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Brooks: Ranking of Shurmur/Bettcher as play-calling tandem

Big Blue '56 : 7/14/2018 10:19 am
From Dawg’s thread:

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7.14.18

Brooks NFL.com: Ranking top 5 play-caller tandems; Pats SHOULD NOT trade Gronk
“5) Pat Shurmur and James Bettcher, New York Giants: Despite being dismissed as an afterthought in the NFC East, observers should pay close attention to the Giants due to the coaches' collective ability to elevate the performance of their players. Shurmur is a superb tactician with a solid reputation for simplifying the game for his quarterback and elevating the play of his team's primary playmakers through his play designs. Last season, he helped Case Keenum play at an MVP level and made Stefon Diggs and Adam Thielen the league's most feared 1-2 punch on the perimeter as the primary play designer in Minnesota. With Eli Manning, a two-time Super Bowl MVP, at quarterback and a star-studded supporting cast that includes one of the most explosive playmakers in the game (Odell Beckham, Jr.) and three emerging stars (Evan Engram, Sterling Shepard and Saquon Barkley), we could see Shurmur put together the NFL's top offense in his first season on the job.

Defensively, Bettcher doesn't get enough credit for his exceptional work as the defensive coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals from 2015 to '17. He not only presided over a defense that finished no lower than sixth overall in each of his three seasons at the helm, but he did it utilizing a blitz-heavy scheme that befuddled opponents with exotic five- and six-man pressures from every angle. Considering the success guys like Chandler Jones (NFL sack leader in 2017), Tyrann Mathieu and Patrick Peterson enjoyed in the system, it is easy to envision the Giants' top players -- Olivier Vernon, Landon Collins and Janoris Jenkins -- stepping up their respective games in a scheme that sets them up to make more splash plays in 2018. With that in mind, the Giants' coordinators snag a spot on this list in anticipation of a remarkable turnaround this season.”



A bunch of us have been saying this since the get-go. We shall see of course
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Case Keenum was not playing at an MVP level  
youtoo2 : 7/14/2018 10:34 am : link
He had 3500 yards passing and 22 TDs. That is a very good season when you throw in the really high completion percent, but its not MVP level. Didn't he have a great running game and a defense that did not give up alot of points?
RE: Case Keenum was not playing at an MVP level  
Big Blue '56 : 7/14/2018 10:46 am : link
In comment 14013022 youtoo2 said:
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He had 3500 yards passing and 22 TDs. That is a very good season when you throw in the really high completion percent, but its not MVP level. Didn't he have a great running game and a defense that did not give up alot of points?


Stats, stats, stats! Always stats. CK was playing at an MVP level, imv. He greatly helped bring Minny to the “final four.”
Seems we are fortunate  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 7/14/2018 11:22 am : link
To have Betcher as DC. Could probably have been a HQ.
Agree with BB56  
ZogZerg : 7/14/2018 11:23 am : link
Watching the games - Keenum surprised the hell out of me.
The little bit of Arizona I watched  
mrvax : 7/14/2018 11:30 am : link
had me wishing their DC was here. And now he is.
I'm stoked for this season.
RE: Case Keenum was not playing at an MVP level  
WillVAB : 7/14/2018 11:39 am : link
In comment 14013022 youtoo2 said:
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He had 3500 yards passing and 22 TDs. That is a very good season when you throw in the really high completion percent, but its not MVP level. Didn't he have a great running game and a defense that did not give up alot of points?


I guess you can’t see the forest through the trees. Keenum was a 3rd string QB. Shurmur did a hell of a job with that offense considering the OL wasn’t that good and they lost Cook for the year early on.

This article illustrates a key point that many are overlooking. Shurmur does a great job with QBs and is one of the better offensive minds in the game. Bechter is one of the top up and coming defensive minds in the game. Both coaches are going to have more talent to work with than they’ve had in prior jobs.
We are in much better shape with these coaches  
George from PA : 7/14/2018 11:46 am : link
Just not sure how long it will take to get everyone on same page......and the 1st 7 game gauntlet is a tough start.

Love that we have a week of live action vs another team....a must imo in preseason.
Premature...  
DonQuixote : 7/14/2018 11:59 am : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/14/2018 12:09 pm : link
I don't see a ton of people dismissing us as a 'afterthought'. A lot of people I've read & seen on TV think we're a strong contender for a big bounce back season.
After watching  
sshin05 : 7/14/2018 12:09 pm : link
All or Nothing on Amazon Prime about the Rams two seasons ago, it's nice to see Case Keenum get some redemption back. Hopefully he does well in Denver.
i won't freak out if we have a slow start  
markky : 7/14/2018 6:54 pm : link
given limited practice time and players learning new systems it might take 4 games to kick into gear.
Its reading stuff like this that has me absolutely geeked  
ZGiants98 : 7/14/2018 7:12 pm : link
for this season. The coordinators alone should offer a MASSIVE upgrade in 2018. It looks like we finally have some adults in the room that know what the fuck they are doing in a modern NFL. Not to mention countless players coming back to health ala Odell and all of our additions. Man...

If the offensive line holds we are a playoff team and likely a very exciting one at that.
HUGE PLAY CALLING UPGRADE  
mittenedman : 7/16/2018 1:45 pm : link
Shurmur replacing McAdoo is the biggest upgrade any team made in the NFL.

Bettcher's blitz schemes are much better suited for the modern game too. I love Spags but his scheme was JJ's who designed it to attack 5- and 7-step drops. The concepts did not seamlessly translate to today's quick game.

Bettcher doesn't do the delays and the rat coverage with his DLinemen. He gets his blitzers up on the line and uses players with similar skillsets to make the OL guess which one's blitzing or dropping. In AZ it was Honey Badger he'd use in an attacking position off the slot. He does not have a player like HB this year but he may use Landon Collins there.

In any event, Bettcher's blitzes are designed to disrupt the quick passing game much better than Spags were.
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