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NFL Supplemental Draft Today - How it works

NYG27 : 7/11/2018 11:52 am
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Teams learn the supplemental draft order shortly before it begins. Priority is determined with a weighted lottery based on the April draft order.

At 1 p.m. ET on the day of the draft, teams are notified that the first round has started. Teams then have 10 minutes to respond if they wish to draft a player in that round. The league compiles the responses, if any, and awards the player to the team with the highest priority. All 32 teams are notified electronically of the selection, and the process repeats for each round.

If a team wins its bid, it forfeits the corresponding draft choice for the following spring's draft. For example, a team that uses its third-round pick in the 2018 supplemental draft would lose its third-round pick in the April 2019 draft. And a team that doesn't own a 2019 third-round pick can't participate in the third round of the 2018 supplemental draft.

Who are the players available?
CB Sam Beal, Western Michigan - Big (6-foot-1) corner who ran a 4.47 in the 40-yard dash during a recent workout and has demonstrated high-end ability to cover on the outside. Projected to be selected in Top 3 rounds.

CB Adonis Alexander, Virginia Tech - Tall corner at 6'3 but had poor workouts and has speed concerns. Good on special teams.

S Brandon Bryant, Mississippi State - Smaller saftey at 5'11 but has good speed (4.49 forty). Has some off the field issues.

LB Bright Ugwoegbu, Oregon State - Small (6'0, 205) and slow (4.95 forty) will find it difficult to get selected.

RB Marty Carter, Grand Valley State - Potential to develop into a reliable check down in the passing game.


That's basically the recap of it. Looks like Beal is the real deal and will be drafted. The other four players are a toss up if teams want to surrender a draft pick for.

I've linked the article from ESPN for those who wanted to read more about it.


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here's an analysis fom Rotoworld...  
Mike in St. Louis : 7/11/2018 11:59 am : link
has Beal going I the third round to the Bills...
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I know 40 times aren't a great measure of an athlete and  
robbieballs2003 : 7/11/2018 12:00 pm : link
There are probably reasons for a poor time but if he is considered an elite corner a 4.47 is not ideal. Now why was it a 4.47? Was he not prepared? That isn't good. Was it poor form/start? That is fine.

Does anybody have more information on him? Is he a good man to man guy or more of a cover 2 corner with his size?
and if they aren't selected  
Rocky369 : 7/11/2018 12:01 pm : link
they're considered UDFAs right away? If that's the case, it's almost as if they are the next Mr. Irrelevant in that it might be better not to get drafted and have a shot at "selecting" the team you want to join.
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NYG27 : 7/11/2018 12:12 pm : link
In comment 14010783 Rocky369 said:
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they're considered UDFAs right away? If that's the case, it's almost as if they are the next Mr. Irrelevant in that it might be better not to get drafted and have a shot at "selecting" the team you want to join.


Yes, who ever isn't drafted becomes a free agent.
RE: I know 40 times aren't a great measure of an athlete and  
TommyWiseau : 7/11/2018 12:12 pm : link
In comment 14010781 robbieballs2003 said:
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There are probably reasons for a poor time but if he is considered an elite corner a 4.47 is not ideal. Now why was it a 4.47? Was he not prepared? That isn't good. Was it poor form/start? That is fine.

Does anybody have more information on him? Is he a good man to man guy or more of a cover 2 corner with his size?


4.47 is plenty fast for a CB. Antonio Cromartie ran a 4.47, Richard Sherman ran a 4.56, Talib a 4.44 and they did quite well for themselves. He is a big corner at 6'1
What are everyone's plans?  
pjcas18 : 7/11/2018 12:14 pm : link
draft day party?

seriously, what time is the draft?
RE: What are everyone's plans?  
adamg : 7/11/2018 12:16 pm : link
In comment 14010799 pjcas18 said:
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draft day party?

seriously, what time is the draft?
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RE: RE: I know 40 times aren't a great measure of an athlete and  
robbieballs2003 : 7/11/2018 12:17 pm : link
In comment 14010796 TommyWiseau said:
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In comment 14010781 robbieballs2003 said:


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There are probably reasons for a poor time but if he is considered an elite corner a 4.47 is not ideal. Now why was it a 4.47? Was he not prepared? That isn't good. Was it poor form/start? That is fine.

Does anybody have more information on him? Is he a good man to man guy or more of a cover 2 corner with his size?



4.47 is plenty fast for a CB. Antonio Cromartie ran a 4.47, Richard Sherman ran a 4.56, Talib a 4.44 and they did quite well for themselves. He is a big corner at 6'1


As I said in my post, there are many reasons for it. Yes, you can add Norman to that list too of slow 40s. Sherman was also drafted later in the draft. Low 4.4s is solid. 4.3s is better for "elite" prospects. I never said he couldn't be good with a 4.47 but I want to know why? Does his speed show up on tape? I just want to know more about him and that seems like a difficult thing to do. There doesn't seem to be much video of him. That is why I am asking. There is so much more that goes into being a corner than straight line speed.
RE: here's an analysis fom Rotoworld...  
Steve in South Jersey : 7/11/2018 12:28 pm : link
In comment 14010780 Mike in St. Louis said:
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has Beal going I the third round to the Bills... Link - ( New Window )


Does anyone else get a security warning blocking that link?

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Invalid name of certificate. Either the name is not on the allowed list, or was explicitly excluded.


I am using Firefox and Kaspersky Internet Security.

Updates  
Defenderdawg : 7/11/2018 12:28 pm : link
Jordan Raanan (@JordanRaanan)
7/11/18, 8:59 AM
Supplemental draft is today. Two CBs — Sam Beal (Western Michigan) and Adonis Alexander (Va. Tech) — likely to be drafted. #Giants could use talent at that position. We’ll see if they bite.

Art Stapleton (@art_stapleton)
7/11/18, 9:08 AM
This would be a long-term play with possible short-term gains. One thing I've learned about Gettleman's way of doing things in short time: he trusts his evaluation.
If Giants project Beal or Alexander as draftable for 2019, they'll consider putting in a bid now.

Seifert ESPN (above referenced article)

“Got it. Let's get to the players. What's so great about Beal?

He is a big (6-foot-1) corner who ran a 4.47 in the 40-yard dash during a recent workout and has demonstrated high-end ability to cover on the outside. "I think he's going to be a starter within three years for whatever team drafts him," Muench said, "and a really good starter at that. You have someone with that frame and those skills, and that's what teams look for." Muench gave Beal, who was ruled academically ineligible this spring, a second-round grade in terms of talent.”

Let's start with Alexander. What about him -- other than his great name?

Alexander had some early media momentum as a 2019 first-round pick. He certainly looks the part, with the kind of 6-foot-3 frame that scouts increasingly have been tasked with finding. But opinions are mixed now after a poor workout that included only nine reps of 225 pounds. "So you know there isn't great upper-body strength there," Muench said. "When you watch him play, you see some speed concerns. He does not recover well. He is a good tackler though. He is a challenge for people going through the evaluation process. To me, he's a versatile defensive back who can help out on special teams. Do you take a guy like that in the supplemental draft? I don't know."

Eric Galko (@OptimumScouting)
7/11/18, 12:00 PM
Update on my Supplemental Draft Predictions (in order):

CB Sam Beal (2nd-3rd): #Chiefs, #Browns, #Seahawks

CB Adonis Alexander (4-5): #Seahawks, #Jets, #Redskins

SAF Brandon Bryant (6-7): #Rams, #Steelers, #Cowboys

It sounds like 2 guys will be picked up  
ZogZerg : 7/11/2018 12:31 pm : link
during the SD.
RE: I know 40 times aren't a great measure of an athlete and  
NYG27 : 7/11/2018 12:32 pm : link
In comment 14010781 robbieballs2003 said:
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There are probably reasons for a poor time but if he is considered an elite corner a 4.47 is not ideal. Now why was it a 4.47? Was he not prepared? That isn't good. Was it poor form/start? That is fine.

Does anybody have more information on him? Is he a good man to man guy or more of a cover 2 corner with his size?


Rob, reading Rotoworld, Beal had timed at 4.40 and 4.51 at his pro day, with it being noted the difference in times being wind related and running into the wind on his second attempt.

If he went to the climate controlled combine in Indy, he should be able to showcased that 4.40 speed if not faster.

Remember, unlike all these other draft prospect, Beal didn't spend months training for the combine. He initially was going to return back to graduate from college, which was a goal of his. The NCAA, because of grades and make up credits, wasn't going to rule him eligible to play in 2018 till late summer. So since it was uncertain he would play or not, Beal entered the Supplemental Draft.
My main question about the supplemental draft  
Sneakers O'toole : 7/11/2018 12:37 pm : link
is how it works in relation to therookie pay scale system in place now
RE: My main question about the supplemental draft  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/11/2018 12:45 pm : link
In comment 14010818 Sneakers O'toole said:
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is how it works in relation to therookie pay scale system in place now


Probably get pegged for the same round money and spot of the team for the real draft.

RE: My main question about the supplemental draft  
NYG27 : 7/11/2018 12:45 pm : link
Sneakers O'toole said:
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is how it works in relation to the rookie pay scale system in place now


Looking at Josh Gordon's rookie contract he signed in 2012, it's equal to the regular rookie pay scale. So if the Giants bid their 3rd round pick for Beal, he should roughly get a similar contract that Lorenzo Carter signed with the Giants as the 3rd round pick in the 2018 draft (4 years, $4.1 million and $1.05 million signing bonus)

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Josh Gordon's contract is worth just over $5.3 million and includes $3.8 million in guarantees, which is consistent with Gordon's draft slot. The Browns selected Gordon with the second pick in the second round of Thursday's supplemental draft, making the value of his rookie contract equivalent to the 34th overall pick of this year's regular draft.

St. Louis Rams wide receiver Brian Quick, the first player selected in the second round of April's draft, signed a four-year, $5.386 million rookie contract that included $3.822 million in guaranteed money.
One good thing, is that  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/11/2018 12:46 pm : link
we are really an attractive landing spot, if either of these CBs and or Safety don't get taken. I'm sure we would be all over them as UFAs.
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Burt64 : 7/11/2018 1:11 pm : link
No players were selected in the first round of the NFL supplemental draft, source said. No surprise. On to Round 2. All teams on the clock concurrently for 10 minutes.
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robbieballs2003 : 7/11/2018 1:14 pm : link
In comment 14010814 NYG27 said:
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In comment 14010781 robbieballs2003 said:


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There are probably reasons for a poor time but if he is considered an elite corner a 4.47 is not ideal. Now why was it a 4.47? Was he not prepared? That isn't good. Was it poor form/start? That is fine.

Does anybody have more information on him? Is he a good man to man guy or more of a cover 2 corner with his size?



Rob, reading Rotoworld, Beal had timed at 4.40 and 4.51 at his pro day, with it being noted the difference in times being wind related and running into the wind on his second attempt.

If he went to the climate controlled combine in Indy, he should be able to showcased that 4.40 speed if not faster.

Remember, unlike all these other draft prospect, Beal didn't spend months training for the combine. He initially was going to return back to graduate from college, which was a goal of his. The NCAA, because of grades and make up credits, wasn't going to rule him eligible to play in 2018 till late summer. So since it was uncertain he would play or not, Beal entered the Supplemental Draft.


Thank you.
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robbieballs2003 : 7/11/2018 1:14 pm : link
In comment 14010854 Burt64 said:
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No players were selected in the first round of the NFL supplemental draft, source said. No surprise. On to Round 2. All teams on the clock concurrently for 10 minutes.


Nice. Keep us posted.
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robbieballs2003 : 7/11/2018 1:16 pm : link
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Rob Rang
Twitter › RobRang
Breaking: The Oakland Raiders won the lottery and will have the first pick of each round in the 2018 NFL supplemental draft. Followed by the Jets, Giants, Browns, Broncos.
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Burt64 : 7/11/2018 1:21 pm : link
No players taken in Round 2
Sub 4.5 is plenty fast for a CB  
JonC : 7/11/2018 1:22 pm : link
There aren't many who run sub 4.4, usually they're playing WR unless they've got stone hands, etc.
To get Beal we might have to use our 3rd.  
Andy in Halifax : 7/11/2018 1:27 pm : link
Which would actually seem to be pretty good value based on estimated for his 2019 draft position.
We did!  
Andy in Halifax : 7/11/2018 1:31 pm : link
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Nice!!  
cminetti5 : 7/11/2018 1:34 pm : link
!!!
Great News!!!  
NYG27 : 7/11/2018 1:40 pm : link
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Burt64 : 7/11/2018 1:42 pm : link
No players taken in Round 4
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Burt64 : 7/11/2018 1:51 pm : link
No players taken in Round 4
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Burt64 : 7/11/2018 1:52 pm : link
*Round 5
There have to  
dune69 : 7/11/2018 1:54 pm : link
be teams sitting right behind us in the 3rd round that are very disappointed. Good reach.
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Burt64 : 7/11/2018 2:01 pm : link
The #Redskins have selected Virginia Tech CB Adonis Alexander in the sixth round of the NFL supplemental draft.
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