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NFT: Gardening Questions: Curse of the Cabbage

pjcas18 : 7/6/2018 1:58 pm
I know there are some knowledgeable gardeners on here (Gidie?) and others so thought I'd look for suggestions here.

My goal with this year's garden was to make my favorite salsa with entirely home grown ingredients (at least for the vegetables).

Tomatoes
Cucumber (yes, it's in there and adds nicely to the salsa)
Bell Peppers
Jalapeno Peppers
Onions
Cilantro

simple.

All those items are in the garden and thriving. Also have eggplant and some san marzano tomatoes and basil that will not be in the salsa.

Problem is my wife said why don't you grow some kale and cabbage too. I had space so I added a few cabbage and kale plants. Not blaming my wife for this fiasco, just saying I normally have zero interest in cabbage or kale.

Kale I was actually surprised, it's been awesome, grows easily and quickly and you can cultivate it multiple times throughout the summer if you do it right and we've had Kale chips, sauteed kale with evoo and garlic, and even just in salads. I'm not a Kale eater but when you grow it I feel like I should eat it.

Problem is the cabbage, it's overtaking the garden, the plants seem very healthy, but they're massive and seem like they're starting to choke out the other plants and block the sun with their massive leaves.

Should I yank them from the garden? can I trim back the leaves at all? In addition I read that cabbage should be planted nowhere near tomatoes and it's not really that close - but how close is close? Also I read that cabbage is a cold weather crop and can grow (sometimes) into October - does that mean these cabbages are just going to be growing like this all summer before being able to pick a head of cabbage, I read it can continue to thrive even after a frost (same with Kale).

So, any advice? I'm leaning toward just pulling the cabbage out.
Just had to lime my garden  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/6/2018 2:04 pm : link
everything I was growing was getting end-rot. If anyone has any other tips that would be great. I'm growing stuff in pots and potting soil.

The lime has made everything a real dark green color and it all looks much more healthy then before.

Always looking for ways to better my garden.
RE: Just had to lime my garden  
pjcas18 : 7/6/2018 2:07 pm : link
In comment 14007538 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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everything I was growing was getting end-rot. If anyone has any other tips that would be great. I'm growing stuff in pots and potting soil.

The lime has made everything a real dark green color and it all looks much more healthy then before.

Always looking for ways to better my garden.


for tomatoes I used this for end rot a couple years ago, I didn't have much hope but it worked (that and consistent watering):

My dad is a big gardener  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/6/2018 2:13 pm : link
I think you should be ok with cabbage. He grew pumpkins that took over part of his garden one year. If other plants seem to be dying, I would cut away the cabbage there.
Cabbage won't be ready....  
Robert : 7/6/2018 3:02 pm : link
for awhile being it's a cool weather crop. Also, San Marzano makes great garden salsa. Fresh salsa gets very soupy with many tomatoes, but the San Marzanos are dry and stay chunky with just enough juice. Garden salsa is what I look forward to the most in the summer.
summer heat will kill your cabbage or cause it to bolt.  
oghwga : 7/6/2018 3:37 pm : link
usually should be harvesting it by now. I cover mine with frames and shade cloth.
You can trim the outer leaves if they're in the way or tie them up over the head that is forming.
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