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NFT: **World Cup Semifinals Thread**

Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/10/2018 9:56 am
The final four is upon us. France v Belgium today, Croatia v England tomorrow.

I'm going with the best defenses and a France v England final.
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Sticking with my Belgium vs England final  
PatersonPlank : 7/10/2018 9:59 am : link
although this time they will really play the match, not go through the motions.
The amount of  
UESBLUE : 7/10/2018 10:00 am : link
class and talent on that pitch today is ridic. I have no idea who wins this one.
can't wait, should be a great game  
UConn4523 : 7/10/2018 10:13 am : link
I had a Uruguay/Croatia final so ill stick with half of that and go France/Croatia. I'll be rooting for Belgium but something is telling me France pulls it out.
I think the match to remember is Japan-Belgium  
Go Terps : 7/10/2018 11:21 am : link
Japan opened Belgium up easily. Japan has some good technical players (I'm excited to see Inui at Betis this season - great fit there), but they're obviously a notch or two below what France offers. France also doesn't have Brazil's problem of needing to placate and go through an overrated and unfit diva like Neymar.

I'm rooting for Belgium today because I've always liked Roberto Martinez and feel he gets a bad rap, but this feels like a good matchup for France. The speed of Mbappe and Griezmann could be a problem for them today. I wonder also if they'd consider swapping Giroud for Dembele. I doubt it as Giroud has been the reference point for them, but if Belgium wants to replicate what Japan did I wonder if Dembele's speed should be the answer over Giroud's power.

Tomorrow should be good too. I'm looking for Sterling to have a big day. His movement against Sweden was superb, and against a potentially gassed and already suspect Croatian back line he might enjoy himself.
Like I said..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/10/2018 11:28 am : link
before the Brazil game, I'm not sure how much can be made of Belgium-Japan.

Each World Cup we see a team that has a match where they struggle and then they survive.

Belgium conceded two goals, but they roared back to win the game, even before it could go to extra time.

Japan played a very technically sound game.

But after watching it, you could make the case Belgium took them too lightly until they saw they truly were in trouble. That can be the sign of a problem, but they appeared to be completely focused vs. Brazil.

I think it will be a Belgium-Croatia final, but I've got as many wrong as I've gotten right so far.
Here's a ditty I sent a few days ago  
ColHowPepper : 7/10/2018 11:58 am : link
to an English buddy and a French buddy arguing their countries' causes (and it drew a funny retort from one D Hirshey]:
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Alas, me lads, it shall be told,

Yea, the Three Lions playing so bold, well may reach Luzhniki,
a nod to welcoming Swedes, playing passive and playing deep,

And to savant Sir Hirshey, it must be said, his (at long last)
Wenger-less Gunners come up small, being Tottenham’s Spurs made Colombia weep,

Gallant Kane will lead them, Lingard, fiery Pickford, workman Henderson too,
All EPLs Trippier, Walker, mallet head Maguire, elegant Dele Alli,

Yet in this lesser borough was the Russian bear laid Croatia low, fair Modrić their best,
Rebic, the one-legged Subasić, all spent, on the morrow give England the talley,

Mon France, mon France
Electric Mbappe, rock Griezemann, humble Hugo and Pogba the Enigmatic,
Still, in Duchamps’ telling it's nimble, energetic Kanté, the poacher, the fixer,

Who holds the key to unseating mighty Belgium et le grand Courtois,
the scintillating Hazard, DeBruyne, Lukaku and their magic elixir,

In the end, in Red Square, where oligarchs, thieves, and traitors connive,
It is Légion d’honneur Thierry Henry aids Belgium's reign supreme,
They will hoist the Cup and shatter your dreams

[Verily suckitude disgrace to iambic pentameter, but you get the idea]
Starting XI  
Big Rick in FL : 7/10/2018 1:00 pm : link
Belgium XI: Courtois, Alderweireld, Kompany, Vertonghen, Dembele, Fellaini, Witsel, Chadli, De Bruyne, Lukaku, Eden Hazard.

France XI: Lloris, Pavard, Varane, Umtiti, Hernandez, Pogba, Kanté, Mbappé, Griezmann, Matuidi, Giroud.
Millering my own thread  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/10/2018 1:05 pm : link
if anyone knows the best place to sit a Red bull stadium that will not cost an arm and a leg, let me know.
I'm picking Belgium today  
Eman11 : 7/10/2018 1:05 pm : link
I think their Goal keeper outplays his counterpart and is the difference maker.
RE: Starting XI  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/10/2018 1:08 pm : link
In comment 14009906 Big Rick in FL said:
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Belgium XI: Courtois, Alderweireld, Kompany, Vertonghen, Dembele, Fellaini, Witsel, Chadli, De Bruyne, Lukaku, Eden Hazard.

France XI: Lloris, Pavard, Varane, Umtiti, Hernandez, Pogba, Kanté, Mbappé, Griezmann, Matuidi, Giroud.


Oh Dembele.... Martinez rolling the dice.
...  
Jon in NYC : 7/10/2018 1:09 pm : link
" Dembele, Fellaini, Witsel, Chadli,"

This is not a creative midfield. I expect France to dominate possession.
Chadli and..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/10/2018 1:13 pm : link
Fellaini have been solid the past two matches.

Chadli seems to be creating more than I thought he would and has put some very good deliveries into the box
BHE  
Go Terps : 7/10/2018 1:18 pm : link
Red Bull Arena is excellent. Not a bad seat in the place. I preferred sitting high up behind a goal to see the whole field. Great view.
RE: BHE  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/10/2018 1:19 pm : link
In comment 14009924 Go Terps said:
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Red Bull Arena is excellent. Not a bad seat in the place. I preferred sitting high up behind a goal to see the whole field. Great view.


Upstairs in the 200s or say 10-12 rows back in the lower bowl? Thanks!
GT..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/10/2018 1:21 pm : link
that's a great suggestion. At the arena I usually would attend in Germany, the stands are only on either side of the pitch.

I went to a match between Juventus and Bayern in Charlotte and sat in the end zone. Awesome view! You could see the plays develop and the strategy much better from that vantage point. Transformed the way I want to watch the action.
BHE  
Go Terps : 7/10/2018 1:26 pm : link
You'll get a good view either way - at that point it's a matter of personal preference. What match are you planning to see? I had season tickets for a couple years in the lower level (about 10 rows) behind a goal, and that was really cool. I got a real appreciation for Thierry Henry's technique - man could that guy hit the ball clean. If that's the kind of thing you're looking for, sit down low.

But if you prefer to see the whole game develop, sit up high behind a goal. The arena is still tight enough that you can see the expressions on players' faces, but you also get the "All 22" view.

I can't stress enough wait a great venue it is. Not a bad seat in the place.
Based on those lineups  
UESBLUE : 7/10/2018 1:56 pm : link
it appears Belgium is more defensively oriented while France is going for goals.
Big save Lloris  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/10/2018 2:22 pm : link
Belgium the better chances so far.
RE: Big save Lloris  
UConn4523 : 7/10/2018 2:23 pm : link
In comment 14009980 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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Belgium the better chances so far.


Great save. Belgium definitely with the better chances but I feel like France has missed atleast 2 passes that could have led to breakaways. They are very close to scoring as well.
I think it's a mistake to read Belgium's lineup as uncreative  
Nitro : 7/10/2018 2:26 pm : link
any team with DeBruyne and Hazard on the field is not that. They're just funnelling chance creation to the wings with a stronger center to recycle posession/mitigate Pogba. I like their structure.
I like what Martinez has done  
Go Terps : 7/10/2018 2:40 pm : link
Both De Bruyne and Hazard have been pulled away from Kante, and Fellaini is providing an ongoing Plan B drifting forward when Belgium is in possession.

What a save just there from Courtois.
Dembele has been poor  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/10/2018 2:44 pm : link
They've mitigated Pogba by having Fellaini move forward.
Neither team wants to be caught out  
wigs in nyc : 7/10/2018 2:49 pm : link
France looks the more likely to make something happen from the run-of-play, while Belgium looks to be playing for the counter
That being said  
wigs in nyc : 7/10/2018 2:50 pm : link
I'm not sure France is playing aggressive enough for a counter strategy to offer many chances.

It's smart to keep the creative players away from Kante, but I think De Bruyne would be more effective centrally
such an excellent, interesting game  
ColHowPepper : 7/10/2018 2:52 pm : link
- both sides showing respect for the game, minimum of fouls, no flopping, though thought Vertonghen on Griezemann and Dembele could have earned cautions, ref saving cards

- Pavard looked nervous early on, poor touches, and Hazard had his way with him, Duchamps needs to figure that out, fast, and Pavard and Varane on a miscommunication at ~ 25 minutes almost let Hazard walk through

- as predicted Kanté so critical in MF

- Griezemann has been poor with his FKs this tournament

- humble Hugo, holding his own and then some
RE: I like what Martinez has done  
ColHowPepper : 7/10/2018 3:00 pm : link
In comment 14010002 Go Terps said:
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Both De Bruyne and Hazard have been pulled away from Kante, and Fellaini is providing an ongoing Plan B drifting forward when Belgium is in possession.
Don't underestimate the role Henry is playing, one of the masters of off-ball movement and runs.

GT: can you post again when you have the chance that link to the in-depth tearing apart of USSF, excellent article, but can't track it down.
I think..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/10/2018 3:03 pm : link
Chadli already has 8 crosses.
despite cautious play  
PaulBlakeTSU : 7/10/2018 3:04 pm : link
by both sides in the first half, there were a lot of excellent chances and plays by both teams. What a save by Lloris, some great runs by Hazard, and Mbappe flashing that Randy Moss like game-breaking ability over the top.
One thing..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/10/2018 3:08 pm : link
that always stands out for me as a difference between the US and the top teams is how solid some of these defenders are. Vertongen has been so strong 1 v 1 and there is a strong team D cohesion for almost every one of these squads
Set pieces  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/10/2018 3:10 pm : link
story of the tournament.
fantastic all around  
ColHowPepper : 7/10/2018 3:14 pm : link
yowzaa
What a backheel pass  
UConn4523 : 7/10/2018 3:15 pm : link
France isn’t going to take its foot off the gas. 2-0 would be a killer.
This..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/10/2018 3:22 pm : link
has been a fantastic match to watch
Pogba making a huge difference  
UConn4523 : 7/10/2018 3:25 pm : link
marking Fellaini
Giroud with the field goal  
PatersonPlank : 7/10/2018 3:25 pm : link
Great match
RE: Giroud with the field goal  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/10/2018 3:26 pm : link
In comment 14010047 PatersonPlank said:
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Great match


He does what he needs to for this team, but man he is wasteful for both club and country.
commentary on Pogba  
ColHowPepper : 7/10/2018 3:31 pm : link
rightly and richly deserved, but Matuidi and Giroux, tracking back, repeatedly, Rick Nash like playing a two-way game and not being able to buy a goal smh
come on Belgium  
PaulBlakeTSU : 7/10/2018 3:35 pm : link
knot this up. I want more soccer!
why has Lukaku been so absent?  
PaulBlakeTSU : 7/10/2018 3:36 pm : link
Is it due to something specific being done by France?
Clear foul at the edge of the box  
giantBCP : 7/10/2018 3:37 pm : link
What was the referee looking at.
RE: Clear foul at the edge of the box  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/10/2018 3:38 pm : link
In comment 14010062 giantBCP said:
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What was the referee looking at.


No idea.
Awful missed call on Giroud  
UConn4523 : 7/10/2018 3:38 pm : link
definitely fouled Hazard
Amazing..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/10/2018 3:40 pm : link
that you have a better chance of getting the foul called by flopping than if you're legitimately fouled.
RE: Amazing..  
PaulBlakeTSU : 7/10/2018 3:41 pm : link
In comment 14010069 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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that you have a better chance of getting the foul called by flopping than if you're legitimately fouled.


the Carmelo Anthony dilemma.
Flopping..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/10/2018 3:52 pm : link
just earned Vertongen a yellow card.

It's embarrassing that flops get rewarded
the time-wasting tactics  
PaulBlakeTSU : 7/10/2018 3:52 pm : link
at the end are spoiling an otherwise spectacular match for me. Shame.
Varane and Umtiti were excellent  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/10/2018 3:57 pm : link
in the end, one set piece was the difference.

I'm old enough to remember a Puma commercial with Deschamps to Korn's Make Me Bad.
RE: Flopping..  
wigs in nyc : 7/10/2018 4:02 pm : link
In comment 14010077 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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just earned Vertongen a yellow card.

It's embarrassing that flops get rewarded


like The Producers
If England wins tomorrow we have the classic rivalry  
dpinzow : 7/10/2018 4:03 pm : link
that goes back almost a thousand years in the world cup final
RE: Flopping..  
ColHowPepper : 7/10/2018 4:05 pm : link
In comment 14010077 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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just earned Vertongen a yellow card.
It's embarrassing that flops get rewarded
And it's a shame that the game was virtually devoid of that until the last minutes. Don't know why it is so often the brightest lights who feel the need. So unnecessary.
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