierre, SD  
Scott in Seattle : 7/5/2018 9:08 pm : link
The first thing that popped into my head as well... But not one, two people beat me to it! What a depressing place.
Harrisburg is pretty bad  
BestFeature : 7/6/2018 12:13 am : link
Though not sure if it's the worst. We did find a nice outside bar when I went for my friend's graduation there. But a lot of people there are such white trash. My friend is British and has traveled to 23 or 24 states plus DC (in like 4 or 5 years mind you) and he talks very highly about the south where he's been. These people were fucking backwards. This one guy kept asking him "why do you talk like that?" referring to his British accent. He heard something about British spies and was convinced he was one. To be fair he (the guy from Harrisburg) was hammered beyond belief.
RE: Oops  
BestFeature : 7/6/2018 12:20 am : link
In comment 14007006 Go Terps said:
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Way more visible here than on the *east* coast, I meant to say.


San Francisco is pretty bad too, you're right.

However, I'm not sure I've been in a city that has more homeless people than Philly. Every damn block there's someone. Most are pretty chill, some are pretty crazy though.

Philly is pretty sketchy though. I live in a "safe" part of town and someone got stabbed a couple of blocks from me and apparently the same happened the year before too.
RE: RE: Lansing, MI is pretty bad.  
Matt M. : 7/6/2018 1:03 am : link
In comment 14006962 Bill L said:
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Harrisburg, PA and Albany, NY are not great either. I’ve never spent time in Trenton aside from the train stopping on the way to NYC.

I actually really like Albany. Maybe it depends on what you want out of a city. If I were to rate cities where you had to live on the East coast (particularly the Northeast), do it affordably and safely and raise a family, and still have lot of things to keep you entertained, Albany would be near the top of my list of capitals.
I don't think we've been to the same Albany.
......  
CoughlinHandsonHips : 7/6/2018 8:22 am : link
Ogrimmar
RE: RE: RE: Lansing, MI is pretty bad.  
njm : 7/6/2018 8:46 am : link
In comment 14007278 Matt M. said:
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In comment 14006962 Bill L said:


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Harrisburg, PA and Albany, NY are not great either. I’ve never spent time in Trenton aside from the train stopping on the way to NYC.

I actually really like Albany. Maybe it depends on what you want out of a city. If I were to rate cities where you had to live on the East coast (particularly the Northeast), do it affordably and safely and raise a family, and still have lot of things to keep you entertained, Albany would be near the top of my list of capitals.

I don't think we've been to the same Albany.


I think Bill might be talking about the Capitol District more than Albany proper, and he has a point. A short commute gets you to places with good schools and, for the East Coast, low home prices. And Saratoga and SPAC is not far away.
RE: Lansing, MI is pretty bad.  
bradshaw44 : 7/6/2018 9:11 am : link
In comment 14006936 Pete in MD said:
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Harrisburg, PA and Albany, NY are not great either. I’ve never spent time in Trenton aside from the train stopping on the way to NYC.


My buddy went to Cooley Law School in Lansing, oh man, is that place a sh--hole. That place is so depressed it's crazy. The night before his graduation we went out on the town and at one point stopped in the strip club (I believe it's called abduls) and the patrons were putting coins on the stage and the girls were fighting over it. I felt so bad that I put a $20 bill on the stage before we walked out. I mean we literally walked in an out and I put it down before leaving. That was back in 2009 so maybe it's change since then, but man that was crazy.

Another interesting thing was that the capital building lights would be on in the evening and you could walk up to the windows and listen to the politicians arguing with each other. Lots of yelling going on.
RE: People tend to bitch about cities..  
bradshaw44 : 7/6/2018 9:18 am : link
In comment 14007025 Sean said:
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but more people as a whole need to do more to “help” these cities. I find this to be the biggest dose of hypocrisy when talking about whether a city is a shithole or not.

People tend to bitch about how bad a given city is and flee to a surrounding suburb while doing nothing to help the struggling city. Even something as simple as supporting a local business during the day. It takes a community to revitalize some of these areas.


You have to elect good politicians first. You don't spend time in these places that have nothing to offer when you have no reason to be there. You don't just drive in from the burbs and stop at a shop for a quick t-shirt purchase when you can stay in the burbs and go to a local store out there that is safe and affordable.
RE: ......  
Bockman : 7/6/2018 9:55 am : link
In comment 14007295 CoughlinHandsonHips said:
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Ogrimmar


I laughed at this one.
RE: RE: Lansing, MI is pretty bad.  
Pete in MD : 7/6/2018 10:00 am : link
In comment 14007320 bradshaw44 said:
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Harrisburg, PA and Albany, NY are not great either. I’ve never spent time in Trenton aside from the train stopping on the way to NYC.



My buddy went to Cooley Law School in Lansing, oh man, is that place a sh--hole. That place is so depressed it's crazy. The night before his graduation we went out on the town and at one point stopped in the strip club (I believe it's called abduls) and the patrons were putting coins on the stage and the girls were fighting over it. I felt so bad that I put a $20 bill on the stage before we walked out. I mean we literally walked in an out and I put it down before leaving. That was back in 2009 so maybe it's change since then, but man that was crazy.

Another interesting thing was that the capital building lights would be on in the evening and you could walk up to the windows and listen to the politicians arguing with each other. Lots of yelling going on.



I don't think it has changed much since then. I used to have to travel there quarterly to visit a client. The airport is comically small. I was quite happy when a re-org removed me from the account.
RE: RE: RE: Lansing, MI is pretty bad.  
bradshaw44 : 7/6/2018 10:25 am : link
In comment 14007350 Pete in MD said:
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Harrisburg, PA and Albany, NY are not great either. I’ve never spent time in Trenton aside from the train stopping on the way to NYC.



My buddy went to Cooley Law School in Lansing, oh man, is that place a sh--hole. That place is so depressed it's crazy. The night before his graduation we went out on the town and at one point stopped in the strip club (I believe it's called abduls) and the patrons were putting coins on the stage and the girls were fighting over it. I felt so bad that I put a $20 bill on the stage before we walked out. I mean we literally walked in an out and I put it down before leaving. That was back in 2009 so maybe it's change since then, but man that was crazy.

Another interesting thing was that the capital building lights would be on in the evening and you could walk up to the windows and listen to the politicians arguing with each other. Lots of yelling going on.




I don't think it has changed much since then. I used to have to travel there quarterly to visit a client. The airport is comically small. I was quite happy when a re-org removed me from the account.


Yea, the airport is like a shoe box. The only thing I found to be memorable about Lansing was their squirrels were about twice the size of squirrels on the east coast.
I'm guessing..  
RinR : 7/6/2018 11:49 am : link
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Richmond used to be a dump in the early '00s


...you haven't been to Richmond lately.
RE: RE: Oops  
chopperhatch : 7/6/2018 11:50 am : link
In comment 14007276 BestFeature said:
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Way more visible here than on the *east* coast, I meant to say.



San Francisco is pretty bad too, you're right.

However, I'm not sure I've been in a city that has more homeless people than Philly. Every damn block there's someone. Most are pretty chill, some are pretty crazy though.

Philly is pretty sketchy though. I live in a "safe" part of town and someone got stabbed a couple of blocks from me and apparently the same happened the year before too.


Where in Philly so you live BestFeature?

And yes. The homelessness situation on the El, it seems like they all agreed on a script. Tent city is right up the street from me and its gross.
RE: RE: RE: Oops  
BestFeature : 7/6/2018 12:01 pm : link
In comment 14007449 chopperhatch said:
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Way more visible here than on the *east* coast, I meant to say.



San Francisco is pretty bad too, you're right.

However, I'm not sure I've been in a city that has more homeless people than Philly. Every damn block there's someone. Most are pretty chill, some are pretty crazy though.

Philly is pretty sketchy though. I live in a "safe" part of town and someone got stabbed a couple of blocks from me and apparently the same happened the year before too.



Where in Philly so you live BestFeature?

And yes. The homelessness situation on the El, it seems like they all agreed on a script. Tent city is right up the street from me and its gross.


I should have said "lived", I moved back to NYC a little more than a month ago. I lived on Walnut and 23rd, the stabbing took place on Market and 22nd. It's eerie because a similar event happened on the same block almost exactly a year before that. (It was in mid-May).
Trenton and Hartford are total shit  
redbeard : 7/6/2018 12:30 pm : link
On the opposite end of he spectrum I just moved to Madison a week ago and this place is freaking legit. Beautiful weather, great food and drink, stuff going on everyday

Then the seasons change and I play some pond hockey

Diggin’ it
I grew up in Albany  
Dave on the UWS : 7/6/2018 3:00 pm : link
And the word that comes to my mind is - toilet. They’ve worked at urban revitalization and it’s just a semi toilet now.
Grew up in Jersey and worked a bunch in Michigan  
Jimmy Googs : 7/6/2018 3:25 pm : link
and Trenton and Lansing are disasters...
I grew up in a suburb of Albany.  
Ryan in Albany : 7/6/2018 3:53 pm : link
I rarely have a reason to go to downtown Albany other than a concert. Would never consider living there. It's pretty boring.
RE: I'm guessing..  
jtfuoco : 7/6/2018 4:55 pm : link
In comment 14007446 RinR said:
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Richmond used to be a dump in the early '00s



...you haven't been to Richmond lately.


That was funny and so true
RE: RE: RE: RE: Oops  
chopperhatch : 7/6/2018 5:07 pm : link
In comment 14007457 BestFeature said:
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In comment 14007449 chopperhatch said:


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In comment 14007276 BestFeature said:


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Way more visible here than on the *east* coast, I meant to say.



San Francisco is pretty bad too, you're right.

However, I'm not sure I've been in a city that has more homeless people than Philly. Every damn block there's someone. Most are pretty chill, some are pretty crazy though.

Philly is pretty sketchy though. I live in a "safe" part of town and someone got stabbed a couple of blocks from me and apparently the same happened the year before too.



Where in Philly so you live BestFeature?

And yes. The homelessness situation on the El, it seems like they all agreed on a script. Tent city is right up the street from me and its gross.



I should have said "lived", I moved back to NYC a little more than a month ago. I lived on Walnut and 23rd, the stabbing took place on Market and 22nd. It's eerie because a similar event happened on the same block almost exactly a year before that. (It was in mid-May).


Jesus thats Rittenhouse.
RE: RE: I'm guessing..  
chopperhatch : 7/6/2018 5:08 pm : link
In comment 14007664 jtfuoco said:
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In comment 14007446 RinR said:


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Richmond used to be a dump in the early '00s



...you haven't been to Richmond lately.



That was funny and so true


Lol, I havent and had a feeling it was a diff place now.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Oops  
BestFeature : 7/6/2018 5:52 pm : link
In comment 14007668 chopperhatch said:
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In comment 14007449 chopperhatch said:


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Way more visible here than on the *east* coast, I meant to say.



San Francisco is pretty bad too, you're right.

However, I'm not sure I've been in a city that has more homeless people than Philly. Every damn block there's someone. Most are pretty chill, some are pretty crazy though.

Philly is pretty sketchy though. I live in a "safe" part of town and someone got stabbed a couple of blocks from me and apparently the same happened the year before too.



Where in Philly so you live BestFeature?

And yes. The homelessness situation on the El, it seems like they all agreed on a script. Tent city is right up the street from me and its gross.



I should have said "lived", I moved back to NYC a little more than a month ago. I lived on Walnut and 23rd, the stabbing took place on Market and 22nd. It's eerie because a similar event happened on the same block almost exactly a year before that. (It was in mid-May).



Jesus thats Rittenhouse.


I'd say it was a few blocks west of it, certainly wasn't Rittenhouse rent. But yeah it's a nice area and if anything quieter than Rittenhouse. It was shocking. Also, just to satisfy my OCD, haha. The stabbings took place mid-March not mid-May. Doesn't really change the story. It was a bit scary since I also worked across the street.
I should have linked this  
BestFeature : 7/6/2018 6:01 pm : link
Below are the links:

2017 Stabbing on 22nd and Market

2018 Stabbing on 22nd and Market

The 2017 link doesn't always work, not sure what's up with it.

But it says:

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Friday, March 17, 2017

CENTER CITY (WPVI) -- Police say a fight between two men ended in a stabbing in Center City, Philadelphia.

It happened before 3 a.m. Friday at the intersection of 22nd and Market streets".


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Philadelphia police searched for a killer after someone stabbed a man multiple times at a Center City street corner overnight.

The 55-year-old man was stabbed in the stomach and body at 22nd and Market streets around 2:30 a.m. Tuesday, Philadelphia Police said.


Similar times too...
Montpelier, Vermont  
solfish : 7/7/2018 1:20 pm : link
population 7,000 something.
RE: I should have linked this  
chopperhatch : 7/7/2018 2:01 pm : link
In comment 14007708 BestFeature said:
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Below are the links:

2017 Stabbing on 22nd and Market

2018 Stabbing on 22nd and Market

The 2017 link doesn't always work, not sure what's up with it.

But it says:



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Friday, March 17, 2017

CENTER CITY (WPVI) -- Police say a fight between two men ended in a stabbing in Center City, Philadelphia.

It happened before 3 a.m. Friday at the intersection of 22nd and Market streets".



The other one:



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Philadelphia police searched for a killer after someone stabbed a man multiple times at a Center City street corner overnight.

The 55-year-old man was stabbed in the stomach and body at 22nd and Market streets around 2:30 a.m. Tuesday, Philadelphia Police said.



Similar times too...


Yea, I meant it was essentially Ritt....def the 22nd and Walnut part.

I think I remember the 2017 one as it kinda startled me.

Philly is generally fairly safe as far as larger cities go, but that shit is crazy.
RE: Pierre, SD  
spike : 7/7/2018 5:45 pm : link
In comment 14007253 Scott in Seattle said:
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The first thing that popped into my head as well... But not one, two people beat me to it! What a depressing place.


whats wrong with it
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