NFT: Knicks Chat 7/12: Summer League and the new Front Office

it is why he was out, he did not have a new injury

KP, Frank, Knox and (hopefully) Mitchell Robinson, plus another lottery pick next year. They have every right to get aggressive in free agency.

The key is not to overpay the second tier guys if KD, Butler and Irving say no - that's the critical error they've made over and over again. KD doesn't want our money? OK, here's $72 million to Noah, $48 million to Lee, $28 million to Lance, etc. Can't be anymore of that.

Frank and a first is the difference between upgrading to Butler from Hardaway or not, you pull the trigger.

I love Frank, I'm all about keeping our picks, but Butler is a top 20 or so player in the league.

In comment 14012777 Jon in NYC said:

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Frank and a first is the difference between upgrading to Butler from Hardaway or not, you pull the trigger. I love Frank, I'm all about keeping our picks, but Butler is a top 20 or so player in the league.

Yeah but I think your logic is a bit flawed. Either he wants to sign with us after this season and will do so or he doesn't and we end up trading assets for a rental. I don't see how playing a season with very little talent around him here helps us sign him. IMO we have to keep every asset we have to increase the chances that he wants to be here next summer.

In comment 14012782 NoGainDayne said:

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In comment 14012777 Jon in NYC said: Quote: Frank and a first is the difference between upgrading to Butler from Hardaway or not, you pull the trigger. I love Frank, I'm all about keeping our picks, but Butler is a top 20 or so player in the league. Yeah but I think your logic is a bit flawed. Either he wants to sign with us after this season and will do so or he doesn't and we end up trading assets for a rental. I don't see how playing a season with very little talent around him here helps us sign him. IMO we have to keep every asset we have to increase the chances that he wants to be here next summer.

The issue is we can't still sign up with Hardaway still on the books. So the alternative would be not getting Butler.

there is plenty of evidence this year and in years past that if you are willing to give up first round picks you can absolutely get rid of salary so the question becomes why would we give up someone like Frank that could help us attract a player next summer when we could keep him and give up a future pick that is more of a direct trade off when we know someone is coming for a fact?

Especially when not having Butler not only let's us keep Frank but assuredly gets us a higher pick in 2019 which again adds to our asset list in attracting top players.

Because it also isn't just Butler. IMO the one proven method of rebuilding is compiling assets and maintaining flexibility. Getting Butler when he can absolutely still take off and potentially losing our 2019 pick to boot isn't really compiling assets...

Robinson had 14 points on 7-13 shooting, 12 rebounds, 5 blocks. Good, not great, except that he did all of that in 19 minutes! 5 blocks and 12 rebounds in 19 minutes is insane.

Robinson was leading the league in PER. I don't think he fell of the top today. And how different does it feel to know we got 2 guys in the draft instead of one or none?