according to nj.com...
"Jonathan Stewart
2017 Stats: 198 carries for 680 yards and 6 touchdowns with 8 catches for 52 yards and 1 touchdown.
It is entirely fair to question how much Jonathan Stewart has left in the tank, after he averaged a career-low 3.4 yards per carry with the Carolina Panthers last season. Nevertheless, general manager Dave Gettleman and the Giants signed Stewart to a two-year $6.8 million deal that includes $3.45 million guaranteed. This spring,
Stewart looked more like a plodding veteran running back trying to hang on, than a back capable of shouldering a significant workload. If nothing else, Stewart should provide steady veteran leadership in a locker room that is in desperate need of it."
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Perhaps he'll give Barkley a break for a series or two, but I think he'll mainly be in there for short yardage.
Stewart has a role on this team, and it's not to be the bellcow.
A vet who knows what’s needed to get himself to a desired level. But yes, plodding can be seen
Perhaps he'll give Barkley a break for a series or two, but I think he'll mainly be in there for short yardage.
Agree 100%, Stewart's not going to be wasted getting tired running between the 20s. End of the year his stats will be something like 100 carries for 250 yards with 8+ touchdowns. As long as he can drive the pile within the 5 yard line, he's good.
With Barkley in the fold, he'll get 15-20 plays/game (tops).
1. To provide leadership (specifically to Barkley - I think Gettleman had a pretty good idea that he was going to take Barkley if he was on the board at the time of the signing)
2. Short yardage/goal line situations
Stewart was NOT brought here to carry the rock 20 times a game.
So, this doesn't mean that much to me.
I didn't really like the signing because I thought there were some more intriguing RB's there, but I get why Gettleman wanted to bring Stew here.
With Barkley in the fold, he'll get 15-20 plays/game (tops).
I'd be shocked if Stewart got 10 plays a game.
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in case they didn't get Barkley.
With Barkley in the fold, he'll get 15-20 plays/game (tops).
I'd be shocked if Stewart got 10 plays a game.
Agreed. It seems clear DG brought him in as one of his guys to help change a shit locker room. Honestly, any on field production is welcome, but not expecting much
2) Goal Line RB
I think that majority of all Giants fans just expected Stewart to provide those two points.
I love Stewart as the "O.J. Anderson" #3, guiding the youngsters. As pointed out above, the Giants need a GL/SY specialist and Stewart can grind out tough yards. Excellent on 3rd/4th and short & almost never got stopped for a loss last year. It's an artform and often a role an aging RB can fill with sheer guile.
He won't get a ton of touches but he fills a role and is good Vet presence .
I don't see how anyone can seriously argue that Giants are better off with JS than RC.
He can fill in and play some but he is not a long term answer. I was disappointed in the contract but we needed a veteran presence and Stewart is a high character guy who can help our wounded locker room.
But he's a bit more than a mentor in that he knows Shula's offense. So he's kind of like play-coach.
To be honest, I really haven't watched him a lot in recent years so I personally don't know how much he has left. Gettleman's comments were extremely flowery after he signed him. We shall see.
Stewart has a role on this team, and it's not to be the bellcow.
Though I don't think it fits to compare Stewart to one of the greatest RBs of all time. It's a lot easier to argue in favor of paying a bunch of money to have a legend on your roster as opposed to overpaying for a who who at the peak of his career was really never a full time starting runningback. Only 3 seasons over 200 carries.
With Barkley in the fold, he'll get 15-20 plays/game (tops).
I highly doubt that.
I get the “mentoring” and goal line stuff but you can get that for a lot cheaper.
Oh well, at least Gettleman’s bad signings haven’t really broken the budget (Stewart and Herzlich).
I don't see how anyone can seriously argue that Giants are better off with JS than RC.
Very good point.
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was more than capable as a goal line runner last year. I'd expect that to be his main role this year as well.
Perhaps he'll give Barkley a break for a series or two, but I think he'll mainly be in there for short yardage.
Agree 100%, Stewart's not going to be wasted getting tired running between the 20s. End of the year his stats will be something like 100 carries for 250 yards with 8+ touchdowns. As long as he can drive the pile within the 5 yard line, he's good.
Lol. He is not scoring 8 tds.
It was a terrible move and it will be clear early in the year. Should have used the money with another player and went with a younger player for this role.
I get the “mentoring” and goal line stuff but you can get that for a lot cheaper.
Oh well, at least Gettleman’s bad signings haven’t really broken the budget (Stewart and Herzlich).
God forbid Eli, OBJ or some other so called “elite” positional player actually shows some in-your-face character on that Offense to be a true character/leader. Nope, we have to go buy it from the local retirement home.
Short yardage back concerns in 2018...are you kidding me? That is like Issue #76 on the list of things to worry about for a 3-13 team.
Stewart will be the first guy jettisoned next year if not sooner if this team struggles.
Easily will be DGs least-finest moment...
An example of what not to do
He did score 5/6 TDs within 5 yards, so he showed he could punch it in. I'm just not sure that's worth the guaranteed money.
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signed for the exact same money 2/6.8 million
I don't see how anyone can seriously argue that Giants are better off with JS than RC.
Ross Cockrell makes us a better team? Stewart at least fills a need we've sorely been lacking - a goal line/short yardage runner.
Exactly what role does Cockrell fill? 4th or 5th CB??
It wasn't until the 'wait, HOW MUCH?' moment that it all fell apart.
Between having a weak Offensive Line and a QB that is absolutely no threat to sneak, no sure we should blame the short-yardage conversions issues on our previous RBs.
Nevertheless, if Stewart has any value on the field it better come here...
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signed for the exact same money 2/6.8 million
I don't see how anyone can seriously argue that Giants are better off with JS than RC.
Ross Cockrell makes us a better team? Stewart at least fills a need we've sorely been lacking - a goal line/short yardage runner.
Exactly what role does Cockrell fill? 4th or 5th CB??
Where's this confidence coming from in this group of Corners. Even if you think Grant Haley is going to set the world on fire, what happens when someone gets hurt? Cockrell was a very good player. I think you're tremendously overstating the value of a "goal line back".
They might have overpaid for Stewart by a bit, but it's not a crazy contract. Blount got 2 mill fully guar by the Lions. You guys are quibbling over 1.5 mill extra in guaranteed money. I'd rather have Stewart being the vet leader and mentor for Barkley than Blount. And that difference might be worth the extra mill.
Stewart was the move I liked the least this offseason, but it's not really going to be that prohibitive or suffocate the team. I think Gettleman had a pretty good idea he was going to draft Barkley when Stewart was signed and I think he wanted Stewart here to really guide Barkley from day 1 and be a positive influence on him. Beyond that, we also could use a short yardage guy.
It's a slow time and there's not much to talk about, so stuff like this gets blown out of proportion.
Stewart isn't going to move the needle that much one way or another - but given what we're going to be putting on Barkley's plate and will expect him to do here over the next few years, I don't hate having a guy in the locker room like Stewart for him to learn from.
It is what it is.
He's a mediocre player who I'm sure is replaceable by most scrap heap guys.
Hell, Stewart could be put in that category as well.
At least Stewart fills a role we've been consistently poor at.
Wake up and enter the year 2018 in the NFL...