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MBavaro : 7/13/2018 8:18 am
I'm kinda on the fence about this. Seems like a dick move by the Hall in response by a seemingly dick move by T.O.

I tend to lean towards, regardless of your justified gripes, you should honor the award and at least show up.
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As much as I dislike TO  
Eli Wilson : 7/13/2018 8:21 am : link
I agree.

Just announce he got inducted and move on.
NFL is acting petty...i am kind of on T.O.s side.  
GMAN4LIFE : 7/13/2018 8:21 am : link
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I think  
NJGiantFan84 : 7/13/2018 8:31 am : link
this article is a little misleading. He won't be honored, but he his name will be included when all of the players in the inducted class are announced. He will also be included in all the booklets. But he won't be honored, which I think is reasonable for somebody who is able to show up and refuses to do so.

"Owens' name will be included when the whole class is announced, Horrigan said, and his photograph will appear in materials about the Hall of Fame weekend."

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Do you guys need anymore reasons  
UConn4523 : 7/13/2018 8:32 am : link
to not like th NFL. Every single PR scenario they botch, it’s truly incredible.
I'm on the fence too  
Milton : 7/13/2018 8:34 am : link
Yeah, it's a dick move by the NFL, but every now and then a dick move is in order.
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God.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/13/2018 8:38 am : link
The NFL could f*ck up a two car funeral.
I'm with the HOF...  
Strip-Sack : 7/13/2018 8:38 am : link
on this one. TO has every right to snub the ceremony, no question, but that doesn't mean they have to do anything other then include his name with the inductees as they have done. Not sure why he's doing what he's doing but it certainly shines a spotlight on TO alone which, based on years of behavioral evidence, seems to always be his MO. Should he have gotten in earlier?...perhaps, but there are many, many, many other players who can share that "slight".
RE: God.  
mfsd : 7/13/2018 8:39 am : link
In comment 14012450 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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The NFL could f*ck up a two car funeral.


Heh. True.
I suspect the gang of pencil neck geeks  
widmerseyebrow : 7/13/2018 8:46 am : link
Who snubbed him twice are behind this at least in part.
If NJGiants has it correct  
Giant John : 7/13/2018 9:15 am : link
I’ve no problem with the NFL’s approach to handling TO. It’s his choice not to attend and be honored.
MBavaro,  
Big Blue '56 : 7/13/2018 9:28 am : link
I’m not on the fence at all..His name should be announced then move on..Who’s the grownup in the room?
RE: I suspect the gang of pencil neck geeks  
Alex_Webster : 7/13/2018 9:29 am : link
In comment 14012457 widmerseyebrow said:
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Who snubbed him twice are behind this at least in part.



Yep, Seems bush league to me. Have some class NFL. Just announce with Video of Accomplishments and be done with it.
He should have been 1st ballot...Period That Team mate BS is not what HOF is about. If it was more about personality then change the requirements. Sport writers have been going down this rabbit hole for years. very sad FYI I think he is a "Troubled Douche" but recent interviews seem that he is more in touch with who he is now. But that does not change how great of a player he was.
T.O.'s Canton  
Les in TO : 7/13/2018 9:34 am : link
bust should be his crying press conference after the Giants beat the cowboys in the playoffs
Team T.O. on this one  
Harvest Blend : 7/13/2018 9:51 am : link
the NFL can't get out of its own way lately.
RE: T.O.'s Canton  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/13/2018 9:53 am : link
In comment 14012491 Les in TO said:
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bust should be his crying press conference after the Giants beat the cowboys in the playoffs


I don't mind TO like he used to when he was tearing us up, but this is hilarious.
*like I used to  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/13/2018 9:54 am : link
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You guys are not “old school”  
Carl in CT : 7/13/2018 9:54 am : link
I would send him a letter (not a text or Igram or any of that shit) and say sorry you can’t make it. When you can you will be inducted in that class. We will hold a spot for you and be done with him until he requests to be there. Period.
Why should the NFL "honor" a guy  
Beezer : 7/13/2018 10:10 am : link
who won't be there? It's not like he died, or can't attend because of a serious family illness. He's not attending as a political "fuck you" to the NFL.

I think as long as he is listed in the program as an inductee, with his bio info, etc., and announced, they've done their due diligence.

Guy was invited. He said no thanks. NFL said, well, all right then.

TO torched relationships on his way out of every organization in the league he played for. I think I heard that in his last season he had 72 receptions (didn't look it up), and that this many years away from the league, he still is in amazing shape. He could have played more, is what I'm hearing/reading ... but folks had tired of his act.

Great player. Hall of Fame-deserving. Great big bag of douches.

Have your little tantrum, TO ... then go the fuck away, for good.
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arcarsenal : 7/13/2018 10:17 am : link
It's petty and stupid. TO is one of the best WR's to ever play this game. Peak TO was a fucking monster. He's always been childish and he was super annoying when he was in PHI/DAL, but I was always a fan of the player. All of this nonsense is ridiculous.
The NFL is really taking the high road here...  
Chris in Philly : 7/13/2018 11:17 am : link
Clowns.
I don't see what they're doing that egregious.  
Beezer : 7/13/2018 11:35 am : link
TO's an ass, pulled an ass move. The NFL said, OK.

They're not snubbing the guy. They're simply not celebrating him in his absence.

Sounds to me like the NFL will have him listed and he'll be inducted. It's completely his decision not to come.
TO pulled a dick move, so the NFL went tit-for-tat  
jcn56 : 7/13/2018 11:46 am : link
You expect more from the league though, don't you?

They're feeding TO at this point. They should have treated him no differently, just that they wouldn't broadcast his speech for the obvious reason that he wouldn't be present to give it.

You know you're losing when it's only you and TO in the room and there isn't an adult present.
What would you....  
Strip-Sack : 7/13/2018 11:47 am : link
have the HOF do? Put his gold jacket on a mannequin during the ceremony the night before? I suppose they could show some highlights but even those are done as a substitution for a long intro speech and he's not getting introduced....seems kinda silly to use this as an example of NFL incompetence to me when there are soooo many other deserving gripes out there.....this just ain't one IMO.
RE: I don't see what they're doing that egregious.  
widmerseyebrow : 7/13/2018 11:49 am : link
In comment 14012588 Beezer said:
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TO's an ass, pulled an ass move. The NFL said, OK.

They're not snubbing the guy. They're simply not celebrating him in his absence.

Sounds to me like the NFL will have him listed and he'll be inducted. It's completely his decision not to come.


By not attending, TO is forfeiting his right to give a speech at the Hall. That's an even trade right there. No need to not honor the guy's career on top of that.

It was petty in the first place to not get him in the first and second time. He said he wouldn't attend after he was snubbed the second time and he's keeping his word.

I never liked the guy during his career, but people should absolutely support his stand against the ass licking of American sports writers who have once again made themselves part of the story.
RE: What would you....  
UConn4523 : 7/13/2018 11:50 am : link
In comment 14012594 Strip-Sack said:
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have the HOF do? Put his gold jacket on a mannequin during the ceremony the night before? I suppose they could show some highlights but even those are done as a substitution for a long intro speech and he's not getting introduced....seems kinda silly to use this as an example of NFL incompetence to me when there are soooo many other deserving gripes out there.....this just ain't one IMO.


Take the high road, announce his name and move on. No one is asking for him to be honored, cherished, or given a highly video. But it’s the NFL so I guess I should expect them to completely drop the ball.

The NFL can’t get out of their own way.
RE: RE: What would you....  
Strip-Sack : 7/13/2018 11:53 am : link
In comment 14012601 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 14012594 Strip-Sack said:


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have the HOF do? Put his gold jacket on a mannequin during the ceremony the night before? I suppose they could show some highlights but even those are done as a substitution for a long intro speech and he's not getting introduced....seems kinda silly to use this as an example of NFL incompetence to me when there are soooo many other deserving gripes out there.....this just ain't one IMO.



Take the high road, announce his name and move on. No one is asking for him to be honored, cherished, or given a highly video. But it’s the NFL so I guess I should expect them to completely drop the ball.

The NFL can’t get out of their own way.


You mean like this...

"Owens' name will be included when the whole class is announced, Horrigan said, and his photograph will appear in materials about the Hall of Fame weekend."
Didn’t read it but sure  
UConn4523 : 7/13/2018 11:57 am : link
The OP said they won’t announce him, that’s what I was referring to. Atleast they are doing that.
If TO were unable to attend for a legit reason  
jcn56 : 7/13/2018 12:09 pm : link
would they give him the same treatment? Probably not.

Play the highlight reel, say Owens declined to attend, show the jacket sitting on a seat or something - take the high road.

It's as if the NFL has become a constant pissing match between management and players, and TBH it's starting to get tiresome. The anthem nonsense is the same deal - it's not about soldiers or taking stands, it's about two parties trying to one up each other, and we're stuck in the middle as fans.
RE: What would you....  
RinR : 7/13/2018 12:11 pm : link
In comment 14012594 Strip-Sack said:
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have the HOF do? Put his gold jacket on a mannequin during the ceremony the night before? I suppose they could show some highlights but even those are done as a substitution for a long intro speech and he's not getting introduced....seems kinda silly to use this as an example of NFL incompetence to me when there are soooo many other deserving gripes out there.....this just ain't one IMO.


^^^^This

I have no problem with how the NFL is handling this. The fact that he should have been in on the first or second ballot is besides the point.

What am I missing here?
HOF is right on this one  
AnnapolisMike : 7/13/2018 12:39 pm : link
His decision not to be there and the focus should be on the guys who are there not on the guy who is not. How is this a screw up on the NFL's part in anyway? This is nothing but a continuation of T.O.'s look at me attitude which is probably why it took him 3 years to be voted in.
Can't TO just have his BFF......  
MOOPS : 7/13/2018 12:46 pm : link
Jeff Garcia accept for him?
HoF is making a mistake...  
bw in dc : 7/13/2018 12:47 pm : link
Two jerk-off moves don't make a right.

TO is a humongous jerk off. He's an embarrassment.

But don't stoop to his level. Announce his name, show some video, and even show his bust.

Trust me, that will make TO look even worse - if that's possible...
RE: RE: I don't see what they're doing that egregious.  
Beezer : 7/13/2018 1:59 pm : link
In comment 14012596 widmerseyebrow said:
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TO's an ass, pulled an ass move. The NFL said, OK.

They're not snubbing the guy. They're simply not celebrating him in his absence.

Sounds to me like the NFL will have him listed and he'll be inducted. It's completely his decision not to come.



By not attending, TO is forfeiting his right to give a speech at the Hall. That's an even trade right there. No need to not honor the guy's career on top of that.


He's being inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame, fercrisakes. How much more "honoring" are they supposed to do when the jack-wad says "FU, I'm not coming."

I have ZERO problem with what the NFL is doing/has done here.
Yeah ... exactly ...  
Beezer : 7/13/2018 2:01 pm : link
The NFL is doing this:

"Owens' name will be included when the whole class is announced, Horrigan said, and his photograph will appear in materials about the Hall of Fame weekend."

I'm somewhat surprised by what seems like a majority of people in this thread saying the NFL should be doing more, or that the NFL has not "taken the high road." Baffling to me.
RE: I'm on the fence too  
Brick72 : 7/13/2018 3:12 pm : link
In comment 14012444 Milton said:
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Yeah, it's a dick move by the NFL, but every now and then a dick move is in order. It moved - ( New Window )
It's a dick move but it's not in order. The classy way to handle it would be to say during the presentation that "Terrell Owens is not here to receive this honor for personal reasons..."

Everyone wins in that scenario.

Everything doesn't have to be about who has the bigger dick.
T.O.  
Giantslifer : 7/13/2018 3:26 pm : link
Not only would I not announce him, I would delay as long as possible placing his "bust" in HOF.
Then I would put in the most unvisited, inconvenient area.

NFL  
UESBLUE : 7/13/2018 3:57 pm : link
should take a higher road then head case TO. This is the old "Youre firing me? Well I quit!"
RE: Yeah ... exactly ...  
widmerseyebrow : 7/13/2018 3:59 pm : link
In comment 14012677 Beezer said:
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The NFL is doing this:

"Owens' name will be included when the whole class is announced, Horrigan said, and his photograph will appear in materials about the Hall of Fame weekend."

I'm somewhat surprised by what seems like a majority of people in this thread saying the NFL should be doing more, or that the NFL has not "taken the high road." Baffling to me.


So you're saying that getting your name and picture in the program and giving a speech is all the honoring there is?

And again, none of this would even be a story if angry little men like Gary Meyers could just judge athletes by what they accomplished on the field.
Yup, makes me glad I had TOs back the day he said he wouldn't attend  
DennyInDenville : 7/13/2018 4:06 pm : link
Screw the NFL. They really are dumb as hell with everything.. it's no wonder every other sport is global besides the NFL despite all the money they dump into international investments to spread the game
RE: RE: I suspect the gang of pencil neck geeks  
Brick72 : 7/13/2018 4:15 pm : link
In comment 14012485 Alex_Webster said:
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In comment 14012457 widmerseyebrow said:

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Who snubbed him twice are behind this at least in part.
Yep, Seems bush league to me. Have some class NFL. Just announce with Video of Accomplishments and be done with it.
He should have been 1st ballot...Period That Team mate BS is not what HOF is about. If it was more about personality then change the requirements. Sport writers have been going down this rabbit hole for years. very sad FYI I think he is a "Troubled Douche" but recent interviews seem that he is more in touch with who he is now. But that does not change how great of a player he was.

And that's exactly the point. When you have the #2 performer at a position the NFL has to find a way to note the accomplishments and recognition. End of story. All of the other BS is secondary.
T.O. is stupid, always has been and always will be. That doesn't change the fact that his achievements on the field should be noted in the same way every other inductee's has been. Show his highlights. Say that Terrell Owns couln't be here for personal reasons. That's an easy Win/Win for both sides without pettiness.

Hey guys, let's get real for a moment. If LT didn't get in on the first or second ballot and decided not to attend for the same reason, would you be making the same argument against him? Really? Granted, there's no conceivable argument that LT wasn't no brainer first ballot, but when it comes to receivers, like him or not, T.O. was a no brainer also.
RE: You guys are not “old school”  
Brick72 : 7/13/2018 4:17 pm : link
In comment 14012507 Carl in CT said:
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I would send him a letter (not a text or Igram or any of that shit) and say sorry you can’t make it. When you can you will be inducted in that class. We will hold a spot for you and be done with him until he requests to be there. Period.

Classy move, Carl.
Next step?  
Big Blue '56 : 7/13/2018 4:18 pm : link
T.O. changes his mind. Would anyone be surprised by that?
RE: Next step?  
DennyInDenville : 7/13/2018 4:41 pm : link
In comment 14012762 Big Blue '56 said:
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T.O. changes his mind. Would anyone be surprised by that?

No and that's why the NFL sucks here. Clearly using manipulation against a retired HOFer, and that's what this is manipulation to TO knowing he's fragile right now and goIng through a tough transition etc.

Very Gross. Kind of disgusting , and I don't wanna hear "well the hall of fame is all class, TO didn't show class" the NFL has much bigger issues regarding all the cte controversy, and manipulating a HoF player who could have Cte into attending is a weak , cheap move.

T.o. Probly either shows up now or doubles down in some way (won't be a good way)
RE: RE: RE: I suspect the gang of pencil neck geeks  
AnnapolisMike : 7/13/2018 5:48 pm : link
In comment 14012759 Brick72 said:
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In comment 14012457 widmerseyebrow said:

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Who snubbed him twice are behind this at least in part.
Yep, Seems bush league to me. Have some class NFL. Just announce with Video of Accomplishments and be done with it.
He should have been 1st ballot...Period That Team mate BS is not what HOF is about. If it was more about personality then change the requirements. Sport writers have been going down this rabbit hole for years. very sad FYI I think he is a "Troubled Douche" but recent interviews seem that he is more in touch with who he is now. But that does not change how great of a player he was.


And that's exactly the point. When you have the #2 performer at a position the NFL has to find a way to note the accomplishments and recognition. End of story. All of the other BS is secondary.
T.O. is stupid, always has been and always will be. That doesn't change the fact that his achievements on the field should be noted in the same way every other inductee's has been. Show his highlights. Say that Terrell Owns couln't be here for personal reasons. That's an easy Win/Win for both sides without pettiness.

Hey guys, let's get real for a moment. If LT didn't get in on the first or second ballot and decided not to attend for the same reason, would you be making the same argument against him? Really? Granted, there's no conceivable argument that LT wasn't no brainer first ballot, but when it comes to receivers, like him or not, T.O. was a no brainer also.


He is in the hall of fame. It's not like he has not been recognized. If TO wants to be a baby and not attend...why should the NFL HOF bend over backwards for him. Celebrate the men that actually respect the ceremony and are glad to be there. Don't shine the light on the one guy who choose to be a baby.

T.O. is and always has been a crybaby. He is the one that has diminished his own legacy by taking his ball and going home.

the NFL should do  
uther99 : 7/13/2018 9:19 pm : link
everything they do for the players in attendance, and then say TO is not hear to speak. Take the high road for once
RE: RE: RE: RE: I suspect the gang of pencil neck geeks  
Brick72 : 7/14/2018 4:46 am : link
In comment 14012798 AnnapolisMike said:
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In comment 14012457 widmerseyebrow said:

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Who snubbed him twice are behind this at least in part.
Yep, Seems bush league to me. Have some class NFL. Just announce with Video of Accomplishments and be done with it.
He should have been 1st ballot...Period That Team mate BS is not what HOF is about. If it was more about personality then change the requirements. Sport writers have been going down this rabbit hole for years. very sad FYI I think he is a "Troubled Douche" but recent interviews seem that he is more in touch with who he is now. But that does not change how great of a player he was.


And that's exactly the point. When you have the #2 performer at a position the NFL has to find a way to note the accomplishments and recognition. End of story. All of the other BS is secondary.
T.O. is stupid, always has been and always will be. That doesn't change the fact that his achievements on the field should be noted in the same way every other inductee's has been. Show his highlights. Say that Terrell Owns couln't be here for personal reasons. That's an easy Win/Win for both sides without pettiness.

Hey guys, let's get real for a moment. If LT didn't get in on the first or second ballot and decided not to attend for the same reason, would you be making the same argument against him? Really? Granted, there's no conceivable argument that LT wasn't no brainer first ballot, but when it comes to receivers, like him or not, T.O. was a no brainer also.



He is in the hall of fame. It's not like he has not been recognized. If TO wants to be a baby and not attend...why should the NFL HOF bend over backwards for him. Celebrate the men that actually respect the ceremony and are glad to be there. Don't shine the light on the one guy who choose to be a baby.

T.O. is and always has been a crybaby. He is the one that has diminished his own legacy by taking his ball and going home.
What part of "Show his highlights. Say that Terrell Owens couldn't be here for personal reasons" would entail the NFL bending over backwards?
RE: RE: RE: RE: I suspect the gang of pencil neck geeks  
Brick72 : 7/14/2018 4:48 am : link
In comment 14012798 AnnapolisMike said:
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In comment 14012457 widmerseyebrow said:

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Who snubbed him twice are behind this at least in part.
Yep, Seems bush league to me. Have some class NFL. Just announce with Video of Accomplishments and be done with it.
He should have been 1st ballot...Period That Team mate BS is not what HOF is about. If it was more about personality then change the requirements. Sport writers have been going down this rabbit hole for years. very sad FYI I think he is a "Troubled Douche" but recent interviews seem that he is more in touch with who he is now. But that does not change how great of a player he was.


And that's exactly the point. When you have the #2 performer at a position the NFL has to find a way to note the accomplishments and recognition. End of story. All of the other BS is secondary.
T.O. is stupid, always has been and always will be. That doesn't change the fact that his achievements on the field should be noted in the same way every other inductee's has been. Show his highlights. Say that Terrell Owns couln't be here for personal reasons. That's an easy Win/Win for both sides without pettiness.

Hey guys, let's get real for a moment. If LT didn't get in on the first or second ballot and decided not to attend for the same reason, would you be making the same argument against him? Really? Granted, there's no conceivable argument that LT wasn't no brainer first ballot, but when it comes to receivers, like him or not, T.O. was a no brainer also.



He is in the hall of fame. It's not like he has not been recognized. If TO wants to be a baby and not attend...why should the NFL HOF bend over backwards for him. Celebrate the men that actually respect the ceremony and are glad to be there. Don't shine the light on the one guy who choose to be a baby.

T.O. is and always has been a crybaby. He is the one that has diminished his own legacy by taking his ball and going home.
What part of "Show his highlights. Say that Terrell Owens couldn't be here for personal reasons" would entail the NFL bending over backwards?
Screw T.O.  
Tark10 : 7/14/2018 9:40 am : link
He was an immature brat on the field and continues to show his ass now. The last thing the NFL needs is more negative publicity. I can see the protest banners at the induction ceremonies now. I've had Directv since 1998 and the NFL package the entire time. Been a football fan since 1971. This may be the last season I retain the NFL package. These assholes are biting the hand that feeds them.
Classless on both sides.  
FStubbs : 7/14/2018 10:06 am : link
Obviously T.O. can't come because ... what team exactly would he go in under? He burned relationships with pretty much every team he ever played for, so none of them would want anything to do with him.

The HoF should just announce his name as a inductee, say he was unable to attend, and keep going. It would be the most prestigious, classy thing to do.

T.O. is who he is, but the Hall of Fame should be better than this.
RE: Why should the NFL  
Bramton1 : 7/14/2018 3:18 pm : link
In comment 14012517 Beezer said:
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who won't be there? It's not like he died, or can't attend because of a serious family illness. He's not attending as a political "fuck you" to the NFL.

I think as long as he is listed in the program as an inductee, with his bio info, etc., and announced, they've done their due diligence.

Guy was invited. He said no thanks. NFL said, well, all right then.

TO torched relationships on his way out of every organization in the league he played for. I think I heard that in his last season he had 72 receptions (didn't look it up), and that this many years away from the league, he still is in amazing shape. He could have played more, is what I'm hearing/reading ... but folks had tired of his act.

Great player. Hall of Fame-deserving. Great big bag of douches.

Have your little tantrum, TO ... then go the fuck away, for good.


^^^^^^ This
I'm with the NFL  
giantstock : 7/15/2018 1:07 pm : link
The other attendees choose to come. It would be classless of the NFL to allow TO's name to be mentioned. Otherwise every player could simply do the same as TO. THE NFL is also a business and wants players to attend and all to share the moment. Those that take the time and energy to come should be rewarded.

TO is still to be honored. Just not on that day in which can care less anyways.

Final point. Unfortunately the guys who held off voting him in are absolutely getting the last laugh. TO played right into their hands. Obviously they dislike him immensely. Now they don't have to hear from him. In essence what they said "Yeah I guess I have to vote you in, but you're a classless individual, so just go away."
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