NFT: "Yankees make a strong offer for Machado" - MLB.com

In comment 14011917 robbieballs2003 said:

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In comment 14011914 mattyblue said: Quote: In comment 14011906 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: Machado does not mean that Machado is our starting 3B in 2019. Those are two different events. No decision has to be made on Andujar immediately if we get Machado. What if we get Machado, trade Andujar, and Machado signs somewhere else in the offseason? Who is our 3B then? Odds are if we trade for Machado that we will resign him long term but until he signs a contract that cannot be assumed. I understand what you are saying, but let�s say the Yankees get Manny and sign him. What happens to Andujar at that point? He goes down to AAA and is insurance in case something happens with Didi or Machado in terms of injuries. He is also insurance in case Machado leaves in FA. He is also a trade chip now as well. Why are so many concerned with what is going to happen with Andujar? It isn't like his life is being sacrificed to please the Gods.

yes i agree. btw andujar would not be sent down, DH at the very least IMO...problem is it could make stanton an everyday OF, but i still expect andujar to be on the 40 man. that is if he isnt traded. my guess is if the yanks make this move for MM, they feel they can a. extend him b. have a deal for a SP that includes andujar. its possible frazier never gets traded and remains on roster. andujar + for a SP and the above package of 4 for MM.

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In comment 14011933 Dave in Hoboken said:

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Jon Morosi ‏ Verified account Trade Deadline #TBT: @Yankees talked about acquiring David Price from the #Tigers and Cole Hamels from the #Phillies, three years ago this month. Two prospects Brian Cashman would not trade: Luis Severino and Aaron Judge. @MLB @MLBNetwork

Damn skippy

In comment 14011933 Dave in Hoboken said:

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Jon Morosi ‏ Verified account Trade Deadline #TBT: @Yankees talked about acquiring David Price from the #Tigers and Cole Hamels from the #Phillies, three years ago this month. Two prospects Brian Cashman would not trade: Luis Severino and Aaron Judge. @MLB @MLBNetwork

Whatever. Cashman�s useless.

-Essex

In comment 14011926 BleedBlue said:

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In comment 14011917 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: In comment 14011914 mattyblue said: Quote: In comment 14011906 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: Machado does not mean that Machado is our starting 3B in 2019. Those are two different events. No decision has to be made on Andujar immediately if we get Machado. What if we get Machado, trade Andujar, and Machado signs somewhere else in the offseason? Who is our 3B then? Odds are if we trade for Machado that we will resign him long term but until he signs a contract that cannot be assumed. I understand what you are saying, but let�s say the Yankees get Manny and sign him. What happens to Andujar at that point? He goes down to AAA and is insurance in case something happens with Didi or Machado in terms of injuries. He is also insurance in case Machado leaves in FA. He is also a trade chip now as well. Why are so many concerned with what is going to happen with Andujar? It isn't like his life is being sacrificed to please the Gods. yes i agree. btw andujar would not be sent down, DH at the very least IMO...problem is it could make stanton an everyday OF, but i still expect andujar to be on the 40 man. that is if he isnt traded. my guess is if the yanks make this move for MM, they feel they can a. extend him b. have a deal for a SP that includes andujar. its possible frazier never gets traded and remains on roster. andujar + for a SP and the above package of 4 for MM.

DH? What about Stanton?????


Andujar goes down like Monica did on Bubba.

doesn't mean he is magically cured of whatever malaise afflicted his bat during his brief tenure in the majors, but he is much better than a .157 hitter and he has the ability to impact games with his speed to an extent that nobody else on the 40-man can. And he plays above average defense at a handful of positions.

if that asshat deal got it done. When the entire forum says that's a steal, it's probably too good to be true. Especially when we have quite a few people here who fall in the love with the prospects in general.

In comment 14011942 illmatic said:

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if that asshat deal got it done. When the entire forum says that's a steal, it's probably too good to be true. Especially when we have quite a few people here who fall in the love with the prospects in general.

point is that the Orioles waited too long to deal Manny and the price is going down because the Os want to trade him before they lose him to FA. It may bump up, but they are in dump mode and will be willing to trade for prospects.

but the ask is still high, because MVP-caliber players even as rentals have historically drawn a big return (though Cespedes and JD Martinez were not MVP-caliber players when traded). But Angelos is an obstacle, because he might sooner sit on a good but not great package than take what he can get.

is that Cashman can work in his usual stealth mode with other teams for pitching. Reporters now are focused on the "Manny to the Yankees" scenario as the major story. Now while this could happen,Cashman won't have as much focus on the pitching aspect & this is when he works best. Who knows,the Yankees might have been the ones planting the initial Manny rumors to serve as a deflection!

One thing really interferes with your analysis:

Levine and Trost were in charge for many of those down years. This is a matter of record. Their strategy, signings and intrusions are well documented.

Organizational reporting and a clear reporting line and clear decision rights from Cashman to Hal was first contractually established on October 10th, 2014.

2015, 2016 and 2017 were all on Cashman.

We agree that starting pitching FA have not gone so well for the Yankees with or without Cashman fully operating as a GM. Except for Pettite, Clemens, Hernandez, Tanaka, CC, Mussina and a few other HOF and near HOF pitchers.

Also Cashman gets a ton of credit and rightfully so, but the scouting and particularly player development folks were overhauled over the last few years and the results have been quite good. Eppler, Denbo and a number of the guys now in those positions have been some of the most effective in baseball at what they do.

another way to characterize it may be that they're not necessarily trying to drive the ask for Machado up so much as they're trying to drive the ask for some of the pitchers down by implying that they're not prioritizing pitching in their deadline moves.

was just on the MKS. I only heard half of the interview. He doesn't think the Yanks or red sux are getting him. He thinks that he will go to either Milwaukee, L.A. or Arizona.

barbeach: Keith: Thanks so much for doing these chats. Loved your book. If you�re Cashman, who are you NOT willing to part with to get Machado?
Keith Law: There�s no way I trade Sheffield, who could probably be their fifth starter in the second half, for two months of Machado. I�m not sure I�d trade him for any rental, really.

In comment 14011982 mitch300 said:

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was just on the MKS. I only heard half of the interview. He doesn't think the Yanks or red sux are getting him. He thinks that he will go to either Milwaukee, L.A. or Arizona.

he made it a point to say that it was his gut feeling and nothing more and that he was guessing...he also said yankees are very kuch in it

In comment 14011957 Dunedin81 said:

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but the ask is still high, because MVP-caliber players even as rentals have historically drawn a big return (though Cespedes and JD Martinez were not MVP-caliber players when traded). But Angelos is an obstacle, because he might sooner sit on a good but not great package than take what he can get.

Can't blame him if he does, but he will get a very good package for Manny. Maybe not "knock his socks off" very good, still very good.

Yep.

Imo, its fair to call out the period post the re-org on its own results and not lump them in with prior practices and preferences for long term contracts, older "stars" and guys who did not quite fit.

I point out that the cascade of tax deferements and Stadium financing payment terms also played a behind the scenes role in the new strategic direction

In comment 14011942 illmatic said:

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if that asshat deal got it done.

Yeah, you could fit an aircraft carrier through the gap between the Orioles wanting Sheffield and the Yankees giving up Drury, Adams, Tate, and Rogers.

In comment 14011994 Milton said:

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In comment 14011942 illmatic said: Quote: if that asshat deal got it done. Yeah, you could fit an aircraft carrier through the gap between the Orioles wanting Sheffield and the Yankees giving up Drury, Adams, Tate, and Rogers.

IDK, Drury is MLB-ready and potentially an above-average regular, and he has team control. Adams's star is on the way down, Tate (to an extent) on the way up, but each has been a top 100 prospect. And Rogers is a back end guy. It's not a terrible package.

In comment 14012000 Dunedin81 said:

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In comment 14011994 Milton said: Quote: In comment 14011942 illmatic said: Quote: if that asshat deal got it done. Yeah, you could fit an aircraft carrier through the gap between the Orioles wanting Sheffield and the Yankees giving up Drury, Adams, Tate, and Rogers. IDK, Drury is MLB-ready and potentially an above-average regular, and he has team control. Adams's star is on the way down, Tate (to an extent) on the way up, but each has been a top 100 prospect. And Rogers is a back end guy. It's not a terrible package.

Agreed, it's a bit of quantity over quality but not a terrible package. If they spice it up by subbing one of their high end arms in A ball or below (i.e. Medina, Schmidt, Sauer, Garcia) for Rogers it becomes a really solid offer.

In comment 14011937 Hsilwek92 said:

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In comment 14011933 Dave in Hoboken said: Quote: Jon Morosi � Verified account Trade Deadline #TBT: @Yankees talked about acquiring David Price from the #Tigers and Cole Hamels from the #Phillies, three years ago this month. Two prospects Brian Cashman would not trade: Luis Severino and Aaron Judge. @MLB @MLBNetwork Whatever. Cashman�s useless. -Essex

SO, Cashman is a genius for not trading Severino, who at the time was like on a streak of 7-0 with a 1.91 ERA and about to make his MLB Debut? Or not trading Judge who was one of the most intriguing prospects the scouts had seen. Please. My only point is the deference given to Cashman is insane given his results.

I also am not a guy who thinks it is a "matter of record" that he is just blameless for everything that went on prior to 2015, he was the GM for many years. What the level of interference was during those years nobody knows. And, of course, I have said he has done a good job of building the offense and the pen; what we need is not Machado, what we need is a pitcher who can get us some quality innings and let our BP alone. My biggest fear of this team is turning it over to the BP every night in the 5th or 6th inning and needing the BP to pitch lights out to preserve wins or keep us in games for our offense. That is a large task, one that I think we were fortunate enough to get away with last post-season, but I am unsure that we will get away with this post-season.

Gray is useless, CC is old and can give us quality starts in terms of productivity but we have to manage his innings for him to be effective and to have him be somewhat fresh in October, Tanaka is meh, inconsistent, averages about 5-6 innings a start and over the last two years have given us about a 4.5 era. Sevy is awesome and can give us quality starts with a good workload. That is where we need to focus, we can't hit our way out of that problem.

In comment 14012027 Essex said:

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In comment 14011937 Hsilwek92 said: Quote: In comment 14011933 Dave in Hoboken said: Quote: Jon Morosi � Verified account Trade Deadline #TBT: @Yankees talked about acquiring David Price from the #Tigers and Cole Hamels from the #Phillies, three years ago this month. Two prospects Brian Cashman would not trade: Luis Severino and Aaron Judge. @MLB @MLBNetwork Whatever. Cashman�s useless. -Essex SO, Cashman is a genius for not trading Severino, who at the time was like on a streak of 7-0 with a 1.91 ERA and about to make his MLB Debut? Or not trading Judge who was one of the most intriguing prospects the scouts had seen. Please. My only point is the deference given to Cashman is insane given his results. I also am not a guy who thinks it is a "matter of record" that he is just blameless for everything that went on prior to 2015, he was the GM for many years. What the level of interference was during those years nobody knows. And, of course, I have said he has done a good job of building the offense and the pen; what we need is not Machado, what we need is a pitcher who can get us some quality innings and let our BP alone. My biggest fear of this team is turning it over to the BP every night in the 5th or 6th inning and needing the BP to pitch lights out to preserve wins or keep us in games for our offense. That is a large task, one that I think we were fortunate enough to get away with last post-season, but I am unsure that we will get away with this post-season. Gray is useless, CC is old and can give us quality starts in terms of productivity but we have to manage his innings for him to be effective and to have him be somewhat fresh in October, Tanaka is meh, inconsistent, averages about 5-6 innings a start and over the last two years have given us about a 4.5 era. Sevy is awesome and can give us quality starts with a good workload. That is where we need to focus, we can't hit our way out of that problem.

Most reasonable fans wouldn't argue that the rotation gets dicey after Severino, but Tanaka definitely earned the benefit of the doubt after putting it to Houston in the ALCS last year. He�s still got the ability to pitch one hell of an individual game, but you have to take that with a pinch of blind faith if he doesn�t pick up his performance after the AS break.

With respect:

The Yankees ( entire fo for we do not know accountability prior to October 2014) have not done well with SP trades or FA. Neither have many at the top end scramble had more overall success with this category. Especially in the post steroids era elongated careers.
The likely answer and the original plan was to develop our own. Instead we got further faster than any fan or I suspect the Yankees did

And Boston using the other method of loading up fa and trades have done well. Temporarily.

So it is desirable to go get 1 to 2 SP sooner than planned ( no one planned grays performance or Montgomery getting injured).

But...that requires someone to trade with them. How is the lack of good SP trades anyone on the Yankees fault?

I tend to agree that absent a good trade I'd rather hold on to our best SP prospects.

Hopefully with this explanation we now violently agree.

Take care.

In comment 14012035 Bill2 said:

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With respect: The Yankees ( entire fo for we do not know accountability prior to October 2014) have not done well with SP trades or FA. Neither have many at the top end scramble had more overall success with this category. Especially in the post steroids era elongated careers. The likely answer and the original plan was to develop our own. Instead we got further faster than any fan or I suspect the Yankees did And Boston using the other method of loading up fa and trades have done well. Temporarily. So it is desirable to go get 1 to 2 SP sooner than planned ( no one planned grays performance or Montgomery getting injured). But...that requires someone to trade with them. How is the lack of good SP trades anyone on the Yankees fault? I tend to agree that absent a good trade I'd rather hold on to our best SP prospects. Hopefully with this explanation we now violently agree. Take care.

I think our only real area of disagreement is how much faith we have in Cashman. Many on here act like he is a rockstar GM and I just don't think that's the case. We can go back and forth on that point all night with the many moves he has succeeded with and the many that he hasn't, which is a waste of everyone's time. But, I respect your opinion and just will move on with my own about Cashman. At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is hoisting 28 up in the air this October/November.

Here is my concern:

I dont think the past moves make him good bad or indifferent. Had resources. Had mixed results given those resources. We were entertained.

The 96 to 2000 team was not his architecture.

The in between I dont know.

I have given patience to this latest era. I think it needs more. I think last years end point was a surprise and not a design. I dont think the new arms are ready. They most often lag position players in development time.

I hope I see Cashman hold to the strategy if nothing is there. We are almost at a dynasty.

I want to see if when the rubber meets the sky we believe in our way of competitive advantage or we turn into the PT Barnum Steinbrenner years.

So it's not the win loss of any one trade ( that's not always in control of anyone). I dont want to over rotate going for one year and then relying on the luxury tax re set to be foolish again.

Maybe we are saying the same things?

This was when it seem liked Levine & Trost were pushed into the background. Reading the linked article gives you an idea why hugging prospects always ends up with a lot of forgotten names too.

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Concerned by the lack of big-league help the Yankees have gotten from their farm system this season, Hal Steinbrenner called his lieutenants to a meeting in Tampa Tuesday to discuss the club's prospect development, according to sources. According to a source, the meeting, which included Hal and Hank Steinbrener, GM Brian Cashman and team president Randy Levine, was "a preliminary session and the beginning of a process in which they're evaluating the entire player development department and all that's been going on with their scouting, drafting and developing over the past seasons The Steinbrenners, the sources said, are mostly concerned with the failure of the farm system to deliver much help to the injury-ravaged Yanks this season. They are also worried about the system's ability to provide major-league ready players for the 2014 season, when the Yanks are both trying to get their payroll below $189 million to save on luxury tax and need replacements for departing players and insurance for aging stars.

Hal Steinbrenner calls Yankees high command, including Brian Cashman, to Tampa to discuss Bombers� barren farm - ( New Window )

In comment 14012044 Essex said:

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In comment 14012035 Bill2 said: Quote: With respect: The Yankees ( entire fo for we do not know accountability prior to October 2014) have not done well with SP trades or FA. Neither have many at the top end scramble had more overall success with this category. Especially in the post steroids era elongated careers. The likely answer and the original plan was to develop our own. Instead we got further faster than any fan or I suspect the Yankees did And Boston using the other method of loading up fa and trades have done well. Temporarily. So it is desirable to go get 1 to 2 SP sooner than planned ( no one planned grays performance or Montgomery getting injured). But...that requires someone to trade with them. How is the lack of good SP trades anyone on the Yankees fault? I tend to agree that absent a good trade I'd rather hold on to our best SP prospects. Hopefully with this explanation we now violently agree. Take care. I think our only real area of disagreement is how much faith we have in Cashman. Many on here act like he is a rockstar GM and I just don't think that's the case. We can go back and forth on that point all night with the many moves he has succeeded with and the many that he hasn't, which is a waste of everyone's time. But, I respect your opinion and just will move on with my own about Cashman. At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is hoisting 28 up in the air this October/November.

People are happy with moves he�s made that have ultimately made the team better. It�s an indisputable fact that he has. Nobody here�s saying he�s a �Rockstar� GM. You just have some sort of animus towards him that�s based on, what exactly? His inability to have the farm generate SP after SP? Guess what? That pretty much sums up EVERY GM in the league.

Also, if you�re going to say things like, �Find a GM who can develop SP.�, at least offer up an alternative. You bring literally nothing to the argument if you�re going to simply toss out a throw away line like that and then move on to continue your disdain fest.

So I ask, who�s the better alternative to Brian Cashman? Do you even have one? I mean you�re literally acting as if the Yankees have been winning in spite of Brian Cashman and, nothing could be further from the truth.

To "develop pitching?" Chien Ming Wang I seem to remember came out of nowhere and was highly productive in his 2/3 years before getting hurt. Ivan Nova....same thing. Neither of those guys were incredibly high on anybody's radar as far as what they wound up doing for us.

If youre referring to the vets like Kevin Brown, Randy Johnson, Jared Wright....I seem to remember those all being George directives.

Then there are giys like Jeff Weaver, Carl Pavano, AJ Burnett, Javy Vasquez and Sonny Gray. Gray, Vasquez were Cy Young candidates only a year or two prior to the Yanks acquiring them.

This whole narrative is even dumber now that I outlined it. Hughes? Injuries. Probably Joba was the only poorly handled pitcher from a plan stabd point.

are insane for not wanting Machado. He would automatically become the best all around hitter on the team. Also, it doesn't matter if it's another RHB if he has reverse splits.

Machado in 2018

.327 BA .403 OBP vs RHP
.277 BA .327 OBP vs LHP

However, Didi is the one who must go.

Didi, Gray, Adams, Florial, Tate, Austin, Wade , that's plenty for a guy who's leaving to come here anyway and more then another team could likely offer. Oriole's can afford to use Didi and Gray as rentals

Machado has explicitly said he wants to be a Yankee so why give anything to Baltimore in a trade when he would just sign here next year as a free agent?

In comment 14012378 dpinzow said:

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Machado has explicitly said he wants to be a Yankee so why give anything to Baltimore in a trade when he would just sign here next year as a free agent?

I definitely agree. No way I wanna give them a haul of guys let alone an Andujar, guy is basically my son.

In comment 14012380 DennyInDenville said:

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In comment 14012378 dpinzow said: Quote: Machado has explicitly said he wants to be a Yankee so why give anything to Baltimore in a trade when he would just sign here next year as a free agent? I definitely agree. No way I wanna give them a haul of guys let alone an Andujar, guy is basically my son.

I could see Andujar traded and Machado here next year, but I'd only trade Andujar for an ace

In comment 14012083 chopperhatch said:

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If youre referring to the vets like Kevin Brown, Randy Johnson, Jared Wright....I seem to remember those all being George directives. Then there are giys like Jeff Weaver, Carl Pavano, AJ Burnett, Javy Vasquez and Sonny Gray. Gray, Vasquez were Cy Young candidates only a year or two prior to the Yanks acquiring them. This whole narrative is even dumber now that I outlined it. Hughes?

My point has been about acquiring pitching and after listing these names, I am the one who is dumb about Cashman acquiring pitching talent? Got ya.

It will be a package of spare parts that have no other real use. The Yankees have no room for some prospects that would be top 20 or even top 10 in other organizations especially one as bad and baron as Baltimore. Adams, McKinney, Rodgers, Tate guys on that level aren't bringing back anything that will impact the MLB roster unless it's a rental. I don't think Frazier, Sheffield guys on that level will be traded for a rental.

If you ever wonder why people give you crap, you might consider this interaction:

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Let's get Manny DennyInDenville : 7/12/2018 10:03 pm : link : reply However, Didi is the one who must go. [bDidi, Gray, Adams, Florial, Tate, Austin, Wade , that's plenty for a guy who's leaving to come here anyway and more then another team could likely offer.[/b] Oriole's can afford to use Didi and Gray as rentals It makes no sense to trade for Machado dpinzow : 7/12/2018 11:02 pm : link : reply Machado has explicitly said he wants to be a Yankee so why give anything to Baltimore in a trade when he would just sign here next year as a free agent? RE: It makes no sense to trade for Machado DennyInDenville : 7/12/2018 11:03 pm : link : reply In comment 14012378 dpinzow said: Quote: Machado has explicitly said he wants to be a Yankee so why give anything to Baltimore in a trade when he would just sign here next year as a free agent? I definitely agree. No way I wanna give them a haul of guys let alone an Andujar, guy is basically my son.

It's hard to take you seriously when you propose sending 7 guys for a couple months of Machado, then immediately respond opposed to the idea of sending a "haul of guys" when it's suggested that's a bad idea.

It's like you're just jabbering a stream of consciousness - whatever ideas pop into your head in that moment.

I'm not trying to be mean, just trying to help you understand why sometimes people either ignore you or get after you a bit. Maybe it's better to not say anything when you don't really have a conviction about something.

wonder if he's starting to develop a better eye or more patience. He has 5 walks in the last 15 days, after only 10 walks the rest of the season. Is he learning to take a pitch outside the zone? If so, how much can his game improve? One of the things I've really liked about him is his aggressive swing - seems like he's swinging angry.

In comment 14012613 Dan in the Springs said:

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If you ever wonder why people give you crap, you might consider this interaction: Quote: Let's get Manny DennyInDenville : 7/12/2018 10:03 pm : link : reply However, Didi is the one who must go. [bDidi, Gray, Adams, Florial, Tate, Austin, Wade , that's plenty for a guy who's leaving to come here anyway and more then another team could likely offer.[/b] Oriole's can afford to use Didi and Gray as rentals It makes no sense to trade for Machado dpinzow : 7/12/2018 11:02 pm : link : reply Machado has explicitly said he wants to be a Yankee so why give anything to Baltimore in a trade when he would just sign here next year as a free agent? RE: It makes no sense to trade for Machado DennyInDenville : 7/12/2018 11:03 pm : link : reply In comment 14012378 dpinzow said: Quote: Machado has explicitly said he wants to be a Yankee so why give anything to Baltimore in a trade when he would just sign here next year as a free agent? I definitely agree. No way I wanna give them a haul of guys let alone an Andujar, guy is basically my son. It's hard to take you seriously when you propose sending 7 guys for a couple months of Machado, then immediately respond opposed to the idea of sending a "haul of guys" when it's suggested that's a bad idea. It's like you're just jabbering a stream of consciousness - whatever ideas pop into your head in that moment. I'm not trying to be mean, just trying to help you understand why sometimes people either ignore you or get after you a bit. Maybe it's better to not say anything when you don't really have a conviction about something.

Dupe

night on SNY sports nite Andy Martino or John Harper ( Can't remember which one) mentioned that Baltimore would like to trade him by the allstar break. We shall see.

are the serious contenders at this point.

Torres
Judge
Machado
Stanton
Bird
Sanchez
Didi
Hicks
Gardner

That's insane.

In comment 14012718 adamg said:

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Torres Judge Machado Stanton Bird Sanchez Didi Hicks Gardner That's insane.

Yep. Any one of those guys could carry a team to a win all by himself anytime. Eg Gardy with two HRs last night and three RBI's, Bird with three,four and three RBI's in his last three games.

I think they're dangerous with everyone back healthy and Andujar in there as well but Manny is an upgrade at the plate and 3B no question. Not only would he make getting out of the first inning even tougher on a pitcher, it would make the 2nd inning really tough as well with the bottom three no slouches either. There would be no breathing room for an opposing starter and put a ton of pressure on him practically every pitch.

Even Hicks has been playing like an All Star the last month or two. But Machado really would alter the top of the order in a way few people could.

However, I speak how I speak, and don't care if I sound stupid. It makes Denny Denny.

Now, I do hear what your saying.

Imo, they key to reading my posts (if you choose to) take them with a grain of salt, if you read something you really like, feel free to lmk and engage or give me a +1 to top off my dragon energy.

Happy Weekend Brother, have a great one.

but if you watched the game last night Kluber was working to get to him a few times almost like a pitcher's spot in the NL if everyone is healthy and the Yankees add Manny that will be impossible to pitch to most days. Even without Manny the regular lineup is terrific 1-9.

In comment 14012731 adamg said:

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Even Hicks has been playing like an All Star the last month or two. But Machado really would alter the top of the order in a way few people could.

No question about that and didn't mean to slight Manny's impact in any way. It makes the top of the lineup incredibly hard for a pitcher to get through and that effect would be felt down the rest of the it. Seeing the start of Yankee games would be must see TV.

It was just the first time in a while I saw our complete healthy lineup, and realized again how tough it is. Adding Manny makes its even tougher but if we don't get him, having Miggy in there it's still an imposing lineup. With how they're playing now it's easy to forget they're getting it done without two All Star guys in Torres and Sanchez.

and if they keep going that way he could play in a Triple A rehab game as early as this Sunday.

In comment 14012780 Dave in Hoboken said:

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and if they keep going that way he could play in a Triple A rehab game as early as this Sunday.

Not a big Kay guy but I was home by 3 today and have him on yes, to his credit it's been a really good listen/watch since there's no big Mike on tv

Long week. Goodness.

Glad el Gary is progressing well , Romine has been an admirable substitute all season.