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Chris in Philly : 7/12/2018 10:54 am
In today's unsurprising news, noted douche John Schnatter has resigned from his company, the Louisville Board of Trustees, and who knows, perhaps even his homeowners association.

From Deadspin: "In June’s conference call, Papa was asked “how he would distance himself from racist groups online.” (Normal question to ask a pizza man.) Papa replied by complaining that “Colonel Sanders called blacks n——-s”—no one is quite sure where he got this from—and KFC never got in trouble. He also noted, for some reason, that where he grew up people used to kill black people by dragging them behind trucks. (Normal answer from the pizza man.)"

I know he inexplicably has fans here, so I look forward to their impassioned defense.
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You never heard of him?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/12/2018 2:17 pm : link
There's at least 55 Papa John's commercials during EVERY NFL game. And that's a conservative estimate.
RE: RE: I actually never heard of him before this thread  
Bill L : 7/12/2018 2:17 pm : link
In comment 14011880 Chris in Philly said:
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but, then again, I've never had his pizza either.

But, as an exchange between an interviewer and ostensibly famous person, it seems like a jackass question with an asshole response.


But, just knowing he's a CEO, I concur with the comment about how could someone be so successful while being so stupid.



How can you watch football and not know who this guy is?
I do and I don't. Actually, I think tbh, I only watch the Giants and haven't seen this guy play. But, don't make me google him, what's the football connection?
RE: You never heard of him?  
Bill L : 7/12/2018 2:18 pm : link
In comment 14011883 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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There's at least 55 Papa John's commercials during EVERY NFL game. And that's a conservative estimate.
I didn't mean to imply that I never heard of Papa John's.
race baiting fun....  
AnnapolisMike : 7/12/2018 2:20 pm : link
More race baiting over the use of the N-word which is being taken out of context. A shitty pizza guys quotes what a shitty chicken guy says in a training meeting and all hell breaks loose. People are going to twist everything possible that someone says or does that could possible be construed as being racist and try and ruin them. I'm not defending this guy as by many accounts he is an ass. But when use of a word is more important than the context it was used in..we have a problem.
never  
spike : 7/12/2018 2:21 pm : link
had papa john s pizzas in my life
RE: RE: You never heard of him?  
Chris in Philly : 7/12/2018 2:22 pm : link
In comment 14011886 Bill L said:
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There's at least 55 Papa John's commercials during EVERY NFL game. And that's a conservative estimate.

I didn't mean to imply that I never heard of Papa John's.


But he's literally in every PJ commercial (lately with Peyton and others). And he was slobbering all over Peyton when the Broncos won. I am just surprised you never heard of him....
RE: RE: RE: I actually never heard of him before this thread  
njm : 7/12/2018 2:22 pm : link
In comment 14011884 Bill L said:
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but, then again, I've never had his pizza either.

But, as an exchange between an interviewer and ostensibly famous person, it seems like a jackass question with an asshole response.


But, just knowing he's a CEO, I concur with the comment about how could someone be so successful while being so stupid.



How can you watch football and not know who this guy is?

I do and I don't. Actually, I think tbh, I only watch the Giants and haven't seen this guy play. But, don't make me google him, what's the football connection?


The funny thing is that I think .001% of people know his actual name. Everybody refers to him as Papa John.
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Bill L : 7/12/2018 2:23 pm : link
In comment 14011896 Chris in Philly said:
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There's at least 55 Papa John's commercials during EVERY NFL game. And that's a conservative estimate.

I didn't mean to imply that I never heard of Papa John's.



But he's literally in every PJ commercial (lately with Peyton and others). And he was slobbering all over Peyton when the Broncos won. I am just surprised you never heard of him....
Honestly never had. I glaze over most commercials but I suppose I'm just generally unaware.
RE: race baiting fun....  
njm : 7/12/2018 2:24 pm : link
In comment 14011891 AnnapolisMike said:
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But when use of a word is more important than the context it was used in..we have a problem.


Or an opportunity.
RE: RE: He said a naughty word  
old man : 7/12/2018 2:31 pm : link
In comment 14011646 Anando said:
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stone him



really?


Uses a pejorative word he BELIEVES someone else used, and gets in trouble? Seems a little over the top by the Feelings Police. Wasn't he resigning everything anyway?
This was more about the share holders & other directors  
Motley Two : 7/12/2018 2:39 pm : link
of the company getting him out. Which one could easily suspect they've been trying to do for a while. Like mentioned above about franchisees being pissed with the dude. Dude is a clown, craves the spotlight & doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut.

He's the P.Diddy of pizza. All up in the kitchen, all up it the commercials, all up on the celebrity endorser.
Something wrong with the  
section125 : 7/12/2018 2:41 pm : link
guy anyway as NFL dumped Papa Johns as the "official" pizza of the NFL.

Until everyone stops using the slur and stops condoning it's use or defending use of it, the word will never go away.

"I'm/He's just repeating what somebody else said"  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/12/2018 2:41 pm : link
seems to really lower the standard of good judgement and personal behavior, especially for the CEO of a major company in a business setting. It certainly seems like making an excuse for the guy IMO.
I looked for a thread on this  
UESBLUE : 7/12/2018 2:52 pm : link
since yesterday and assumed it was too hot a topic. This being BBI, someone will surely defend him...
RE: You never heard of him?  
Mr. Bungle : 7/12/2018 2:57 pm : link
In comment 14011883 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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And that's a conservative estimate.

I see what you did there.
Papa John's pizza was the best of the crappy chains  
NYG27 : 7/12/2018 3:19 pm : link
Luckily we now live in an area where there are decent NY style pizza locations and several of those Build Your Own pizza locations like MOD Pizza.

Although 10 years ago, for Pizza offerings, we just had Papa John's, Domino's, Pizza Hut and Little Caesar.

From those limited crappy chains, we liked Papa John's the best. Although with better pizza options, luckily we haven't had it for over several years now.
RE: I looked for a thread on this  
AnnapolisMike : 7/12/2018 3:23 pm : link
In comment 14011930 UESBLUE said:
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since yesterday and assumed it was too hot a topic. This being BBI, someone will surely defend him...


And perhaps they would be right too. Saying the N-word does not make you a racist....context does. But we are too wound up in short soundbites to take a slightly deeper look. Unable to think for ourselves and understand the points of view that others bring to the table.
He's been having a hard time hiding his real self  
Rflairr : 7/12/2018 3:25 pm : link
for a while now
I don't get it  
Bill in Del : 7/12/2018 3:33 pm : link
Blacks use the N word all the time, a white guy uses it once and he's crucified.




- Michael Richards
RE: RE: I looked for a thread on this  
TheOtherManning : 7/12/2018 3:55 pm : link
In comment 14011954 AnnapolisMike said:
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since yesterday and assumed it was too hot a topic. This being BBI, someone will surely defend him...



And perhaps they would be right too. Saying the N-word does not make you a racist....context does. But we are too wound up in short soundbites to take a slightly deeper look. Unable to think for ourselves and understand the points of view that others bring to the table.


Don't make it sound like he was just saying the n-word in some sort of detached academic sense. He was in a corporate meeting about media relations training, and his response to a pertinent question about how to distance himself/the company from racial animus online was to essentially say - Hey, Colonel Sanders called people n*****s and no one gives KFC any backlash. What's the problem?

Then he doubled down on the stupidity and related an anecdote about how black people used to get lynched in his hometown.

So what exactly is the point of view being displayed here? What context are we missing?
LOL...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/12/2018 3:56 pm : link
Huh??
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Very interesting and amazing numbers for a pizza that many consider "terrible"


So by this logic, McDonald's is great food and Wal Mart is the best place to buy everything??

Popularity doesn't necessarily make something good.
RE: LOL...  
section125 : 7/12/2018 4:10 pm : link
In comment 14011979 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Huh??


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Very interesting and amazing numbers for a pizza that many consider "terrible"



So by this logic, McDonald's is great food and Wal Mart is the best place to buy everything??

Popularity doesn't necessarily make something good.


Well if you are from any place not named New York or Chicago or within their suburban areas, you probably think Pizza Hut or Papa Johns is good pizza.
RE: papa john's,  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 7/12/2018 4:29 pm : link
In comment 14011834 Les in TO said:
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the official sponsor of the 2019 KKK convention.

The pizza chain endorsed by David Duke.
RE: It was said that LBJ supported civil rights in the 1960s  
DonQuixote : 7/12/2018 4:35 pm : link
In comment 14011736 lawguy9801 said:
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so that, according to a quote attributed to him, "the n****rs would vote Democratic for 200 years."

If I repeat that quote, am I racist?


Don't get cute. You can quote something racist, and if you support it, that's bad, but if you repudiate it, that's good.
I wonder if some of you  
UESBLUE : 7/12/2018 4:39 pm : link
who are defending Papa John's right to use the N word would continue to do so in our Giants locker room...?
funny thing is  
ron mexico : 7/12/2018 4:43 pm : link
all this came out on a conference call with a PR firm hired to give him media training to prevent future public relations fumbles.
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chopperhatch : 7/12/2018 4:53 pm : link
In comment 14011991 section125 said:
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Huh??


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Very interesting and amazing numbers for a pizza that many consider "terrible"



So by this logic, McDonald's is great food and Wal Mart is the best place to buy everything??

Popularity doesn't necessarily make something good.



Well if you are from any place not named New York or Chicago or within their suburban areas, you probably think Pizza Hut or Papa Johns is good pizza.


Eff you ass cheese! Im orig from suburban Jersey and we have epcot pizza!
This guy? NO WAY  
montanagiant : 7/12/2018 5:22 pm : link
pjcas  
XBRONX : 7/12/2018 5:29 pm : link
Funny talking about balls from an outright pussy like yourself.
I guess I'm lucky that I'll never have to worry  
Metnut : 7/12/2018 5:30 pm : link
about damage to my professional career from something like this because it's incredibly easy not to use offensive racial slurs. I don't even use them outside of the office!
RE: pjcas  
pjcas18 : 7/12/2018 5:37 pm : link
In comment 14012047 XBRONX said:
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Funny talking about balls from an outright pussy like yourself.


Another keyboard tough guy with the intelligence of a salad bar.

If I want to say something at least I'm man enough to say it, I'm not passive aggressive about it like you are.

I'm not going to engage in any further conversation with you on here, just not worth my time.
RE: LOL...  
Hsilwek92 : 7/12/2018 5:38 pm : link
In comment 14011979 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Huh??


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Very interesting and amazing numbers for a pizza that many consider "terrible"



So by this logic, McDonald's is great food and Wal Mart is the best place to buy everything??

Popularity doesn't necessarily make something good.


Exactly. Look at Justin Beiber and Drake.
They may as well put the stars and bars on the box and be done with it  
FStubbs : 7/12/2018 6:02 pm : link
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Well, I lost my bet  
jcn56 : 7/12/2018 6:44 pm : link
When he said Papa John's revenues were shitty because of the NFL, I said 'I bet that's the stupidest fucking thing this guy could think of'.

Oh well. Not sure why he had to sully the good name of Harlan Sanders while he was at it.
RE: RE: RE: LOL...  
section125 : 7/12/2018 7:38 pm : link
In comment 14012024 chopperhatch said:
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Huh??


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Very interesting and amazing numbers for a pizza that many consider "terrible"



So by this logic, McDonald's is great food and Wal Mart is the best place to buy everything??

Popularity doesn't necessarily make something good.



Well if you are from any place not named New York or Chicago or within their suburban areas, you probably think Pizza Hut or Papa Johns is good pizza.



Eff you ass cheese! Im orig from suburban Jersey and we have epcot pizza!


WTF does that mean? Epcot Pizza?

"You" was the nebulus you, not you FMiC. I standby my statement - if you (meaning peoples) are not from the New York or Chicago areas, you (meaning those people not from those areas) think franchise pizza places are good. Since most of us on BBI are from the NYC area we don't understand why people love places like Pizza Hut, Papa Johns, Little Caesars or Dominos....
Right there is another reason why you don't let the CEO  
short lease : 7/12/2018 7:41 pm : link

give interviews/earning calls, etc ... while they are drunk.



Seriously - Is he crazy?! Even if you are a racist, or a Democrat, or a Republican, or homophobic, or pro-life, or pro-choice, or whatever - you never reveal anything that could alienate the customer.

Why even use those words? .... and what kind of answer was that to the question presented?

Sometimes I wonder - if you are a workaholic and catch a few lucky breaks .... do you need any brains at all (besides the minimum functioning average IQ) to succeed in business?

I am not saying all successful people are morons without ethics (far from it) ... but, sometimes you wonder about some folks and how they achieved all that they have being blatantly stupid .... or lacking common sense maybe a better description?
RE: Bet his sales  
short lease : 7/12/2018 7:45 pm : link
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go up in certain regions


And go down in others ... ?
I'm assuming he meant epic pizza  
Sonic Youth : 7/12/2018 8:02 pm : link
but suburban NJ is pretty much included in the "New York" part of the original post, so...
RE: I'm assuming he meant epic pizza  
section125 : 7/12/2018 8:12 pm : link
In comment 14012152 Sonic Youth said:
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but suburban NJ is pretty much included in the "New York" part of the original post, so...


Exactly. I pretty much figured he meant epic, but he needs balls busted for that and for a Jersey guy not knowing that NJ is suburban NYC and that is where I'm from too.
RE: Right there is another reason why you don't let the CEO  
Bill L : 7/12/2018 9:57 pm : link
In comment 14012130 short lease said:
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give interviews/earning calls, etc ... while they are drunk.



Seriously - Is he crazy?! Even if you are a racist, or a Democrat, or a Republican, or homophobic, or pro-life, or pro-choice, or whatever - you never reveal anything that could alienate the customer.

Why even use those words? .... and what kind of answer was that to the question presented?

Sometimes I wonder - if you are a workaholic and catch a few lucky breaks .... do you need any brains at all (besides the minimum functioning average IQ) to succeed in business?

I am not saying all successful people are morons without ethics (far from it) ... but, sometimes you wonder about some folks and how they achieved all that they have being blatantly stupid .... or lacking common sense maybe a better description?
i don’t know...from the other side the Penzy’s guy plays it up and has turned alienation into a real marketing ploy. It’s fascinating to watch and I would bet that he’s being very successful.
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Moondawg : 7/12/2018 10:55 pm : link
RE: RE: I'm assuming he meant epic pizza  
chopperhatch : 7/12/2018 10:59 pm : link
In comment 14012157 section125 said:
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but suburban NJ is pretty much included in the "New York" part of the original post, so...



Exactly. I pretty much figured he meant epic, but he needs balls busted for that and for a Jersey guy not knowing that NJ is suburban NYC and that is where I'm from too.


Jeeeeeeezus. I was honestly kidding.

Holy shit this place needs a fucking lithium.
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chopperhatch : 7/12/2018 11:02 pm : link
In comment 14012375 chopperhatch said:
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but suburban NJ is pretty much included in the "New York" part of the original post, so...



Exactly. I pretty much figured he meant epic, but he needs balls busted for that and for a Jersey guy not knowing that NJ is suburban NYC and that is where I'm from too.



Jeeeeeeezus. I was honestly kidding.

Holy shit this place needs a fucking lithium.


And yes, I swapped out epic for epcot to try and be cute. Guess that was a fail. A NEBULOUS attempt at humor.
Dead spin is a complete joke  
Aqua Giants : 7/13/2018 12:00 am : link
PS: New York City pizza is a tad overrated
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Hsilwek92 : 7/13/2018 12:14 am : link
In comment 14012374 Moondawg said:
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Fake news.

Not the official Pap John’s smoke swastika.
Fuck him  
Optimus-NY : 7/13/2018 5:36 am : link
Besides, people outside of NY have no business making pizza.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I'm assuming he meant epic pizza  
section125 : 7/13/2018 7:09 am : link
In comment 14012379 chopperhatch said:
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but suburban NJ is pretty much included in the "New York" part of the original post, so...



Exactly. I pretty much figured he meant epic, but he needs balls busted for that and for a Jersey guy not knowing that NJ is suburban NYC and that is where I'm from too.



Jeeeeeeezus. I was honestly kidding.

Holy shit this place needs a fucking lithium.



And yes, I swapped out epic for epcot to try and be cute. Guess that was a fail. A NEBULOUS attempt at humor.


Sounds like a bunch of epcot humour failures....
So long as Olive Garden CEO  
jpkmets : 7/13/2018 7:16 am : link
keeps his mouth shut, BBI will continue peacefully.
the thing that is a baffling to me  
giantfan2000 : 7/13/2018 8:04 am : link
in downtown Manhattan where I live
there are papa johns and dominos and both seem to be thriving

why in the world would you choose papa johns or dominos in downtown Manhattan where there a ton of decent local NY pizza joints that are a million times better ?

RE: Dead spin is a complete joke  
Chris in Philly : 7/13/2018 8:15 am : link
In comment 14012389 Aqua Giants said:
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PS: New York City pizza is a tad overrated


Poor effort. Grade: D
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