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SCOUTING SAM BEAL

Shogun86 : 7/11/2018 3:01 pm
From reading Gil Brandt's scouting report to speaking to several talent evaluators throughout the NFL, Sam Beal is apparently a 1st round level talent and is a complete steal for the Giants. He'll be a HUGE asset for the Giants moving forward and has NONE of the red flags other former supplemental picks have had. May quickly establish himself ahead of Apple on the depth chart throughout the season and perhaps even Jenkins depending if his play is impacted by off the field issues. Amazingly savvy pick by Dave Gettleman for what should soon become a household name.
Gil Brandt Sam Beal - ( New Window )
You think Beal will be our number one corner over Jenkins?  
robbieballs2003 : 7/11/2018 3:03 pm : link
This is more absurd than people saying Barkley will lead the league in rushing. Why can we not just have a nice player added onto our team without getting into these crazy projections?
He's  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/11/2018 3:19 pm : link
a very solid prospect, but let's not go overboard.
Nice player  
rvwnk : 7/11/2018 3:24 pm : link
I don't think Barkley and "nice player" belong in the same sentence. If everyone is conservative about what they say on BBi, it sounds boring to me.
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arcarsenal : 7/11/2018 3:25 pm : link
Yeah, let's not get nuts here. Really like this move, but I'd be stunned if he's better than Jenkins.
This  
Bluesbreaker : 7/11/2018 3:26 pm : link
He's
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3:19 pm : link : reply
a very solid prospect, but let's not go overboard.

Lets hope he pans out I like the size a little on the thin
size I wonder what his 40 is ...
Beal  
AndyB : 7/11/2018 3:27 pm : link
Beal is a press/man corner who, at 178 pounds right now, doesn't tackle well enough to play Cover-2 or to be a significant contributor on special teams.

He's had no offseason conditioning program, no OTA's, and no mini-camps. He will start training camp way, way behind.

Beal will likely be inactive on game days for much of the season.
RE: Nice player  
robbieballs2003 : 7/11/2018 3:27 pm : link
In comment 14011017 rvwnk said:
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I don't think Barkley and "nice player" belong in the same sentence. If everyone is conservative about what they say on BBi, it sounds boring to me.


Barkley and nice player were put in the same sentence?
RE: This  
Steve in South Jersey : 7/11/2018 3:33 pm : link
In comment 14011021 Bluesbreaker said:
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He's
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3:19 pm : link : reply
a very solid prospect, but let's not go overboard.

Lets hope he pans out I like the size a little on the thin
size I wonder what his 40 is ...


I think he ran 4.47 ... maybe on his pro day.
RE: Beal  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/11/2018 3:33 pm : link
In comment 14011024 AndyB said:
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Beal is a press/man corner who, at 178 pounds right now, doesn't tackle well enough to play Cover-2 or to be a significant contributor on special teams.

He's had no offseason conditioning program, no OTA's, and no mini-camps. He will start training camp way, way behind.

Beal will likely be inactive on game days for much of the season.


Ugh your whole post is moronic. He is going to be pretty high on depth chart, possibly the 3rd corner. You don't spend a 3rd round pick on first round talent THIS YEAR and have him ride the bench.
what third round pick  
Rocky369 : 7/11/2018 3:37 pm : link
is guaranteed playing time, ever?

and from the other thread
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Donít think itís a mistake.
Beal unlikely to have much of impact this year. Some teams had concerns about both shoulders. 2nd round currency not to be spent lightly.
Beal  
TommyWiseau : 7/11/2018 3:40 pm : link
Is a damn good prospect that I was hoping we could land. This team needs all the talent it can get and this kid is just that, solid talent. Get him in an NFL weight training program and lets see what he can turn into. Beats the 4th or 5th corners we have been trotting out there the last 5 years
His athletic numbers...  
Dan in the Springs : 7/11/2018 3:41 pm : link
are not off the charts. 7.11 3-cone isn't amazing, nor is the 4.47/4.55 40 at a pro day, when times are often reported lower than in Indy.

I'm hoping for the best, but this isn't an elite prospect, more hopefully a nice red-chipper. I'm thinking less Deion Sanders and more Terrell Thomas as his best-case scenario.
I loved the Beal pick  
Jay on the Island : 7/11/2018 3:45 pm : link
But expecting him to surpass Jenkins on the depth chart is absurd. Two years ago Jenkins was arguably a top 3 CB in football. Beal is way behind the other rookies as he has missed all the OTA's and minicamps so far. I will be thrilled if Beal becomes the primary nickelback this season. Beal could be a long term building block but let's not put too much pressure on the kid for year one. Save that for Barkley :)
RE: what third round pick  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/11/2018 3:46 pm : link
In comment 14011043 Rocky369 said:
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is guaranteed playing time, ever?

and from the other thread


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@mortreport
3m3 minutes ago
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Donít think itís a mistake.
Beal unlikely to have much of impact this year. Some teams had concerns about both shoulders. 2nd round currency not to be spent lightly.



If our depth at corner didn't suck right now, I would certainly agree. I don't think there is any reason he couldn't get to 4th possibly 5th on the depth chart.
RE: His athletic numbers...  
Jay on the Island : 7/11/2018 3:46 pm : link
In comment 14011046 Dan in the Springs said:
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are not off the charts. 7.11 3-cone isn't amazing, nor is the 4.47/4.55 40 at a pro day, when times are often reported lower than in Indy.

I'm hoping for the best, but this isn't an elite prospect, more hopefully a nice red-chipper. I'm thinking less Deion Sanders and more Terrell Thomas as his best-case scenario.

If he becomes a healthy Terrell Thomas or a Corey Webster type then I will be very happy with that outcome.
RE: RE: His athletic numbers...  
Dan in the Springs : 7/11/2018 3:50 pm : link
In comment 14011054 Jay on the Island said:
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If he becomes a healthy Terrell Thomas or a Corey Webster type then I will be very happy with that outcome.


Me too. That's absolutely what I'm hoping for.
This made  
Phil in LA : 7/11/2018 3:58 pm : link
perfect sense for the Giants and thatís all we can ask.
All I'm hoping for is  
bradshaw44 : 7/11/2018 4:02 pm : link
him to perform adequately. Make more plays then not. I would love Darell Revis but I'll take Terrel Thomas.
I'd rather pickup Jessica Beal...  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 7/11/2018 4:04 pm : link
Seems to be a solid pick, considering our need too. Gettleman has done it again!
RE: .  
mrvax : 7/11/2018 4:13 pm : link
In comment 14011018 arcarsenal said:
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Yeah, let's not get nuts here. Really like this move, but I'd be stunned if he's better than Jenkins.


Not even Revis could make that claim in his rookie year.
AndyB isn't wrong in the sense he's already way behind  
JonC : 7/11/2018 4:44 pm : link
and the OP is sorely underestimate Jackrabbit, oofah.
RE: RE: Beal  
Mr. Bungle : 7/11/2018 4:59 pm : link
In comment 14011035 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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Ugh your whole post is moronic. He is going to be pretty high on depth chart, possibly the 3rd corner. You don't spend a 3rd round pick on first round talent THIS YEAR and have him ride the bench.

He's not "first round talent." He was taken in the 3rd round of the supplemental draft. That's what he is.
RE: He's  
AcidTest : 7/11/2018 5:02 pm : link
In comment 14011015 Eric from BBI said:
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a very solid prospect, but let's not go overboard.


^This. It's a great move by Gettleman and the FO, but he's still just a rookie whose behind everyone. I'm hoping we get some flashes from him as the season progresses, but he's really for depth right now. He needs to add weight, and acclimate himself to the NFL.
Agree he is behind for sure  
NoGainDayne : 7/11/2018 5:15 pm : link
but no reason he canít be a nickel corner. May be a liability vs. the run but bare minimum he will get looks in the dime. Which is great for us. Makes it harder for us to get beat by teams with depth at WR which is similar to what DRC did for us 2 years ago
Info from Giants.com  
geepeegee : 7/11/2018 5:19 pm : link
See the link below for more info on Beal:
here - ( New Window )
RE: RE: RE: Beal  
gmen9892 : 7/11/2018 5:27 pm : link
In comment 14011140 Mr. Bungle said:
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In comment 14011035 BigBlueDownTheShore said:


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Ugh your whole post is moronic. He is going to be pretty high on depth chart, possibly the 3rd corner. You don't spend a 3rd round pick on first round talent THIS YEAR and have him ride the bench.


He's not "first round talent." He was taken in the 3rd round of the supplemental draft. That's what he is.


We can't say that hes not a 1st round talent. More than likely a 2nd rounder, but he was supposed to go back to school this year. Academics are why he is in the supplemental draft this year. If he went back to school and excelled this coming season, there is a chance he could have worked himself into a late 1st round early 2nd round pick.
We needed a corner  
WillieYoung : 7/11/2018 5:49 pm : link
He's a nice prospect whether he starts or not. We leveraged having a bad season last year into a selection that wouldn't have been available in the 3rd round next year (nor would comparable talent be available). He contributes anything this year we hit a home run. What's not to like?
I think he has a good football name, that is all I know about him  
wgenesis123 : 7/11/2018 6:39 pm : link
at this point. No 3rd round pick next year so don't expect Giants to move up in round one. QB's will likely be who we got now.
He is bit slender....otherwise, all looks good  
George from PA : 7/11/2018 6:53 pm : link
Can definitely compete for 3rd, 4th or 5th corner....right away.



So how many potential rookies contributors?
6!
RE: He's  
micky : 7/11/2018 6:55 pm : link
In comment 14011015 Eric from BBI said:
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a very solid prospect, but let's not go overboard.


1000%
Sam Beal highlights ...  
Manny in CA : 7/11/2018 6:56 pm : link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbs14aJzhJY
RE: Beal  
KeoweeFan : 7/11/2018 8:21 pm : link
In comment 14011024 AndyB said:
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Beal is a press/man corner who, at 178 pounds right now, doesn't tackle well enough to play Cover-2 or to be a significant contributor on special teams.

He's had no offseason conditioning program, no OTA's, and no mini-camps. He will start training camp way, way behind.

Beal will likely be inactive on game days for much of the season.

To (loosely) quote Dave Gettleman "We got our 2019 third round pick a year early".

From THAT perspective you could argue that instead of the negative of missing the spring, the positive is that Sam will have a full summer camp, preseason games and the full 2018 season to learn. He will be WAY ahead of any other 2019 3rd rounder.

I don't look for him to be a starter, but I doubt he will be inactive for many games.

In addition, as someone else ausuteley recognised, what would have been our ACTUAL 2019 pick hopefully will be a lot later than this year's #66.

RE: AndyB isn't wrong in the sense he's already way behind  
KeoweeFan : 7/11/2018 8:28 pm : link
In comment 14011117 JonC said:
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and the OP is sorely underestimate Jackrabbit, oofah.

BUT HE IS NOT WAY BEHIND FOR A 2019 PICK.
And the 3rd round, even if he came out this year is a reasonable if not conservative slot.

And of course the NYG didn't select him in order to displace Jenkins in September (or in 2018).
RE: He's  
Jay in Toronto : 7/11/2018 8:36 pm : link
In comment 14011015 Eric from BBI said:
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a very solid prospect, but let's not go overboard.


Agreed. I hate 3 threads (so far) - see my comment on first thread.
He was 178 pounds on his pro-day but,  
short lease : 7/11/2018 10:16 pm : link
I read an article that said he played at near 190. He lost the weight on purpose to test better in the drills.


he's our 2019 3rd round pick  
NYG007 : 7/12/2018 9:42 am : link
A guy with BIG upside. Some of us are looking at this the wrong way, worried about 2018. Anything we get from him in 2018 is a BONUS!! HE IS OUR 2019 3RD ROUND PICK! We are getting him early if you look at it that way. Now he can develop. If he is active by week 8/9/10 we got him a year early based on what we gave up!

This is a good pick, one our Giants have plenty of time for impact for his 2019 season, glass half full!
RE: he's our 2019 3rd round pick  
PatersonPlank : 7/12/2018 9:53 am : link
In comment 14011542 NYG007 said:
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A guy with BIG upside. Some of us are looking at this the wrong way, worried about 2018. Anything we get from him in 2018 is a BONUS!! HE IS OUR 2019 3RD ROUND PICK! We are getting him early if you look at it that way. Now he can develop. If he is active by week 8/9/10 we got him a year early based on what we gave up!

This is a good pick, one our Giants have plenty of time for impact for his 2019 season, glass half full!


I agree, I really like this pick. IMO he can be a solid NFL CB. If we view him as a 2019 pick then he looks really good. If he can help this year even better.
Nice pick up for the Giants  
AnnapolisMike : 7/12/2018 10:01 am : link
In an area of need. You effectively made your 2019 3rd round pick 10 months early. Maybe he will bust...but at no greater risk than any other 3rd round pick.
RE: We needed a corner  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 7/12/2018 10:53 am : link
In comment 14011181 WillieYoung said:
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He's a nice prospect whether he starts or not. We leveraged having a bad season last year into a selection that wouldn't have been available in the 3rd round next year (nor would comparable talent be available). He contributes anything this year we hit a home run. What's not to like?

It's like Gettleman built us a time machine and drafted us a CB from The Future!

Not too familiar with supp draft, but I assume we straight up "traded" this years 3-13 3rd round pick for next year's 16-0 3rd pick? Even better.
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