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NFT: 2018 World Cup Final - France vs Croatia

Big Rick in FL : 7/15/2018 9:30 am
David vs Goliath. France is the far superior team talent wise, but Croatia has the bigger heart. Three straight extra time games for Croatia. It hasn't taken a toll on them yet. They don't seem to get tired, but their injury report this week has been pretty rough.

Who you guys got today? How about the Golden Ball & Golden Glove?

My head says France. My heart wants Croatia. I don't see how they pull it off though. With the way the French defense has played Croatia might be lucky to score 1 goal.

Golden Ball I'm going with Luka. I think he's been by far the best player of the tournament. If not him I think N'Golo Kante should win it, but I can't see FIFA allowing a DM to win it. So if it isn't Modric I'm going with Mbappe.

Golden Glove is a little bit tougher. Courtois has been the best GK of the tournament, but his team came in 3rd place. Hugo Lloris has played very well, but due to the defense in front of him he's had a lot easier tournament then Courtois, Pickford & Subasic. If France win I think Lloris wins the award. If Croatia win I think Courtois will win it.

Final predictions
France 2 Croatia 0
Golden Ball - Modric
Golden Glove - Lloris
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thank you  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/15/2018 9:32 am : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/15/2018 9:33 am : link
Rooting for Croatia, but expecting France to win.
The first few comments of the deleted thread.  
Big Rick in FL : 7/15/2018 9:33 am : link

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I don’t follow soccer,
Big Blue '56 : 9:12 am : link : reply
but am I allowed to root for Croatia? I mean I think Macron is kinda cool and all, but have to go with the little guy


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I think
Jon in NYC : 9:18 am : link : reply
the OP underestimates Croatia's talent. Not really a fluke that they're here. They may have the best midfield in the tournament. Almost their entire XI plays for top level teams.

The thing that I think will doom them today is tired legs. They've just had a much more strenuous journey so far, both physically and emotionally. I say France 3-1.


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Big Rick beat me to it.
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9:21 am : link : reply
There's a thread going on Twitter about the recent history of Croatian football, the fans trying to get the team kicked out of qualifying, and the court charges that may get Modric convicted of perjury, and it's insane. But they are here with one game left.

France is grinding along, and they have the ultimate Modric-stopper in Kante. The only ways I see Croatia scoring is if they start getting Perisic out wide against the weak French fullbacks, like he did against England. And set pieces/free kicks.

France 2-1.


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Head screams France
Sec 103 : 9:26 am : link : reply
Heart bleeds Croatia...
Croatia 2-1 in two OTs...
This very personal. Please do NOT  
Jay in Toronto : 7/15/2018 9:39 am : link
veer into the political.



Why I cannot root for Croatia. - ( New Window )
Guess we should've kept the other thread!  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/15/2018 9:39 am : link
That gidiefor never rests.
RE: This very personal. Please do NOT  
UConn4523 : 7/15/2018 9:41 am : link
In comment 14013428 Jay in Toronto said:
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veer into the political.

Why I cannot root for Croatia. - ( New Window )


Why even post that then, come on...
RE: RE: This very personal. Please do NOT  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/15/2018 9:43 am : link
In comment 14013432 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 14013428 Jay in Toronto said:


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veer into the political.

Why I cannot root for Croatia. - ( New Window )



Why even post that then, come on...


Exactly.
Jon  
Big Rick in FL : 7/15/2018 9:43 am : link
Not underestimating Croatia at all. They are very good. They have talent. Just not the World Class talent that France has. France is insanely talented. As we've seen throughout this tournament and they seem to be getting better.
Back to the actual soccer  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/15/2018 9:46 am : link
Golden Ball - Modric
Golden Glove - Pickford
The trophy has arrived!!!!!  
Big Rick in FL : 7/15/2018 9:48 am : link
Didn't realize they kept it in a Louis Vuitton case.

RE: Jon  
Jon in NYC : 7/15/2018 9:49 am : link
In comment 14013435 Big Rick in FL said:
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Not underestimating Croatia at all. They are very good. They have talent. Just not the World Class talent that France has. France is insanely talented. As we've seen throughout this tournament and they seem to be getting better.


I agree, France is top to bottom a better team.

I've just heard a bunch of the "Croatia is a scrappy underdog" narrative -- not from you, but from a lot of place this week -- and it doesn't resonate. Their starting CM pair plays for Barca and Madrid for crying out loud.
Jon  
Big Rick in FL : 7/15/2018 10:08 am : link
I think a lot of that scrappy underdog stuff is because they needed a 90th minute winner to beat Iceland & that they've trailed in each of their last 3 games yet still pulled off the win.
One of the craziest stats  
Big Rick in FL : 7/15/2018 10:12 am : link
I think I've ever seen in soccer is that Olivier Giroud has played 465 minutes this tournament yet hasn't had a single shot on target. That just speaks to how good they are. The teams starting Striker doesn't have a single shot on target let alone a goal and they are in the World Cup Final.

I'd have loved to see France with Benzema starting. He's a shell of his former self, but he's still superior to Giroud in just about every category.
The narrative is setting up well for a Giroud  
UConn4523 : 7/15/2018 10:23 am : link
goal or even game winner. He’s had a dreadful tournament and this is likely his last WC game to boot.
spot ion UConn, and ill remember you called it  
wigs in nyc : 7/15/2018 10:32 am : link
I like Giroud, and think he’ll get his head on one, or be the first to a rebound out of a scrum today
That said I am rooting for Croatia  
UConn4523 : 7/15/2018 10:35 am : link
they were my pick from the beginning and a good friend of mine is Croatian. Also nice to see some new blood win.
Good  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 7/15/2018 10:36 am : link
I need something to help me nap, and watching a bunch of flopping and agonizing horrific injuries that they caue with a miracle spray.

Go Croatia for Diehl and of course f*ck France.
RE: Good  
UConn4523 : 7/15/2018 10:37 am : link
In comment 14013474 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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I need something to help me nap, and watching a bunch of flopping and agonizing horrific injuries that they caue with a miracle spray.

Go Croatia for Diehl and of course f*ck France.


You are definitely a tough guy.
I don't see this being close  
DC Gmen Fan : 7/15/2018 10:51 am : link
4-0 France.
I have a very strong feeling  
chopperhatch : 7/15/2018 10:55 am : link
That Croatia wins this. Manzukic is exceptional at reacting to balls and slithers into open space where his first touch is lethal.

3-1 Croatia.
France will finish the job  
Kyle in NY : 7/15/2018 11:01 am : link
Four goals allowed all tournament, their defense is too strong. Croatia has played an extra 90 minutes plus two PK shootouts, that’s got to take an effect eventually.
RE: I have a very strong feeling  
Big Rick in FL : 7/15/2018 11:01 am : link
In comment 14013490 chopperhatch said:
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That Croatia wins this. Manzukic is exceptional at reacting to balls and slithers into open space where his first touch is lethal.

3-1 Croatia.


He hasn't seen anything like this France defense. Probably the best CB pairing in the World with maybe the best CB in the World. Croatia scoring 3 would be an absolute shocker.
If Croatia wins  
10thAve : 7/15/2018 11:01 am : link
why no love for Subasic for Golden Glove? Two shootout wins, and I think in the Denmark one didn't he save 3 in the shootout?

Either way, hoping for a Croatia victory, but just looking forward to a competitive game.
Unfortunately I have to DVR and watch this afternoon  
UConn4523 : 7/15/2018 11:03 am : link
I’ll be back to discuss later
RE: If Croatia wins  
chopperhatch : 7/15/2018 11:08 am : link
In comment 14013497 10thAve said:
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why no love for Subasic for Golden Glove? Two shootout wins, and I think in the Denmark one didn't he save 3 in the shootout?

Either way, hoping for a Croatia victory, but just looking forward to a competitive game.


I never said it was logical. Lol. I think we are due for a shocker
Great start for Croatia  
dpinzow : 7/15/2018 11:16 am : link
pinning the French back
France finally mounts their first attack  
dpinzow : 7/15/2018 11:17 am : link
and Mbappe almost gets through. They win a free kick through Griezmann
Just give France a tiny bit of daylight and they go in front  
dpinzow : 7/15/2018 11:19 am : link
It's off of Manduzkic's head. Possibly an own goal
Great, 1st goal  
section125 : 7/15/2018 11:19 am : link
because of a dive.....
A dive could cost a team the World Cup  
D-Rod : 7/15/2018 11:20 am : link
Ref will hear about it
I thought Croatia needed to score  
Big Rick in FL : 7/15/2018 11:21 am : link
First to have any shot at this game. Not a good start for them. That France goal should really open the counter attack for France. Provided Croatia don't have a quick reply.
RE: France finally mounts their first attack  
Eman11 : 7/15/2018 11:21 am : link
In comment 14013505 dpinzow said:
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and Mbappe almost gets through. They win a free kick through Griezmann


Definitely looked like a dive to me. He sold it well and the ref bought it.
Absolutely cruel if Croatia lose that way  
dpinzow : 7/15/2018 11:21 am : link
horrible
RE: Absolutely cruel if Croatia lose that way  
Eman11 : 7/15/2018 11:28 am : link
In comment 14013513 dpinzow said:
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horrible


Agreed.

It doesn't appear to have shaken them up or knocked them off their game though.
Perisic! 1-1  
dpinzow : 7/15/2018 11:28 am : link
What a strike
What a fucking goal  
Big Rick in FL : 7/15/2018 11:28 am : link
Good lord. Game on!!
Great goal.  
section125 : 7/15/2018 11:29 am : link
Beautiful strike.

1-1
It took a deflection off Varane  
dpinzow : 7/15/2018 11:29 am : link
but it's Perisic's goal
RE: Absolutely cruel if Croatia lose that way  
chopperhatch : 7/15/2018 11:29 am : link
In comment 14013513 dpinzow said:
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horrible


Pogba's pull down of Mandzukic was more convincing.

Perisic! Great set piece
If you want to see how they're reacting in Croatia  
dpinzow : 7/15/2018 11:31 am : link
this is a good stream
Zagreb - ( New Window )
Pericić has been a revelation this WC  
ColHowPepper : 7/15/2018 11:32 am : link
played like a madman in 2H vs. England before he tired

Holden gets about 1/3 of his calls wrong, even w/ advantage of replay (and the master of the obvious and the mistakes dpin piles on), a clear foul vs. Griezemann that led to FK and own goal

early on, France has been playing too methodically, too slow, and Croatia MFs have been able to cut off the channels easily
RE: Pericić has been a revelation this WC  
dpinzow : 7/15/2018 11:33 am : link
In comment 14013523 ColHowPepper said:
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played like a madman in 2H vs. England before he tired

Holden gets about 1/3 of his calls wrong, even w/ advantage of replay (and the master of the obvious and the mistakes dpin piles on), a clear foul vs. Griezemann that led to FK and own goal

early on, France has been playing too methodically, too slow, and Croatia MFs have been able to cut off the channels easily


Perisic plays for Inter so he definitely has some quality
That's a PK  
Big Rick in FL : 7/15/2018 11:35 am : link
Or at least it should be
That's going to be a penalty to France  
dpinzow : 7/15/2018 11:35 am : link
Croatian handball in the box, pretty obvious
Yeah he waved  
section125 : 7/15/2018 11:37 am : link
at the ball. PK is correct.
2-1 France  
dpinzow : 7/15/2018 11:38 am : link
Griezmann easily slots the penalty into the net, Subasic dived the wrong way
Tough break for Croatia  
Kyle in NY : 7/15/2018 11:39 am : link
but it’s the right call. France has created literally nothing and they have two goals. They won’t mind though
RE: Tough break for Croatia  
dpinzow : 7/15/2018 11:41 am : link
In comment 14013532 Kyle in NY said:
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but it’s the right call. France has created literally nothing and they have two goals. They won’t mind though


Exactly. They have done next to nothing. A questionable free kick with a lucky break on the Mandzukic own goal and a handball off a corner. They've literally had 2 attacks the entire game so far...2 goals
I still...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/15/2018 11:50 am : link
hate the fact that one of the running themes in this World Cup is that flopping gets rewarded.
Imagine dominating the WC Final and being down 2-1 at the half  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/15/2018 11:52 am : link
France has done nothing.
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