According to a couple of online sources (SNY & Pinstripe Alley), Yankees are out of the running for Machado. Speculation is that Philly is the front runner.
but Andujar is really the guy that should be available in all trade talks for a top pitcher, either this deadline or next off-season.
He probably has a ton of value on the trade market and he's also the most easily replaceable top prospect that we have. I dont see him ever fulfilling his potential with his lack of plate discipline and lack of overall awareness. The other day the Yankees had Bauer almost out of the game in the 6th, Bird gets out in 2 pitches and he goes up there swinging away at garbage on the first pitch. Mind numbing.
Manny Machado's OBP his first three years were .294, .314, .324. This year, his 7th in the majors, is his first year with a high OBP.
on the idea of winning one for Trout I think Skaggs is worth good propects since he is a tall lefty with good numbers. But the Angels play next to Disney land and that is the world they live in. So Happ or Hamells become guys you can pick up withoput giving up too much, although neither pitcher is young and improving. Both are older and declining but still have good stike out to innings pitched ratios. Then hope either one can push it up too another level when pitching for a contender. They could probaly get both of them. I would stay away from Fulmer.. he is a twin of Sonny Gray.
on the idea of winning one for Trout I think Skaggs is worth good propects since he is a tall lefty with good numbers. But the Angels play next to Disney land and that is the world they live in. So Happ or Hamells become guys you can pick up withoput giving up too much, although neither pitcher is young and improving. Both are older and declining but still have good stike out to innings pitched ratios. Then hope either one can push it up too another level when pitching for a contender. They could probaly get both of them. I would stay away from Fulmer.. he is a twin of Sonny Gray.
on the idea of winning one for Trout I think Skaggs is worth good propects since he is a tall lefty with good numbers. But the Angels play next to Disney land and that is the world they live in. So Happ or Hamells become guys you can pick up withoput giving up too much, although neither pitcher is young and improving. Both are older and declining but still have good stike out to innings pitched ratios. Then hope either one can push it up too another level when pitching for a contender. They could probaly get both of them. I would stay away from Fulmer.. he is a twin of Sonny Gray.
The Angels have publicly said they're not moving any of their SPs....... Don't understand the rest........
Making the Machado move 2 weeks from the deadline, hurts Â
the Yankees & probably hurts the Orioles. I agree the Yankees #1 priority should be SP but if we get to the deadline w/o acquiring one/two SPs, we will probably go the lineup/RP route (I hope not!) If Machado were still available at the deadline, Yankees might up their offer to get him & so would other teams. Orioles are a shit show when it comes to trades & NO international signings. I feel sorry for Buck!
From BA:
1- J. Sheffield
2- E. Florial
3- J. Loaisiga
4- A. Abreu
5- A. Seigler
6- D. Tate
7- E. Pereira
8- D. Acevedo
9- M. Sauer
10- L. Medina
Top 2 as expected, but interesting shake-up in the bottom bunching. Love seeing E. Pereira in there, as I'm pretty high on him for such a young kid, as the next young toolsy, potential CF.
Not sure who falls where on the overall top 100 midseason update. If anyone has the NYY specific rankings, that'd be cool.
Rumor has it the Yanks have added Frazier to the deal... Â
And might have jumped back in with the medical issues of the LAD deal...
Haven't seen this either - where's it being reported?
Seems like from the Machado thread, it's a BS Twitter rumor.
Figured. Yeah, I don't see Cashman offering up Frazier at this point - I think we're going to focus on pitching. Tough market, though - going to be difficult to find a good match.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Rumor has it the Yanks have added Frazier to the deal... Â
And might have jumped back in with the medical issues of the LAD deal...
Haven't seen this either - where's it being reported?
Seems like from the Machado thread, it's a BS Twitter rumor.
Figured. Yeah, I don't see Cashman offering up Frazier at this point - I think we're going to focus on pitching. Tough market, though - going to be difficult to find a good match.
It doesn't appear there will be any top tier guys available this year so I wouldn't mind Hamels. The guy has been there and I could see him getting it together for a stretch run in the Bronx.
Apparently left last nights AAA game with concussion symptoms. Not good
I think it is time the Yanks had the "Bryce Harper" talk with Frazier. The Nats had concerns with Harper's all-out game as a young player, to the point that they pulled him aside and had a LONG discussion about how his style of play could short-circuit his career.
While they told him that playing aggressively was good, playing recklessly was not in his or the team's interests.
The Yanks need to get through to Frazier on this- and put him in touch with Joe Mauer to explain how the concussion concerns are not limited to C- once you become susceptible, it doesn't matter where you play.
Frazier was feeling light-headed before the game... Â
the dive made it worse. Could have been dehydration, could have been an illness or something like that. But yeah, he needs to calm it down a little bit. He's not Aaron Judge, where if he runs into the wall the wall apologizes.
not that Slade Heathcott was the same level of prospect Â
But his career was derailed largely because of his all out all the time playing style. Got injured almost every year.
Heathcott was a top 100 guy at one point, and he did have an .847 OPS with 17 SBs and plus defense for Tampa (followed by a great few weeks in the AFL). But yeah, that's a good comp.
The odds are it will be another loss and the Yanks will be 6 1/2 games behind. Then I believe they go to Tropicana Field again before the end of the month where they never win. The way things are going..it will be the Yankees shopping Severino and Gary Sanchez at the deadline for "DA FUTURE". Sevy is a real ace but Sanchez has proven to be the most over hyped player in Yankees history. I wish they would trade him NOW. Romine is a better catcher all around in my opinion. And they drafted two catchers in the first two rounds of the MLB draft including some kid name Siegler in round one who is a pitcher and a catcher and who is bi-dexterous ( throws with both arms) and is also a switch hitter indicating they have no long term vision of Sanchez remaining a Yankee. Siegler is already rated in the top 100 of MLB prospects based on his incredible ability that enabled him to lead all HS pitchers in the entire nation in both ERA and Strike outs pitching both lefty and righty, and hit well over 350 from both sides of the plate, hit more Home Runs than any other hitter at his level, and even though he has not played a single professional game of baseball. Last I heard he is for-going attending college and wants to sign with the Yanks who want him to be a catcher. Right now Romine is even a better hitter. Who knows if Sanchez will ever develop the work ethic and dedication of a successful player? Or even make the effort that Toress and Anduajar have done to learn how to speak ENGLISH. That was something that A-ROD told Sanchez that he should do if he wanted to be successful, and he has made no effort to do so. This impairs his ability to communicate with the Pitchers. Yes, I know Tanaka is Japanaese and all catchers would have a problem talking to him, but the Japenese pitchers have adapted to that obstacle that does not affect the ENTIRE PITCHING STAFF. Sanchez needs a change of scenery in order to WAKE UP.
There are actually a fair number of mediocre pitchers available... Â
Happ, Hamels, Straily, Fiers, Eovaldi, Harvey, Liriano, Duffy. Some have been awful of late, some much better. Harvey, for instance, probably has the most upside but has clear issues with reliability and otherwise. Is Hamels a 'postseason pitcher' because he did it years ago? Lots of questions.
RE: There are actually a fair number of mediocre pitchers available... Â
Happ, Hamels, Straily, Fiers, Eovaldi, Harvey, Liriano, Duffy. Some have been awful of late, some much better. Harvey, for instance, probably has the most upside but has clear issues with reliability and otherwise. Is Hamels a 'postseason pitcher' because he did it years ago? Lots of questions.
This is why I say go big or go home. The Yankees don't need another mid-rotation pitcher (at best), they need another ace. If the asking price for a Syndergaard or Bumgarner is too high, they may as well just stick with what they have. The only way I add Happ, Hamels, Harvey, etc., is if none of their top twenty prospects are included in the deal.
By the end of the month they will 10 1/2 games behind and close to dropping out of the wild card race. Include Gardner as another player to trade when Cashman is force to sell like he did in 2016. Cashman wants to acquire young players for a future that may never come without good pitching when he had the opportunity to get Verlander and Gerrit Cole but he was afraid to part with his crown jewels. If the Yanks had Verlander Cole and Sevy with Neil walker at second and Drury at third they would be a better team with a better chance to win a WS then they are now... and everyone, except Cashman, knows it.
By the end of the month they will 10 1/2 games behind and close to dropping out of the wild card race. Include Gardner as another player to trade when Cashman is force to sell like he did in 2016. Cashman wants to acquire young players for a future that may never come without good pitching when he had the opportunity to get Verlander and Gerrit Cole but he was afraid to part with his crown jewels. If the Yanks had Verlander Cole and Sevy with Neil walker at second and Drury at third they would be a better team with a better chance to win a WS then they are now... and everyone, except Cashman, knows it.
wait younwould be ok if cashman traded torres? seriously?
they’d have a better pitching stafff without question, but we’d just be replacing him in a year or two, minus Torres.
The Yankees aren’t interested in just 1 title. This isn’t the Cubs. They are trying to put together another dynasty otherwise we would have made a move like Verlander by now.
With and without Torres is night and day. It’s no secret that they started to get on their roll the minute he entered the lineup. And you notice that since he’s been out, they’ve also struggled? He is insanely important to this team and the proof is in the record. Trading 15 years of him for a couple of years of 35 year old Verlander is absolutely ridiculous. Though I’m not surprised given the poster lamenting about it
Andujar and Torres have been a big part of our success thus Â
far. None of the other veterans except maybe Hicks have played to expectations. Judge and Stanton have good numbers, but they are virtually helpless against anyone with a decent breaking ball.
What’s my point? Even our offense is still a work in progress. The whole team is a work in progress. Stick with what we have right now, and look within first. Did we plan on Torres and Andujar being such integral part of this team? No. Did Cash really need to trade two legitimate prospects for Drury? No.
Someone posted a mid-season top 10 prospect list and it was very underwhelming. Aside from Sheffield, most in the system have had to deal with injuries or simply haven’t played well. Our ML roster is young so we don’t need immediate help, but the notion that we can pawn off our #3 to #7 prospects and get someone good in return is simply not true.
Get Sheffield up, stand pat, and let’s see what this team is made of.
It's an impressive, very deep system, and there have been a number of breakout performances this year. But they're largely guys who have broken out from fringe big league to demonstrating 3-4 upside, or they're just too far away to factor. Impact prospects are too far away, near at hand prospects have a more modest ceiling.
During the fire sale of 2016.Now he is supposedly their top pitching prospect in AAA. The ace of the Scranton team a lefty and a AAA all-star, yet they do not call him up...instead we see the likes of Domingo German, Luis Cessa, and Johnny "Lasagna" the latter of whom was in AA. The excuse given is Sheffield needs more work to straighten out some things.... German does not need more work? Jonny does not need more work? Luis Cesa does not need any more work at AAA where he is lower on the pitching totem pole than Sheffield? Do the Yankees think that if they bring up Sheffield and he falls on his face that he will lose all value as a trading chip? Maybe? If the Yankees have no confidence in Sheffield why would anyone want to take him in a trade? I am quiet tired of hearing people blow kisses at Cashman when he is responsible for the wretched condition of this pitching staff. Pitching is 90% of this game, and you do not need a boat load of sluggers if you have good pitching. A group of sluggers without good pitching gets you nowhere. You are only a 500 team. Cashman decided to build the pitching staff from back to front instead of vice versa...now it’s biting him on the ass because the starting pitchers are so bad they cannot get to the 5th inning in order to hand the game to the bullpen that is being overworked. Now the other GMs across MLB know that Cashman is in bind and he will be unable to correct the problem without surrendering players that he wants to keep. I don’t fully understand his attitude since under the rule 5 draft you cannot keep them all anyway.
During the fire sale of 2016.Now he is supposedly their top pitching prospect in AAA. The ace of the Scranton team a lefty and a AAA all-star, yet they do not call him up...instead we see the likes of Domingo German, Luis Cessa, and Johnny "Lasagna" the latter of whom was in AA. The excuse given is Sheffield needs more work to straighten out some things.... German does not need more work? Jonny does not need more work? Luis Cesa does not need any more work at AAA where he is lower on the pitching totem pole than Sheffield? Do the Yankees think that if they bring up Sheffield and he falls on his face that he will lose all value as a trading chip? Maybe? If the Yankees have no confidence in Sheffield why would anyone want to take him in a trade? I am quiet tired of hearing people blow kisses at Cashman when he is responsible for the wretched condition of this pitching staff. Pitching is 90% of this game, and you do not need a boat load of sluggers if you have good pitching. A group of sluggers without good pitching gets you nowhere. You are only a 500 team. Cashman decided to build the pitching staff from back to front instead of vice versa...now it’s biting him on the ass because the starting pitchers are so bad they cannot get to the 5th inning in order to hand the game to the bullpen that is being overworked. Now the other GMs across MLB know that Cashman is in bind and he will be unable to correct the problem without surrendering players that he wants to keep. I don’t fully understand his attitude since under the rule 5 draft you cannot keep them all anyway.
Sheffield is not on the 40 man. The rest of them are. It's that simple.
@MLBPipeline
Florial flourishing in Florida 🌞
Past 7 games for the #Yankees' No. 1 prospect in his GCL rehab stint:
1-1, R, 2 BB, 3 SB
1-3, HR
2-4, R, 2 RBI
2-5, 2B, 2 RBI
3-4, 2B, HR
2-4, HR, SB
3-3, R, 2B, 3B - through 7 innings today
He's now 4-4 today. Now, a guy like Florial SHOULD be destroying the GCL, but at least we know he's completely recovered.
Time to get him back to Tampa.
what has that got to do with the Yankees?
Andujar is playing well enough to make the Machado trade a non-starter.
Bigtime.
The only way I want Machado is if he's replacing Didi
I'm looking 5 years down the road not just tomorrow
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Its wild card time again and if they have to go to Seattle to face Paxton.. it will be ONE AND DONE..
Why would the Yanks go to Seattle for the Wild Card?
And why would he pick Paxton over Sevy? Because if there's a one and done scenario, nobody's getting the ball but Sevy.
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he's not even that smart of a fucknut:
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Its wild card time again and if they have to go to Seattle to face Paxton.. it will be ONE AND DONE..
Why would the Yanks go to Seattle for the Wild Card?
And why would he pick Paxton over Sevy? Because if there's a one and done scenario, nobody's getting the ball but Sevy.
Id give CC a shot depending on the matchups
He probably has a ton of value on the trade market and he's also the most easily replaceable top prospect that we have. I dont see him ever fulfilling his potential with his lack of plate discipline and lack of overall awareness. The other day the Yankees had Bauer almost out of the game in the 6th, Bird gets out in 2 pitches and he goes up there swinging away at garbage on the first pitch. Mind numbing.
Manny Machado's OBP his first three years were .294, .314, .324. This year, his 7th in the majors, is his first year with a high OBP.
Wut
The Angels have publicly said they're not moving any of their SPs....... Don't understand the rest........
1- J. Sheffield
2- E. Florial
3- J. Loaisiga
4- A. Abreu
5- A. Seigler
6- D. Tate
7- E. Pereira
8- D. Acevedo
9- M. Sauer
10- L. Medina
Top 2 as expected, but interesting shake-up in the bottom bunching. Love seeing E. Pereira in there, as I'm pretty high on him for such a young kid, as the next young toolsy, potential CF.
Not sure who falls where on the overall top 100 midseason update. If anyone has the NYY specific rankings, that'd be cool.
Who's reporting the rumor? Haven't seen it yet.
Haven't seen this either - where's it being reported?
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And might have jumped back in with the medical issues of the LAD deal...
Haven't seen this either - where's it being reported?
Seems like from the Machado thread, it's a BS Twitter rumor.
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And might have jumped back in with the medical issues of the LAD deal...
Haven't seen this either - where's it being reported?
Seems like from the Machado thread, it's a BS Twitter rumor.
Figured. Yeah, I don't see Cashman offering up Frazier at this point - I think we're going to focus on pitching. Tough market, though - going to be difficult to find a good match.
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In comment 14015717 LarmerTJR said:
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And might have jumped back in with the medical issues of the LAD deal...
Haven't seen this either - where's it being reported?
Seems like from the Machado thread, it's a BS Twitter rumor.
Figured. Yeah, I don't see Cashman offering up Frazier at this point - I think we're going to focus on pitching. Tough market, though - going to be difficult to find a good match.
It doesn't appear there will be any top tier guys available this year so I wouldn't mind Hamels. The guy has been there and I could see him getting it together for a stretch run in the Bronx.
I think it is time the Yanks had the "Bryce Harper" talk with Frazier. The Nats had concerns with Harper's all-out game as a young player, to the point that they pulled him aside and had a LONG discussion about how his style of play could short-circuit his career.
While they told him that playing aggressively was good, playing recklessly was not in his or the team's interests.
The Yanks need to get through to Frazier on this- and put him in touch with Joe Mauer to explain how the concussion concerns are not limited to C- once you become susceptible, it doesn't matter where you play.
Heathcott was a top 100 guy at one point, and he did have an .847 OPS with 17 SBs and plus defense for Tampa (followed by a great few weeks in the AFL). But yeah, that's a good comp.
wait younwould be ok if cashman traded torres? seriously?
trading torres for verlander would have been a horrendous trade at the time...
verlander was awful when astros traded for him...
and you wouod trade a couple of years for verlander over 15 years of torres?
Jesus Christ.
The Yankees aren’t interested in just 1 title. This isn’t the Cubs. They are trying to put together another dynasty otherwise we would have made a move like Verlander by now.
Time to buy in and move on.
What’s my point? Even our offense is still a work in progress. The whole team is a work in progress. Stick with what we have right now, and look within first. Did we plan on Torres and Andujar being such integral part of this team? No. Did Cash really need to trade two legitimate prospects for Drury? No.
Someone posted a mid-season top 10 prospect list and it was very underwhelming. Aside from Sheffield, most in the system have had to deal with injuries or simply haven’t played well. Our ML roster is young so we don’t need immediate help, but the notion that we can pawn off our #3 to #7 prospects and get someone good in return is simply not true.
Get Sheffield up, stand pat, and let’s see what this team is made of.
Sheffield is not on the 40 man. The rest of them are. It's that simple.
I think you need to work on your delay of gratification a bit. Think beyond this season to the next 5 or so.
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on the 40 man roster.. kick German off.
I think you need to work on your delay of gratification a bit. Think beyond this season to the next 5 or so.
IMO, it's probably less about immediate gratification and more about having absolutely no idea how MLB roster rules work.
Conversation derailed, he accomplished his goal.
Time to turn up the heat on them again and reel off a nice winning streak of our own.
Or the 1990s Braves, who had one of the greatest rotation in league history yet won only once.
Time to turn up the heat on them again and reel off a nice winning streak of our own.
People forget that the great 1961 Yankees were in a nip'ntuck battle with the Tigers the whole season.
Till we swept the 5 game Labour Day series.
I was at the Friday night opener. Pure magic.