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BREAKING NEWS: DB Sam Beal of Western Michigan

Burt64 : 7/11/2018 1:32 pm
BREAKING NEWS: DB Sam Beal of Western Michigan has been selected by the NY Giants in the 3rd round of the NFL Supplemental Draft
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I hope you are right  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/11/2018 1:33 pm : link
we could use the help!
Wow  
jeff57 : 7/11/2018 1:33 pm : link
They're really going for it now.
Great news  
gmen9892 : 7/11/2018 1:33 pm : link
Love taking a chance on this kid. 3rd round is worth it IMO.
Hope you're right  
bradshaw44 : 7/11/2018 1:34 pm : link
Or banned! LOL
.  
Danny Kanell : 7/11/2018 1:34 pm : link
Is this our first supplemental draft pick since this guy?...

Nice  
YAJ2112 : 7/11/2018 1:35 pm : link
was hoping we'd get him in the third.
This is big. CB was a huge concern and Beal can play  
jlukes : 7/11/2018 1:36 pm : link
outside and inside on nickel.
Sam Beal's contract should be similar to Lorenzo Carter  
NYG27 : 7/11/2018 1:37 pm : link
Looking at Josh Gordon's rookie contract he signed in 2012, it's equal to the regular rookie pay scale. So if the Giants bid their 3rd round pick for Beal, he should roughly get a similar contract that Lorenzo Carter signed with the Giants as the 3rd round pick in the 2018 draft (4 years, $4.1 million and $1.05 million signing bonus)

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Josh Gordon's contract is worth just over $5.3 million and includes $3.8 million in guarantees, which is consistent with Gordon's draft slot. The Browns selected Gordon with the second pick in the second round of Thursday's supplemental draft, making the value of his rookie contract equivalent to the 34th overall pick of this year's regular draft.

St. Louis Rams wide receiver Brian Quick, the first player selected in the second round of April's draft, signed a four-year, $5.386 million rookie contract that included $3.822 million in guaranteed money.
Could have been a first round pick  
jeff57 : 7/11/2018 1:37 pm : link
in next year's draft.
RE: .  
Mr. Bungle : 7/11/2018 1:37 pm : link
In comment 14010880 Danny Kanell said:
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Is this our first supplemental draft pick since this guy?...


Tito Wooten in 1994.
The title on this article may be hyperbole  
Giantology : 7/11/2018 1:40 pm : link
But a good read on Beal's background here
Sam Beal: Meet the Best Supplemental Draft Prospect Since Josh Gordon - ( New Window )
Unexpectedly aggressive move for the Giants.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/11/2018 1:41 pm : link
Good luck to the kid.
Yet another smart decision implemented by our FO  
Torrag : 7/11/2018 1:43 pm : link
He's a talented player at what is probably our greatest position of need. Gettelamn and Co. have really done solid work since he took over. They've accurately assesesed the roster shortcomings and have effectively tapped into all avenues of personnel acquisition resources available to address them.
Sexy moves...  
bradshaw44 : 7/11/2018 1:45 pm : link
Win now mode DG. I like it.
WOW was not expecting this but love it  
BigBlue4You09 : 7/11/2018 1:45 pm : link
They really aren't messing around, love this new front office
now let's spend a 6 or 7  
Giantsfan79 : 7/11/2018 1:46 pm : link
on one of the other CBs and turn a weakness into a strength
Giants give up 3rd round pick in 2019 draft for this  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 7/11/2018 1:46 pm : link
.
This is great news  
Phil in LA : 7/11/2018 1:46 pm : link
and fills their biggest need. I think he would have been a second or even first if he'd stayed in school. Nice value.
SAD  
Joey from GlenCove : 7/11/2018 1:46 pm : link
i thought i was going to get my first sticky ever
RE: Giants give up 3rd round pick in 2019 draft for this  
Jon in NYC : 7/11/2018 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14010903 Bold Ruler said:
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The last pick of the third is a small price to pay.
RE: Yet another smart decision implemented by our FO  
Danny Kanell : 7/11/2018 1:48 pm : link
In comment 14010899 Torrag said:
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He's a talented player at what is probably our greatest position of need. Gettelamn and Co. have really done solid work since he took over. They've accurately assesesed the roster shortcomings and have effectively tapped into all avenues of personnel acquisition resources available to address them.


It's refreshing but it's also alot easier to assess, admit and attack roster shortcomings when you weren't the cause of the shortcomings.
Bleacher Report article  
BigBlue4You09 : 7/11/2018 1:48 pm : link
...

Sam Beal: Meet the Best Supplemental Draft Prospect Since Josh Gordon - ( New Window )
This guy and Davis Webb can reverse the 3rd round NYG curse  
Chris684 : 7/11/2018 1:51 pm : link
Owa, Bromley, Damontre Moore, Hosley and Jernigan.

Ugh.
RE: This guy and Davis Webb can reverse the 3rd round NYG curse  
robbieballs2003 : 7/11/2018 1:53 pm : link
In comment 14010912 Chris684 said:
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Owa, Bromley, Damontre Moore, Hosley and Jernigan.

Ugh.


How about Carter?
Beal  
jeff57 : 7/11/2018 1:53 pm : link
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Beal has a lot going for him as a cover corner. In speaking with team sources, they felt that his ball-reaction skills were his best trait. Beal tracks the football extremely well while running downfield. He high points the ball and is adept at breaking up passes to prevent completions. Beal doesn't panic when the ball is coming toward him and is a real competitor with receivers. He is a physical corner with good length to take on big receivers. At his size, Beal has the ability to be an outside starter in the NFL.

There are some coverage issues that Beal needs to improve on, and that is why some teams sources thought he should have returned for his senior year. Beal can grab too much on receivers and be overly physical downfield. That could lead to issues with pass interference penalties as a pro. Beal needs to improve his skills to run with receivers without grabbing and holding them while running downfield. There also are some evaluators who question Beal's deep speed, and they have some concerns about him taking on elite deep threats. Thus, Beal could use some development in the NFL before being placed in the starting lineup.

Some team sources are very high on Beal and say he has first-round talent. Others say he is a legit second-round prospect.



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Sy really dropping the ball  
Keith : 7/11/2018 1:53 pm : link
with no supplemental preview, haha.

Curious to see if this is someone Sy has scouted.
Carter as well, yes.  
Chris684 : 7/11/2018 1:53 pm : link
...
We picked up Tito Wooten at CB  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/11/2018 1:55 pm : link
in 1994 and he was pretty good for a while from what I remember.
RE: This guy and Davis Webb can reverse the 3rd round NYG curse  
Mr. Bungle : 7/11/2018 1:56 pm : link
In comment 14010912 Chris684 said:
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Owa, Bromley, Damontre Moore, Hosley and Jernigan.

Ugh.

Chad Jones. Ramses Barden. Travis Beckum. Curse, indeed.

Lorenzo Carter and B.J. Hill can do their part to reverse it, too.
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robbieballs2003 : 7/11/2018 2:04 pm : link
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DB Adonis Alexander of Virginia Tech has been selected by the Washington Redskins in the 6th round of the @NFL Supplemental Draft
This might be the first time in BBI history  
figgy2989 : 7/11/2018 2:08 pm : link
Where you won't find one person who has a problem with this.

Kid has no off field issues and had the potential to be a first round pick next year. He fell behind in credits after promising his mom that he was going to graduate. He would have had to wait until August on an NCAA decision if they would have allowed him to be eligible.

RE: We picked up Tito Wooten at CB  
Matt in SGS : 7/11/2018 2:08 pm : link
In comment 14010920 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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in 1994 and he was pretty good for a while from what I remember.


He was a safety, and he was good until off field trouble caught up with him.
Awesome  
ryanmkeane : 7/11/2018 2:09 pm : link
news
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arcarsenal : 7/11/2018 2:10 pm : link
Awesome. Love this move.
I'm excited about this pick  
Matt in SGS : 7/11/2018 2:10 pm : link
the Giants need to keep filling in talent at corner. We all know that Eli Apple has a very short leash and the Giants have to be prepared to live without him just in case.
Interesting mild risk. Helps w depth immensely  
giantsFC : 7/11/2018 2:12 pm : link
Hope it works out as that was a huge weakness. I would be a bit more upset as I didnt think he warranted more than a 4th, but given the giants 3rd round track history csn it get any worse?
Awesome news  
Jay on the Island : 7/11/2018 2:13 pm : link
The Giants get a guy who could have been a 1st round pick in next years draft a year early. The Giants are really desperate for depth at CB and now they have added Beal and Grant Haley to the mix. Now let's just hope that Beal can get caught up and actually contribute this year as the 3rd or 4th CB.

This was a very aggressive and smart move by Gettleman.
Can't say I've watched him at Western Michigan  
Anakim : 7/11/2018 2:13 pm : link
But I do like that we took a CB. We completely ignored the position in the Draft and signed Grant Haley whose ceiling is a nickel.

The position is suspect. Jackrabbit had a rough year last year and who knows if the situation with his brother will distract. Still, we're counting on him as our #1 CB.

Eli Apple has done well this summer, but we can't forget that last year was an utter disaster for him on and off the field.

And then after those two are even more question Mark's. Let's hope Beal develops well and a position of weakness becomes a strength.
Pro day #'s from Gil Brandt  
Eric on Li : 7/11/2018 2:14 pm : link
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Pro day numbers for Beal:

Height: 6-0 7/8
Weight: 178
40: 4.47/4.55
Vertical: 37
Broad: 10-6
Short shuttle: 4.09
3-cone: 7.11
Bench: DNP


178 is very light. All those numbers are comparable to Apple, except for the fact that he weighed 199.
Well  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/11/2018 2:16 pm : link
this changes the defensive backs write-up I've been working on.
I hope our beloved GM is well enough to  
Phil in LA : 7/11/2018 2:17 pm : link
give us the breakdown, because he was so entertaining during the draft.
RE: Pro day #'s from Gil Brandt  
gmen9892 : 7/11/2018 2:17 pm : link
In comment 14010942 Eric on Li said:
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Gil Brandt
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Pro day numbers for Beal:

Height: 6-0 7/8
Weight: 178
40: 4.47/4.55
Vertical: 37
Broad: 10-6
Short shuttle: 4.09
3-cone: 7.11
Bench: DNP



178 is very light. All those numbers are comparable to Apple, except for the fact that he weighed 199.


Thats the beauty of getting this guy into the weight lifting program a year earlier. He has a chance to put on weight now and learn the scheme. Would have been behind on all of that had he stayed in school one more year.
A 6'1 corner will ball skills...  
VinegarPeppers : 7/11/2018 2:18 pm : link
...thats a serious acquisition. Essentially could be getting first round 2019 talent at a need position for a 3rd round pick.

Love the aggression of the front office. Lets go get this!

I still bring DRC back. He'd be a great teacher for Beal too.
The Giants may have really got a good player  
ZogZerg : 7/11/2018 2:19 pm : link
I like this (from article above):

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Unlike most supplemental draft prospects of the last decade, Beal doesn't come with red flags off the field. There are no reported failed drug tests. There are no coaches throwing him under the bus as a bad teammate. Instead, a college kid got behind on some credits and was in danger of losing his eligibility. And now NFL teams are ready to jump on this rare opportunity.
..may have really "gotten" a good player  
ZogZerg : 7/11/2018 2:20 pm : link
wow.., that was bad
Still should bring DRC back  
Rflairr : 7/11/2018 2:22 pm : link
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must be talented  
Rflairr : 7/11/2018 2:24 pm : link
@mortreport
Giants had 2nd pick of 3rd round for this draft. Beal was going to some team in this round. Nobody jumped with a 2nd rounder despite temptations.
I like the move - getting a talented player in 1 year earlier  
Eric on Li : 7/11/2018 2:25 pm : link
than they would otherwise. plus they will probably get a comp pick for Pugh or Richburg or both that will help make up for the loss of a pick next year.

That said, I don't buy the "first round pick next year". His production was decent (10 breakups, 2 career INTs were both this past year) and his measurables are solid. He probably would have had to improve a lot to get into the first round convo. Probably also fair to say he would have been in the top 100 conversation, and that's about the price they paid, plus they got him a year early.
RE: Can't say I've watched him at Western Michigan  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/11/2018 2:26 pm : link
In comment 14010941 Anakim said:
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But I do like that we took a CB. We completely ignored the position in the Draft and signed Grant Haley whose ceiling is a nickel.

The position is suspect. Jackrabbit had a rough year last year and who knows if the situation with his brother will distract. Still, we're counting on him as our #1 CB.

Eli Apple has done well this summer, but we can't forget that last year was an utter disaster for him on and off the field.

And then after those two are even more question Mark's. Let's hope Beal develops well and a position of weakness becomes a strength.


We also picked up William Gay, who is old, but can play in sub packages and serve as a mentor.
10 Minutes Ago...  
Jim in Tampa : 7/11/2018 2:26 pm : link
I had no idea that the supplemental draft was being held today or that there were even any draft-worthy players we might be interested in.

It's like getting an unexpected gift delivered by FedEx.
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