AAA Crismatt
AA TBD
A+ TBD
Columbia TBD
BK TBD
Kingsport Taveras
GCL TBD
DSL1
DSL2
- Not Met related by 2018 pick Joey Bart has started his career with 6 homers over his first 13 games played wow
AAA
Kaczmarski 1-4 2 k's
Guillorme 0-4, K
Alonso 2-4, HR, 2b, 2 k's
McNeil 1-4, K
Smith 1.2 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 2 k's
AA
Nido 1-4, 2b, 2 k's
Tebow 1-4, K
Blackham 1 perfect 2 k's
St. Lucie
GImenez 0-3, 2 k's
Sanchez 1-2
Peterson 5.1 innings 11 hits 5 runs 1 walk 4 k's (He's been awful so far in A+ (27.1 innings 35 hits 13 walks 14 k's 5.93 era)
Columbia
Tiberi 2-4, 2b, K
Winaker 0-4
Manea 0-4, K
Brodey 0-3
Dibrell 6 innings 5 hits 1 er 0 walks 6 k's (Excellent start, 0 walks vs. 6 k's for a guy who has had trouble throwing strikes... nice)
BK
Sharp 3-5, K
Rasquin 3-5, 2 2b
Vilera 7 innings 3 hits 0 runs 1 walk 9 k's
Kingsport
Newton 2-4, HR, BB, 2 k's
Santana 0-3, BB
Vientos 1-5, K
Kelenic 2-3, HR, BB, K (Beast)
Hernandez 0-3, BB, K (He stinks)
Beracierta 1-4, 2b, K
GCL
Mauricio 1-4, 2b (20 game hitting streak)
Consuegra 1-3, BB, K
DSL
Dominguez 5.2 innings 6 hits 2 runs 1 walk 4 k's
Hernandez 0-4, K
Regnault 3-3, 2b, BB
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Kaczmarski played CF after the Mets demoted him for a “true” CF
Less interesting that Kelly and Den Dekker continue to be unable to hit ML
pitching no matter what ML team’s uniform they wear...
Kaczmarski played CF after the Mets demoted him for a “true” CF
Less interesting that Kelly and Den Dekker continue to be unable to hit ML
pitching no matter what ML team’s uniform they wear...
Both decisions are absurd. McNeil and Kaczmarski should be up. I'm not a massive Kaczmarski guy but c'mon.
How about Wilmer Flores and Jeurys Familia for Nolan Jones? Jones has serious power as a 3B prospect and if he panned out, he'd fill a huge need for the team.
He's not a TOR, but his only full season he had a 3.55 FIP and now that he's healthy he's right around there again.
He's more valuable than his stats indicate.
and he's got another year until FA.
Some team's top 30 prospect or would this be another middle reliever?
If it's a reliever I'd rather keep Wheeler.
We should get a legit piece or two back for Wheeler. He might be the best pitcher dealt at this deadline.
that's my thoughts too, otherwise I'd just keep him for 2019 maybe look to deal him at the deadline then if not in contention due to impending FA.
If they wait until next year they will get much less assuming he stays healthy which isn't guaranteed.
If they wait until next year they will get much less assuming he stays healthy which isn't guaranteed.
I’m not interested in a 50-100 guy.
I think that we have a major opportunity for a rebuild if we can sign Machado.
I think we need to go all in on him, and if we can't sign him then we can go into firesale mode.
We're dropping Cabrera ($8 m), Familia ($8 mil), Mesoraco (Harvey) ($8 mil), Reyes ($2 m), Ramos ($8 mil), Wright ($15 m - shocked if he doesnt retire); possibly Flores ($5 mil), and we will lose salaries of Swarzak, Frazier, Vargas, Lagares next year, and Cespedes the following year. We should have a ton of flexibility to sign Wheeler, deGrom and Machado and build around them.
Arbitration raises shouldn't be outrageous given the inconsistent performances of Conforto, d'Arnaud, Matz, Plawecki
I think that we have a major opportunity for a rebuild if we can sign Machado.
I think we need to go all in on him, and if we can't sign him then we can go into firesale mode.
We're dropping Cabrera ($8 m), Familia ($8 mil), Mesoraco (Harvey) ($8 mil), Reyes ($2 m), Ramos ($8 mil), Wright ($15 m - shocked if he doesnt retire); possibly Flores ($5 mil), and we will lose salaries of Swarzak, Frazier, Vargas, Lagares next year, and Cespedes the following year. We should have a ton of flexibility to sign Wheeler, deGrom and Machado and build around them.
Arbitration raises shouldn't be outrageous given the inconsistent performances of Conforto, d'Arnaud, Matz, Plawecki
We can. I don’t really understand the logic of wanting to upgrade all three units as opposed to just two. Rotation is basically set for next year. We aren’t doing a complete 3-4 year rebuild so fans just need to except it and if we are doing just a “re-tool”... we are going to need starting pitching.
Wheeler has always been highly regarded but never remained healthy enough to deliver, now that he's healthy do you really want to bank on the fact he'll remain healthy and/or a high performer?
It wasn't that long ago he was demoted to AAA.
I wouldn't give him away, but if the Mets get what they want for him and trade him and don't think twice about it. As opposed to a long-term extension.
The only way you really lose a trade like that badly is if Wheeler becomes a true ace - which is a remote outcome. You could convince me things click enough that he can enjoy a healthy 3-5 year run like AJ Burnett post NYY (a lot of their career numbers are very similar and both dealt with arm issues). In his 4 years with Pitt he was worth 11 WAR, so that sets the bar with a prospect reasonably high. It's got to be someone you think can be an above average regular. And trading him now would forego the injury risk over that period of time which is significant for any pitcher, let alone one who has had issues like Wheeler.
Dom Smith
McNeill
Rosario
Machado
Bruce
Conforto
Cespedes
JdG
Synder
Matz
Wheeler
Vargas
Effectively nothing in the bullpen
It’s not a terrible team, but it doesnt scream “contender” to me.
I’m not a Mets fan, but I think they’d be wise to cash one or two chips strategically and line up resources for a 2020 push coinciding with the arrivals of Kelenic and Gimenez.
The haul that a deGrom (or Noah) trade would bring could have the 2020 core looking beastly even before any free agent spending is factored.
Just for shits:
(Catcher)
Dom Smith
Gimenez/McNeill
Rosario/Gimenez
Andujar
Clint Frazier
Kelenic
(Right Fielder)
Thor
Justus Sheffield
Jonathan Loaisiga
Matz
Wheeler
That team right there probably isn’t winning, but that’s probably a sub-$75m payroll, and it doesn’t factor in any minors graduation beyond Kelenic/Gimenez/McNeill. Sprinkle in $75-100m of free agent spending on top of that and you have a big time contender IMO.
Think about this
Dom Smith
McNeill
Rosario
Machado
Bruce
Conforto
Cespedes
JdG
Synder
Matz
Wheeler
Vargas
Effectively nothing in the bullpen
It’s not a terrible team, but it doesnt scream “contender” to me.
I’m not a Mets fan, but I think they’d be wise to cash one or two chips strategically and line up resources for a 2020 push coinciding with the arrivals of Kelenic and Gimenez.
The haul that a deGrom (or Noah) trade would bring could have the 2020 core looking beastly even before any free agent spending is factored.
Just for shits:
(Catcher)
Dom Smith
Gimenez/McNeill
Rosario/Gimenez
Andujar
Clint Frazier
Kelenic
(Right Fielder)
Thor
Justus Sheffield
Jonathan Loaisiga
Matz
Wheeler
That team right there probably isn’t winning, but that’s probably a sub-$75m payroll, and it doesn’t factor in any minors graduation beyond Kelenic/Gimenez/McNeill. Sprinkle in $75-100m of free agent spending on top of that and you have a big time contender IMO.
Think about this
So you left off our best hitter? Where’s Nimmo? Sounds like Cespedes is going to shift to 1B and I’m not opposed to Alonso seasoning himself in AAA for another year of it allows Cespedes to stay on the field. You can’t count on Cespedes anymore but you would have Alonso in reserve if he got injured again and Machado replaces him as the stable bat in the middle of the lineup that makes everything tick. A Nimmo, Machado, Conforto, Cespedes, Bruce, Rosario, McNeil, Plawecki/TDA is certainly a lineup I could live with if we keep the SP in tact. Obviously, we would need to address the bullpen as well. You can’t just sign Machado and call it an offseason.
Agreed.
(Of course, that operation doesn’t need to include trading deGrom or trading with the Yanks. It was merely an example given my knowledge of the Yanks system)
Well we don’t know if Bruce can make it back healthy or not yet but we do know Cespedes’s issue is chronic. Moving Cespedes to 1B might be the only way to salvage some of his contract over the next year or two. I still like the idea of swapping Bruce for Shaw if possible.
DeGrom
Syndergaard
Wheeler
Matz
Oswalt/Vargas
Nimmo
Machado
Conforto
Cespedes
McNeil
Rosario
PlaweckiTDA
Lagares (of FA CF)
Kimbrell
McGee(traded for Bruce)
Gsellman
Lugo
Swarzak
Peterson
Bashlor/D. Smith
Is a team I am very excited about heading into 2019 and is basically accomplished by signing two guys and clearing a lot of dead weight.
You should still bring back a few interesting prospects which would help push the system back firmly to “middle of the pack” heading into 2019 and use all the freed up money to make a splash or two.
I hope not. There’s actually like 4-5 quality closers on the market this offseason. We need one of them.
Philly is also exploring trading for Britton as well as Machado which will force them to give up several prospects including Sixto. I would love to see them give up all that and then lose Machado in free agency lol.
Hadn’t checked his numbers recently but was really just throwing some stuff out there.
Philly is also exploring trading for Britton as well as Machado which will force them to give up several prospects including Sixto. I would love to see them give up all that and then lose Machado in free agency lol.
The AAV wouldn’t be a problem for the Mets either. The question would be if the new front office would have a change in philosophy on giving out “length”. Sandy’s on record saying he does not believe in long term deals unless it’s a unique circumstance(face of the franchise type) but maybe a new GM thinks differently? I also think the Mets are pretty much locked into Nimmo, Rosario, and Conforto as far as the lineup. I think I’m all in on McNeil being a 4th piece at this point. You’re probably not going to do better than Plawecki at C so that’s 5 spots. Cespedes/Alonso is likely your 1B in 2019. That leaves only one or two spots to upgrade (if you can clear Bruce). There’s not going to be a lot of options for the Mets/new office to make a “splash” and generate excitement. Way to early, and I know the Yankees, Phillies, and Braves, will all be involved... but I could see us as a dark horse.
Can Yo play 1st and will it help keep him healthy? I have no idea. But we know from an attitude standpoint he's probably not a great choice to rebuild/retool around. So they may as well try him at 1st the rest of this year but then be ready to investigate equally large/terrible contracts to swap him for this offseason to open up CF. It goes without saying you do the same with Bruce.
The BP is simple - they need to just spend the money to get high-QUALITY relievers, not middle of the road or past their prime guys. The Yankees have proven that strategy works for the past 4-5 years with Miller, Robertson, Chapman.
If they bring back Frazier at 3B for another year it's not the end of the world, but clearly a position worth upgrading if possible. Same with 2B and the young(ish) duo of Flores/Mcneil. Though obviously you trade Frazier and Flores if you can get something decent back.
In the "crazy ideas" category, here are 2 trade ideas:
1. Wheeler for Ender Inciarte. He's having a down year, but he's on a good contract and would go a long way to fixing the CF and leadoff problems.
2. Bruce or Yo + Wheeler for David Price. Everyone except wheeler is crazy overpaid, but obviously this would be mostly a contract swap. Red Sox get out of what looks like a real bad contract, a replacement starter who may be an upgrade, and perhaps a piece that can help them at 1B. Mets get a very expensive #3 starter, but if he bounces back a much better use of $ than Bruce/Yo.
How do you think Jay Bruce (30m remaining) and Yoenis Cespedes ($75m remaining) are rated around the league right now?
Since Acuna can play CF, Inciarte is a really appealing target to me for Wheeler. He's 27 years old, signed reasonably for 3 more seasons after this one plus an option year. He's a tough to strike out, high average leadoff hitter with some speed who can obviously play great defense at a premium position. If it wasn't the Braves, I'd say throwing in Bautista would make sense to give them a new LF'er also but that reunion is probably not of interest to them.
That's all fair. Since there are more starters in general, to me it's easier to find a #3 SP than a great defensive CF who also contributes offensively (there are only 5-10 of those guys total, at most).
The 1B FA market mostly sucks next year, but that's why I think it's critical that they use the 2nd half of this year to try to see what they have with Cespedes. Alonso's defense worries me and he hasn't exactly lit up AAA yet, so certainly not penciling him in anywhere yet.
Btw who the hell knows if it's realistic, but I kind of like David Price as a target in some kind of salary dump for salary dump trade this offseason. He's still only 32 and it would probably do him well to be in a situation with a lot less expectation (plus NL and pitchers ballpark). Only issue is the BOS outfield/dh is crowded so there's no open positions for the big salaries we have to dump.