NFT: Mets Minors 7/12/2018-Back to meh

Ernest Dove
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Mets minors info for ya

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P Anthony Kay on inn cap rest of season for St. Lucie Mets (expect no more than 6 inn outings)

P Cameron Planck prepping to make 2nd pro appearance early next week for GCL Mets

OF Ian Strom to be out at least through July for Lucie :(
5:28 AM - 12 Jul 2018

Juan Loyo continues to hit although almost entirely singles
Nixon Silva�s stats are absurd over last 19 innings - 9 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 17 K

when they won't see time in Queens until 30.

See Mr McNeil as an example.

In comment 14011553 spike said:

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when they won't see time in Queens until 30. See Mr McNeil as an example.

McNeil is an awful example. Until this year McNeil didn't deserve a sniff of Queens.

He's been injured so often coming into this season he'd played 25 games over A ball (18 in AAA and 7 in AA).

Sure he should be up this year b/c he's an pending minor league FA, but hard to be irate about the team holding him back all these years.

I don�t think people are clamoring for McNeil is a savior. It he is the nMe they refer to in the boiling over of frustration. Some here for years have complained the FOnever looks for the hidden gem or discarded trash - though ironically the rare times they have had led to success!! Why haven�t rule Vs been given a chance? Recent DFAs? Etc.

Conforto became an All Star purely by accident.
Nimmo, almost a half year into his breakout, still isn�t respected

It�s another lost season. What does playing Reyes do for the franchise? Maybe, just maybe, that 1% chance McNeil is for real. Maybe give him a chance to sink or swim. Maybe give him a chance to adjust to the majors. If he fails, what did they have to lose?

Perspective. How would you react ifZack Wheeler was the starting 3B tonight? While a kid in AAA isn�t given a chance? Starting Reyes at 3B is the same as putting a random player there who can�t hit or field and has no future with the franchise.

I agree with it. I wish they were a bit more aggressive in situations like this, especially when the alternative option is so useless/pointless. Tejada starting with Flores on the bench and now Reyes starting with McNeil in AAA are the two most recent examples that drive me nuts.

absurdy extends to this idea he's "only" a 2b. The team is awful and unwatchable. McNeil is going to be so bad at 3b it changes what exactly? How about the "entertainment" Sandy used to speak of?

thinks they deal Wheeler.

Nearly every move the Mets make goes against logic. Is Kaczmarski a big leaguer? Who knows? But Den Dekker is 31 next month #Mets

Any thoughts or insight from baseball guys on the Mets next GM? It�s looking more likely they will go outside the org for the pick.

Looks like Ricco and Ricciardi are not likely (and rightfully so since they were integral to the mess that was free agency plan this offseason, especially Ricciardi who oversees professional personnel and scouting). Ricco is just as tainted in my opinion.

In comment 14011643 Sammo85 said:

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Any thoughts or insight from baseball guys on the Mets next GM? It�s looking more likely they will go outside the org for the pick. Looks like Ricco and Ricciardi are not likely (and rightfully so since they were integral to the mess that was free agency plan this offseason, especially Ricciardi who oversees professional personnel and scouting). Ricco is just as tainted in my opinion.

Names I like-

Bloom, Matt Arnold, Picollo, Kantrovitz, McLeod,Randy Flores. Those are to name a few

should be up in the majors, if for no other reason than to make sure they want to add him to the 40 man to avoid losing him.

But my point was he's not the example I'd use of the Mets slow-playing a promotion. He's 26 and this is the first real glimpse he's had of sustained health and success.

There was a better case for being pissed about Dom Smith withering away in LV so Adrian Gonzalez could play 1B, for example.

Or Reyes playing over anyone.

In comment 14011658 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 14011643 Sammo85 said: Quote: Any thoughts or insight from baseball guys on the Mets next GM? It�s looking more likely they will go outside the org for the pick. Looks like Ricco and Ricciardi are not likely (and rightfully so since they were integral to the mess that was free agency plan this offseason, especially Ricciardi who oversees professional personnel and scouting). Ricco is just as tainted in my opinion. Names I like- Bloom, Matt Arnold, Picollo, Kantrovitz, McLeod,Randy Flores. Those are to name a few

I like several of those too. We need a strong vision based thinker and organizational mind with some scouting and development philosophies. I suspect the Wilpons will want someone who likes Omar and has his blessing too but also someone who knows how to do more with less.

or even just as a direct report to the GM is OK with me. Wilpon might want his own guy and Omar is a world class scout, so that's a compromise I'm happy to make if we can get one of Dan's names or someone similar like that who brings in a fresh look and has a vision to build a winner.

In comment 14011632 DanMetroMan said:

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absurdy extends to this idea he's "only" a 2b. The team is awful and unwatchable. McNeil is going to be so bad at 3b it changes what exactly? How about the "entertainment" Sandy used to speak of?

For 33 years Reyes was �just a SS�. Not sure why they let the �he�s only a 2B� answer fly either. FYI, not that it matters. But McNeil has played just as many games in HIS career at 3B as 2B...

In comment 14011642 DanMetroMan said:

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Nearly every move the Mets make goes against logic. Is Kaczmarski a big leaguer? Who knows? But Den Dekker is 31 next month #Mets

With Kaczmarski I think the issue was he wasn�t getting AB�s with Nimmo and Conforto having 2 spots, and Bautista hanging around because he is a vet. Personally I would move Bautista to 3B so that Kaczmarski could play everyday in OF. It can�t be worse than Jose Reyes at 3B. Or play Wilmer at 3B so Dominic Smith is not rotating between 1B and LF

In comment 14011692 Mike in NY said:

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In comment 14011642 DanMetroMan said: Quote: Nearly every move the Mets make goes against logic. Is Kaczmarski a big leaguer? Who knows? But Den Dekker is 31 next month #Mets With Kaczmarski I think the issue was he wasn�t getting AB�s with Nimmo and Conforto having 2 spots, and Bautista hanging around because he is a vet. Personally I would move Bautista to 3B so that Kaczmarski could play everyday in OF. It can�t be worse than Jose Reyes at 3B. Or play Wilmer at 3B so Dominic Smith is not rotating between 1B and LF

Kaczmarski is 27 in December, his upside is extra OF. The same AB's Den Dekker gets could go to him. If he can't succeed in that kind of role then he doesn't have a career. 336 minor league games, a normal manager can find him ab's. Move Bautista around if need be. If this season has any value it should be evaluation of guys like this.

a) his relationship with the Wilpons undercuts any actual organization chain of command - so his presence will not appeal to any GM candidate and likely scare off the good ones.

b) his scouting value is very questionable - just look at his top draft picks over his last run here. Half of them never even got past AA. Literally. Also, a huge percentage of being a scout is being on the road in every corner of the world, something he hasn't done in 2 decades.

There's a reason this franchise has been the only one to employ him in professional baseball over the last 15-20 years. I'd rather hire a fresh mind who's been around an actual winning organization for a change.

In comment 14011705 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 14011692 Mike in NY said: Quote: In comment 14011642 DanMetroMan said: Quote: Nearly every move the Mets make goes against logic. Is Kaczmarski a big leaguer? Who knows? But Den Dekker is 31 next month #Mets With Kaczmarski I think the issue was he wasn�t getting AB�s with Nimmo and Conforto having 2 spots, and Bautista hanging around because he is a vet. Personally I would move Bautista to 3B so that Kaczmarski could play everyday in OF. It can�t be worse than Jose Reyes at 3B. Or play Wilmer at 3B so Dominic Smith is not rotating between 1B and LF Kaczmarski is 27 in December, his upside is extra OF. The same AB's Den Dekker gets could go to him. If he can't succeed in that kind of role then he doesn't have a career. 336 minor league games, a normal manager can find him ab's. Move Bautista around if need be. If this season has any value it should be evaluation of guys like this.

I wouldn�t be surprised if management is leaning on the coaching staff to put a particular lineup on the field because they feel vets give best chance of winning today rather than evaluating what you have for the future.

is it seems they never find any reclamation projects (like Dickey or Rick Reed) or older minor leaguers who come up and give you 200 good ABs.

I follow the SF Giants in addition to the Mets and the Giants always seem to have some guys at AAA who come up and play well (like Alen Hanson and Gorkys Hernandez this year). Whereas Mets have guys like Drew Gagnon and Chris Beck.

Giants also have a lot of guys, like Reyes Moronta, who don't do that much in the minors but then turn into good ML players. In contrast, Mets seem to have tons of prospects who put up great numbers in the minors but then do nothing at the ML level.

Not really sure why this is. Any thoughts?

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Mets minor-league All-Star Tim Tebow is causing a stir and getting better - ( New Window )

says teams have called about Bautista, no-brainer for a top 30-40 prospect

Arizona lost Shelby Miller, might be a fit for Wheeler, Varsho? #Mets

In comment 14011843 DanMetroMan said:

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Arizona lost Shelby Miller, might be a fit for Wheeler, Varsho? #Mets

Varsho is currently on the DL, but he is someone I liked in the 2017 Draft

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says teams have called about Bautista, no-brainer for a top 30-40 prospect

Agree. No brainer.

Bautista and Cabrera should both be no-brainers, Familia and Fraizer probably, Bruce a pipe dream, and I'd try and unload Swarzak, Mesoraco and Blevins.

Wheeler's name keeps popping up, and I'm lukewarm about trading him b/c I think as a #3 starter he's more valuable to the Mets than some team's 30-40th ranked prospect or Brandon Drury.

In comment 14011869 Mike in NY said:

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In comment 14011843 DanMetroMan said: Quote: Arizona lost Shelby Miller, might be a fit for Wheeler, Varsho? #Mets Varsho is currently on the DL, but he is someone I liked in the 2017 Draft

Yup and probably a lost 2018 for him the rest of the way but who cares at this point? He could be the starting C second half next year.

double, 20 game hit streak.

comparison for Mauricio?

In comment 14011925 CMicks3110 said:

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comparison for Mauricio?

Not trying to be funny here but.. Prime Asdrubel Cabrera. But he's 17, sky is the limit... 4ish years from now.