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adamg : 7/10/2018 4:58 pm
LF Gardner
RF Judge
CF Hicks
DH Stanton
SS Didi
3B Andujar
1B Bird
C Romine
2B Walker

And TANAKA on the mound. Let's get the W!
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And go vote for Stanton to the All Star game  
adamg : 7/10/2018 4:59 pm : link
if not because you like him, do it so that that douche bag Benintendi doesn't get it.
Is it just me  
superspynyg : 7/10/2018 5:55 pm : link
Or does it seem Tanaka always have a better 2nd half of the season than the first, Especially when he co es of a stint on the DL?
Really excited to see how Masa looks  
bigbluehoya : 7/10/2018 6:09 pm : link
Not to overstate the importance of this one particular game, but Id argue that whether or not NYY add a pitcher, the performance of Tanaka from here out is the biggest determinant of how far this team can go.
RE: Really excited to see how Masa looks  
adamg : 7/10/2018 6:11 pm : link
In comment 14010209 bigbluehoya said:
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Not to overstate the importance of this one particular game, but Id argue that whether or not NYY add a pitcher, the performance of Tanaka from here out is the biggest determinant of how far this team can go.


I think that's fair. He and CC are the biggest variables. They were studs last post season. The offense should be better this time around, with Castro replaced by Torres and Headley/Frazier replaced by Andujar. Not to mention the addition of Stanton (who everyone should vote for btw).
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adamg : 7/10/2018 6:28 pm : link
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Yanks have J.A. Happ near the top of their realistic rotation trade options (they dont see degrom or Thor as especially realistic) but to this point have found the asking price on Happ high

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I hope the asking price for Happ stays high  
UConn4523 : 7/10/2018 6:30 pm : link
we shouldnt target him, IMO. He isnt an upgrade over Tanaka or CC for the post season.
RE: I hope the asking price for Happ stays high  
adamg : 7/10/2018 6:30 pm : link
In comment 14010218 UConn4523 said:
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we shouldnt target him, IMO. He isnt an upgrade over Tanaka or CC for the post season.
I don't think they're targeting him for post season play
Even worse is blowing your load  
UConn4523 : 7/10/2018 6:32 pm : link
for regular season wins. I get that we want to win the division but Happ isnt even good enough to make me feel good about that.
RE: Even worse is blowing your load  
adamg : 7/10/2018 6:34 pm : link
In comment 14010220 UConn4523 said:
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for regular season wins. I get that we want to win the division but Happ isnt even good enough to make me feel good about that.


YOu'd rather bank on Gray to turn it around?
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arcarsenal : 7/10/2018 6:38 pm : link
Welcome back, Masa!

Rotation needed him. Hopefully he's got a good 2nd half ahead of him.

If TOR is asking for anything significant for Happ, I'd just hang up the phone. I think he'd be a nice add, but that's not a guy I'd overpay for.

I think there are going to be some lesser-mentioned guys who might emerge as better targets, but we'll see.
RE: RE: Even worse is blowing your load  
UConn4523 : 7/10/2018 6:43 pm : link
In comment 14010221 adamg said:
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for regular season wins. I get that we want to win the division but Happ isnt even good enough to make me feel good about that.



YOu'd rather bank on Gray to turn it around?


Im assuming that frazier would be in this deal and if thats the case my answer would be no. Im enjoying this team and thats because of the young kids. Adding a career 4 ERA pitcher whos around 4.5 ERA for the season while giving up a piece of the future seems ludicrous to me. We can get Happs likely production elsewhere.

Do you want another Sonny Gray?
I'm just saying  
adamg : 7/10/2018 6:45 pm : link
The alternative to not adding a SP is more SOnny Gray. He's likely the least popular guy on the team right now. PErsonally, I'm against any trade involving any prospect whose name I know. I expect we can get the help we need without any big names coming up. We're looking for bottom of the rotation help, not trades that would involve Frazier.
And where the hell did Frazier come from?  
adamg : 7/10/2018 6:46 pm : link
There's no way he'd be the piece moved in a Happ trade.
RE: I'm just saying  
mitch300 : 7/10/2018 6:59 pm : link
In comment 14010225 adamg said:
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I'm against any trade involving any prospect whose name I know.

I feel the same way. I say bring up Sheffield.
RE: RE: I'm just saying  
adamg : 7/10/2018 7:01 pm : link
In comment 14010232 mitch300 said:
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I'm against any trade involving any prospect whose name I know.


I feel the same way. I say bring up Sheffield.


+1
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arcarsenal : 7/10/2018 7:11 pm : link
I agree re: Sheffield - I think I'd rather see what he's got before spending any chips on rentals/back end starters like Happ.

I'm a little wary of the walks, but the 2.53 ERA in SWB is good to see. Worst case, he might be able to give us a good lefty reliever out of the pen down the stretch.
i'm sure Cashman  
RasputinPrime : 7/10/2018 7:18 pm : link
is going to hold out for the best possible value but I can't see him not making a significant move for a SP. We won't be able to compete with Houston without 3 starters we can trust. At the moment we have 1.
RE: And where the hell did Frazier come from?  
UConn4523 : 7/10/2018 7:26 pm : link
In comment 14010226 adamg said:
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There's no way he'd be the piece moved in a Happ trade.


It came from him being the next in line after Torres and Andujar of guys everyone will include in their starting offer packages. Why wouldnt the Blue Jays ask for him?

Happs fine for a mid or couple low level prospects but no thanks on anything more than that.
Schoop - called a HR  
RasputinPrime : 7/10/2018 7:32 pm : link
but clearly it wasn't.
Tanaka is officially back!  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/10/2018 7:32 pm : link
Haha.
Safe to say Gardner didn't see that ball at all.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/10/2018 7:33 pm : link
It wasn't a HR, but he didn't even try to get it back in quickly.
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arcarsenal : 7/10/2018 7:33 pm : link
That's not a HR
What can buck possibly  
bubba0825 : 7/10/2018 7:34 pm : link
Argue here
Tanaka looks good  
adamg : 7/10/2018 7:43 pm : link
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RE: Tanaka looks good  
Percy : 7/10/2018 7:44 pm : link
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Was just about to say that.
For whatever odd reason Cashner has owned them  
Greg from LI : 7/10/2018 8:05 pm : link
One thing about Happ - since going to Toronto, he is undefeated against the Sawx
RE: i'm sure Cashman  
Eman11 : 7/10/2018 8:05 pm : link
In comment 14010240 RasputinPrime said:
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is going to hold out for the best possible value but I can't see him not making a significant move for a SP. We won't be able to compete with Houston without 3 starters we can trust. At the moment we have 1.


Well I can only speak for myself but I definitely trust CC and Tanaka come playoff time. Would I like to have a DeGrom or Bumgarner ahead of them? Sure but I don't see them being realistic available options.

I'd be happy with Haap or Hamels to get us through the rest of the regular season. Neither has great numbers but both have some pluses IMO. Haap has good numbers vs the Sox and we have ten games left with them, and Hamels has been there, so the bright lights shouldn't bother him like they do Sonny.

It's possible Cash has his eye on someone else totally off the radar and it wouldn't surprise me if he made a move like that. To quote our football threads....in Cash we trust.
11 up, 11 down against a guy with the 4th worst WHIP of any starter  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/10/2018 8:06 pm : link
in the Majors.
RE: 11 up, 11 down against a guy with the 4th worst WHIP of any starter  
Del Shofner : 7/10/2018 8:09 pm : link
In comment 14010280 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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in the Majors.


He's looking like Cy Young against us so far tonight.
Like I said  
Greg from LI : 7/10/2018 8:13 pm : link
For whatever reason, Cashner has dominated the Yankees this year in multiple starts. I have no idea why, but he has.
Romine is framing pitches better tonight than usual  
adamg : 7/10/2018 8:16 pm : link
imo
Joey fucking RIckard  
adamg : 7/10/2018 8:18 pm : link
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Wtf happened to Bird on that play?  
adamg : 7/10/2018 8:21 pm : link
Fucking eh.
Oh wow  
adamg : 7/10/2018 8:22 pm : link
The runner knocked the ball out. He's out of the line too. Wtf...
Tanaka has the worst luck  
adamg : 7/10/2018 8:23 pm : link
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RE: Oh wow  
Eman11 : 7/10/2018 8:28 pm : link
In comment 14010293 adamg said:
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The runner knocked the ball out. He's out of the line too. Wtf...


No question about that. To me that's where the home plate ump has to help the 1st base ump. The 1st base guys are trained to watch the bag for the runners foot and listen for the ball hitting the glove. No way he can watch the baseline and a runner making contact with a glove when he's watching the base and feet.

The Home plate ump is responsible for fair and foul balls until it reaches the base, so you'd think he'd be responsible for base runners out of the base line or making contact with a 1B glove.
2-9 Cashner  
prdave73 : 7/10/2018 8:33 pm : link
is making the Yankee bats look silly?! Smh..
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Stu11 : 7/10/2018 8:33 pm : link
In comment 14010301 Eman11 said:
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The runner knocked the ball out. He's out of the line too. Wtf...



No question about that. To me that's where the home plate ump has to help the 1st base ump. The 1st base guys are trained to watch the bag for the runners foot and listen for the ball hitting the glove. No way he can watch the baseline and a runner making contact with a glove when he's watching the base and feet.

The Home plate ump is responsible for fair and foul balls until it reaches the base, so you'd think he'd be responsible for base runners out of the base line or making contact with a 1B glove.

Yep home plate umps are taught to get out from behind the plate on a play at first like that to help out in case there's a tag play there
RE: RE: RE: Oh wow  
Eman11 : 7/10/2018 8:39 pm : link
In comment 14010309 Stu11 said:
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The runner knocked the ball out. He's out of the line too. Wtf...



No question about that. To me that's where the home plate ump has to help the 1st base ump. The 1st base guys are trained to watch the bag for the runners foot and listen for the ball hitting the glove. No way he can watch the baseline and a runner making contact with a glove when he's watching the base and feet.

The Home plate ump is responsible for fair and foul balls until it reaches the base, so you'd think he'd be responsible for base runners out of the base line or making contact with a 1B glove.


Yep home plate umps are taught to get out from behind the plate on a play at first like that to help out in case there's a tag play there


Yeah and if he did he clearly missed it. Much like he's missing low balls out of the strike zone. At least Boone is letting him hear about those tonight. Nice field mics on the YES broadcast
Amazing how nobody knows that rule about a catch  
Stu11 : 7/10/2018 8:39 pm : link
I mean between Flash and Kenny what do they have 25 years in the majors? The rule is simple. You have to be in the act of taking the ball out of your glove for it to be a catch. Doesn't matter if you run 10 steps.
BIRD!!  
bceagle05 : 7/10/2018 8:40 pm : link
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Well that is  
bigbluehoya : 7/10/2018 8:40 pm : link
A sight for sore eyes.
Bird is finally the word...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/10/2018 8:40 pm : link
...
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arcarsenal : 7/10/2018 8:40 pm : link
Greg Motherfuckin' Bird!!!
Birdman!  
adamg : 7/10/2018 8:40 pm : link
Makes em pay!
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arcarsenal : 7/10/2018 8:41 pm : link
Guessing the troll will vanish again unless the O's regain the lead....
Bird  
Percy : 7/10/2018 8:42 pm : link
Just when you want to give up on the guy, he belts one long with two on. Excellent!
Man when that guy geys a hold of one  
Stu11 : 7/10/2018 8:42 pm : link
It goes far.
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arcarsenal : 7/10/2018 8:44 pm : link
Bird is frustrating but I still would be willing to stick it out with him for a while - I think patience will be rewarded. Just let him keep playing. He'll find his groove. There was a time when the org was higher on Bird than Judge. I think they still are bullish on him and really do believe he'll come around. If he can stay healthy, I think he will too.
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arcarsenal : 7/10/2018 8:46 pm : link
Ugh. Can't throw one down broadway to Machado like that.
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