NFT: Degrom's agent says Mets should extend or trade Degrom

Here are his quotes reacting to what his agent said.

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“We’ve been open to discussing long-term deals with the Mets. There’s been no numbers discussed, and I’ve enjoyed my time here. … I would love it to be here with the Mets. We’ll just have to see what happens. "I would love to play here for my whole career. I think it’s just kind of deciding what we see as the future. It’s something that’s in the Mets’ control, and kind of out of mine.”

The irony of the bolded statement is that literally the only things that haven't been a disaster for this franchise this year have been in JDG's control.

He should have at least 5 more wins this season. He constantly goes 7 or more innings. Such a great player. Too bad he gets limited run support.

I hope he gets rewarded with the contract he deserves or gets traded somewhere he can win. I'm still a very big fan of his and he's been about as much of a good soldier as someone in his shoes possibly could be.

In comment 14014273 arcarsenal said:

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I hope he gets rewarded with the contract he deserves or gets traded somewhere he can win. I'm still a very big fan of his and he's been about as much of a good soldier as someone in his shoes possibly could be.

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He deserves better. I have zero faith the Mets will do the right thing in this situation- whatever that may be. They will completely botch it.

to trade deGrom and/or Thor. The Mets have shown neither the inclination or the ability to build a serious and consistent contender around these guys. Extending them will result in them outlaying a lot of money for 2 pitchers while still mostly ignoring the rest of the roster. There is nothing to indicate the Mets would not continue to waste 2 front line aces in their rotation for the next several years.

if that doesn’t do it, I’d field trade offers.

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then he shouldn't be traded until the new regime is hired in the offseason

In comment 14014273 arcarsenal said:

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I hope he gets rewarded with the contract he deserves or gets traded somewhere he can win. I'm still a very big fan of his and he's been about as much of a good soldier as someone in his shoes possibly could be.

You’re a Yankee fan now?! Wow. You were a great Met fan on this board. I hope you did the same towards the Knicks, because as poorly the Mets have been, the Knicks have been 1000x MORE incompetent.

won't do the right thing with Degrom but they keep Reyes around because of sentimentality...."And that, according to sources within the industry, is because the Wilpon ownership does not believe a release befits a man of Reyes’ stature in franchise lore.".....The Mets blow!!!!

Fuck him and his agent. They seriously are threatening he could become a locker room cancer? Seriously? Things just keep getting better.

the nerve of Degrom.

In comment 14014312 Keith said:

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the nerve of Degrom.

He can ask for an extension all he wants but demand a trade or threaten he could become a distraction? Wtf. Never expected this from him. If this was Harvey people would be on fire right now roasting him. DeGrom has 2.5 years of control left and will be 32 going on 33 when he’s a FA. We don’t have to a damn thing for him.

In comment 14014311 ZGiants98 said:

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Fuck him and his agent. They seriously are threatening he could become a locker room cancer? Seriously? Things just keep getting better.

Probably the best thing to happen if you are a Mets fan. Either they trade him or pay him and hopefully it isn’t dragged out anymore. Someone needs to push management...

In comment 14014303 Sean said:

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In comment 14014273 arcarsenal said: Quote: I hope he gets rewarded with the contract he deserves or gets traded somewhere he can win. I'm still a very big fan of his and he's been about as much of a good soldier as someone in his shoes possibly could be. You’re a Yankee fan now?! Wow. You were a great Met fan on this board. I hope you did the same towards the Knicks, because as poorly the Mets have been, the Knicks have been 1000x MORE incompetent.

Believe it or not, I stuck with the Knicks. I think they're moving in a better direction now and I'd never root for the Nets. I'm also much more of a baseball fan at this point, so it's easier for me to deal with the lost Knicks seasons since I already know Golden State is just going to win yet again.

I just completely ran out of patience and willingness to deal with the Mets. I still hope they turn it around and wish them well - the fans deserve better. It's just not for me anymore. I got way too tired of completely non-competitive seasons like this one, last season, and basically every one since the collapses in 2007 and 2008 sans a flash in the pan WS run in 2015 and being fortunate enough to get to a play in game in 2016 with less than 90 wins.

It's an incompetent, directionless franchise. I just got tired of not being able to enjoy baseball season and have infinitely more faith in the Yankees.

In comment 14014321 UConn4523 said:

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In comment 14014311 ZGiants98 said: Quote: Fuck him and his agent. They seriously are threatening he could become a locker room cancer? Seriously? Things just keep getting better. Probably the best thing to happen if you are a Mets fan. Either they trade him or pay him and hopefully it isn’t dragged out anymore. Someone needs to push management...

Why should I want them to pay him? He’s ours for 2.5 years. We pay him and all the risk is on the team. Fuck that.

That you want the Mets, as of right now, to simply ride out the remaining two+ years of control.

deGrom isn’t saying you need to pay him right now. And he isn’t saying you need to trade him right now. There’s a direct soundbite of him saying it’s all in the Met’s control.

If you read between the lines, he’s saying that he won’t re-sign here in 2.5 years, so do it now or he eventually walks. (Could he be bluffing? Absolutely)

In comment 14014326 ZGiants98 said:

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In comment 14014321 UConn4523 said: Quote: In comment 14014311 ZGiants98 said: Quote: Fuck him and his agent. They seriously are threatening he could become a locker room cancer? Seriously? Things just keep getting better. Probably the best thing to happen if you are a Mets fan. Either they trade him or pay him and hopefully it isn’t dragged out anymore. Someone needs to push management... Why should I want them to pay him? He’s ours for 2.5 years. We pay him and all the risk is on the team. Fuck that.

Because you can’t expect the best player on any team to shut up and deal with being severely underpaid and not winning at all with no plan for the future for 3 straight seasons. How often do star players in baseball go all the way to FA without getting a new deal anyway? Maybe it’s a year early but he’s played nice for a while now.

Coming off years they played well(before free agency) but won’t pay a home grown player, one of the best pitchers in baseball.

In comment 14014335 bigbluehoya said:

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That you want the Mets, as of right now, to simply ride out the remaining two+ years of control. deGrom isn’t saying you need to pay him right now. And he isn’t saying you need to trade him right now. There’s a direct soundbite of him saying it’s all in the Met’s control. If you read between the lines, he’s saying that he won’t re-sign here in 2.5 years, so do it now or he eventually walks. (Could he be bluffing? Absolutely)

I’m not taking his quote that way at all. He’s threatening to become a distraction and asking to be traded if they don’t extend. The best two years of DeGrom remaining years are likely his next two. Pitchers don’t age well. Mets seriously don’t have to do anything. And shouldn’t.

“If the Mets don’t share same interest, we believe their best course of action is to seriously consider trade opportunities now,” Van Waganen continued. “The inertia of current situation could complicate Jacob’s relationship with the club and creates an atmosphere of indecision.”

The Mets have sat down with DeGrom in multiple offseaaons and discussed extensions. He clearly wanted more than the Mets were offering.

why pay anyone until the hit FA then? Yet all teams do it because the top players, especially homegrown/drafted players, have already been loyal and productive. He’s kept his mouth shut and has dealt with a clusterfuck in management which is wasting his career.

In comment 14014354 ZGiants98 said:

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The Mets have sat down with DeGrom in multiple offseaaons and discussed extensions. He clearly wanted more than the Mets were offering.

Without knowing the numbers what does that even prove? Who here thinks the Mets made a compelling offer? Any hands out there...anyone?

In comment 14014356 UConn4523 said:

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why pay anyone until the hit FA then? Yet all teams do it because the top players, especially homegrown/drafted players, have already been loyal and productive. He’s kept his mouth shut and has dealt with a clusterfuck in management which is wasting his career.

Because deGrom will be 33 and it isn’t similar to other free agents and the history of SP maintaining what they achieved in their primes at that age and older is slim to none, he’s had two major arm surgeries, and give me a break with the Mets owing him crap... he kept his mouth shut?? Seriously? . The Mets have done nothing wrong by deGrom. He’s had two years in the postseason and two down years. Poor him.

In comment 14014354 ZGiants98 said:

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The Mets have sat down with DeGrom in multiple offseaaons and discussed extensions. He clearly wanted more than the Mets were offering.

And? I'm sure they talk to every talented player they have under control with below market deals. I know you are a Mets apologist but even for you this seems like a strange statement. They spoke and therefore DeGrom's ask is unfair? If they offer Nimmo 5 million guaranteed for 6 years they discussed an extension right? If we knew what was offered or even "The Mets made a generous offer but were rebuffed" this would matter otherwise it's not news.

In comment 14014359 UConn4523 said:

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In comment 14014354 ZGiants98 said: Quote: The Mets have sat down with DeGrom in multiple offseaaons and discussed extensions. He clearly wanted more than the Mets were offering. Without knowing the numbers what does that even prove? Who here thinks the Mets made a compelling offer? Any hands out there...anyone?

It proves that they did share mutual interest in an extension. No need to make threats and act like a fucking baby.

In comment 14014366 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 14014354 ZGiants98 said: Quote: The Mets have sat down with DeGrom in multiple offseaaons and discussed extensions. He clearly wanted more than the Mets were offering. And? I'm sure they talk to every talented player they have under control with below market deals. I know you are a Mets apologist but even for you this seems like a strange statement. They spoke and therefore DeGrom's ask is unfair? If they offer Nimmo 5 million guaranteed for 6 years they discussed an extension right? If we knew what was offered or even "The Mets made a generous offer but were rebuffed" this would matter otherwise it's not news.

I could care less what he asked for or what the Mets offered. I was only pointing out that they both had interest in an extension. I don’t like deGroms threads. They are hollow and stupid. Mets don’t hdve to do a damn thing.

Everybody would be in hysterics.

you have limited info and are flying off the handle and jumping to conclusions.

If he’s going to be 33 and you don’t want to pay him then make a trade and be done with it. I have no idea why anyone would get this upset over it. It’s a business, not just for the Mets but for DeGrom. He’s kept quiet and played nice for a while, it’s not like he’s only been pitching well for 2 years.

that is correct and thats how they are acting. They let it get to this point, and now he’s responding, shit happens.

In comment 14014371 UConn4523 said:

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you have limited info and are flying off the handle and jumping to conclusions. If he’s going to be 33 and you don’t want to pay him then make a trade and be done with it. I have no idea why anyone would get this upset over it. It’s a business, not just for the Mets but for DeGrom. He’s kept quiet and played nice for a while, it’s not like he’s only been pitching well for 2 years.

Why should I make a trade? 2.5 years of ace control won’t benefit the Mets over the next couple of years?? Huh? I’ll decide if I want to extend him when I have to. Not a moment before. The same people that drool over a deGrom extension now are the same people that were totally fine signing Cespedes to a 7 year deal the moment he hit free agency.

In comment 14014372 UConn4523 said:

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that is correct and thats how they are acting. They let it get to this point, and now he’s responding, shit happens.

Lol. He’s responding... let’s see how he “responds”. Is he not going to play? Is he going to kick a can around? It’s hollow and it’s stupid. It’s just a bad look for him. He has zero leverage.

him available for trade. Doesn't mean they can't say no, but they'd be dumb not to. They aren't winning a thing in the next few years and he can help rebuild a brutal farm system.

Out of all of the possible ways that the Mets can handle the JdG situation, he one that you’re advocating for (ride it out and let him walk) is the option that 90% of fans would tell you is hands-down the only unacceptable approach.

The Mets are well within their rights to sit on it and pay him peanuts relative to production for another couple years - I just think it sucks for deGrom that he's in a position like this where he's pitched like a legit ace at a few points in his career, has had some great seasons, and is still pitching for less than 10M per year.

I know, why feel bad for a guy making 7.5 Million dollars...

But when Max Scherzer is getting 3x what deGrom is this year, and deGrom is actually outpitching Max.. well, that sucks.

2017 was the first season deGrom even made more than 1M.

Hopefully he ages well. He's just one of those guys who, because he was a late bloomer, is going to get into his mid-30's without seeing a real MLB payday. And again, that's not necessarily the Mets fault - it's just the way the league is structured, but it sucks for deGrom and I hope he gets to see the money he deserves soon regardless of who gives it to him.

for him. Nothing at all. They/he doesn't want to be wasted on the Mets making pennies. Either pay him to stay in that garbage situation or trade him to make peanuts in a better situation. It's not unreasonable of an ask for his agents.

In comment 14014375 Keith said:

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him available for trade. Doesn't mean they can't say no, but they'd be dumb not to. They aren't winning a thing in the next few years and he can help rebuild a brutal farm system.

Farm system will be middle of the pack heading into 2019 and the Mets are choosing to re-tool, not rebuild. No reason to trade deGrom unless you are blowing the whole thing up... and we aren’t.

In comment 14014374 ZGiants98 said:

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In comment 14014372 UConn4523 said: Quote: that is correct and thats how they are acting. They let it get to this point, and now he’s responding, shit happens. Lol. He’s responding... let’s see how he “responds”. Is he not going to play? Is he going to kick a can around? It’s hollow and it’s stupid. It’s just a bad look for him. He has zero leverage.

I actually think he has a shitload of leverage, haha.

that's another bad one. Blow it up and rebuild the system and build it all again. They had a window over the last few years, but were unwilling to spend the necessary funds for offense and now that window is closed. They aren't winning anything in the next 2-3 years. Blow it up and build again.

In comment 14014375 Keith said:

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him available for trade. Doesn't mean they can't say no, but they'd be dumb not to. They aren't winning a thing in the next few years and he can help rebuild a brutal farm system.

They should be calling every team in baseball and asking for absurd prices. There is no downside to calling these teams. The Mets actually have quite a bit of talent at the lower minors ie 2+ years away. DeGrom's current greatness does not lineup with their likely window of being good so either you accept you will be giving him an extension in the future or youre open to trading him. I was going through my own "top" list and I'd say as many as 6 or 7 of the Mets top 25 prospects are teenagers ie very far away.

In comment 14014376 bigbluehoya said:

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Out of all of the possible ways that the Mets can handle the JdG situation, he one that you’re advocating for (ride it out and let him walk) is the option that 90% of fans would tell you is hands-down the only unacceptable approach.

First of all, thank God fans don’t run baseball teams. Second of all, I’m not opposed to him getting a second deal with the Mets but with our injury history situation he can prove his health and capabilities for us on his own over the next few seasons. Almost zero upside to spending huge dollars now when his value is at its absolute peak.

In comment 14014383 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 14014375 Keith said: Quote: him available for trade. Doesn't mean they can't say no, but they'd be dumb not to. They aren't winning a thing in the next few years and he can help rebuild a brutal farm system. They should be calling every team in baseball and asking for absurd prices. There is no downside to calling these teams. The Mets actually have quite a bit of talent at the lower minors ie 2+ years away. DeGrom's current greatness does not lineup with their likely window of being good so either you accept you will be giving him an extension in the future or youre open to trading him. I was going through my own "top" list and I'd say as many as 6 or 7 of the Mets top 25 prospects are teenagers ie very far away.

Agree 1000%. With the current pitchers available, I think the Mets can ask for a ton and probably would get a ton. As they should. This is the correct thing to do.

In comment 14014380 UConn4523 said:

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In comment 14014374 ZGiants98 said: Quote: In comment 14014372 UConn4523 said: Quote: that is correct and thats how they are acting. They let it get to this point, and now he’s responding, shit happens. Lol. He’s responding... let’s see how he “responds”. Is he not going to play? Is he going to kick a can around? It’s hollow and it’s stupid. It’s just a bad look for him. He has zero leverage. I actually think he has a shitload of leverage, haha.

Meek isn’t that cute. Care to explain?

for the agent, they have an excellent relationship with Van Wagenen. He has Tebow and Cespedes as clients. He's just doing his job. It's not like he came out and said "The Wilpons are so cheap!". Boras routinely mocks the Mets and yet they draft/sign Boras clients.

In comment 14014311 ZGiants98 said:

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Fuck him and his agent. They seriously are threatening he could become a locker room cancer? Seriously? Things just keep getting better.

Fuck him and his agent? Are fn serious? Would you wait to push for an extension for another 2.5 years? This is absolutely the right thing for him to do. If it was your career you'd do the same damn thing or you'd be a hapless fool.

I personally think the best thing they can do is deal him now and get a haul that will jumpstart a rebuild. I don't see them being competitive between now and the time he's due a new deal, nor do I see the Mets being the team that pays him post-arb years - so, why not get the max return on him now?

A massive haul for deGrom but I’m not trading him for anything less than a franchise altering package. Something that would bring a team to its knees for a championship run or two.

That has nothing to do with deGrom and his agents quotes today. DeGrom acted like an asshole and that’s what I’m commenting on.

In comment 14014390 allstarjim said:

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In comment 14014311 ZGiants98 said: Quote: Fuck him and his agent. They seriously are threatening he could become a locker room cancer? Seriously? Things just keep getting better. Fuck him and his agent? Are fn serious? Would you wait to push for an extension for another 2.5 years? This is absolutely the right thing for him to do. If it was your career you'd do the same damn thing or you'd be a hapless fool.

Lol ok.