I would have taken the deal, but he must think he can get more. Time will tell.
Did you see the post above yours? If that information is correct, why would he sign that deal? The only thing that matters is the guaranteed money. So let’s say he injured himself seriously this season now, he’s still getting $14.5 million. If he signed the extension and injures himself seriously this year, he’d have gotten $10 Million. That’s it. So he can play this season and make $14.5 Million and if he comes out healthy, sign a longer term deal next off season. Seems like a no brained to reject that offer to me. Again, the only thing that matters is the guaranteed money. What benefit is there for him to sign an extension that offers less guaranteed money than what he’s going to make on the tag?
I agree. There is a big difference between 30 million Â
I would have taken the deal, but he must think he can get more. Time will tell.
Did you see the post above yours? If that information is correct, why would he sign that deal? The only thing that matters is the guaranteed money. So let’s say he injured himself seriously this season now, he’s still getting $14.5 million. If he signed the extension and injures himself seriously this year, he’d have gotten $10 Million. That’s it. So he can play this season and make $14.5 Million and if he comes out healthy, sign a longer term deal next off season. Seems like a no brained to reject that offer to me. Again, the only thing that matters is the guaranteed money. What benefit is there for him to sign an extension that offers less guaranteed money than what he’s going to make on the tag?
If the above is correct it’s a brutal offer. I don’t know how anyone can say they’d take that. Forget not even being in the situation and not really knowing what you’d do in his shoes, simple math says you don’t even bother returning that call.
and he is getting bad advice from someone who doesn't know what he is doing. I am betting his agent is one of his childhood friends who thinks he knows better ...
RE: Assuming he doesn’t get injured I don’t think that’s true Â
again, he isn’t just a running back. That’s the crux of this entire debate and his negotiation. He Pitt offer was “cheap” compared to what he’d get in FA. So if he takes the $14 million now and gets another $25 million guaranteed (conservatively) in his next contract, he wins and wins big. That’s a $10 million net positive factoring in that I even lowered the Pitt guaranteed offer by $5 million.
He’s going to get paid next year.
He could have gotten paid this year. How much more money does he think he is going to get? He is going to be 27 years old the next time they talk about this .... and God forbid he gets hurt.
and he is getting bad advice from someone who doesn't know what he is doing. I am betting his agent is one of his childhood friends who thinks he knows better ...
You should really read through the thread before posting. You could learn something
RE: RE: Assuming he doesn’t get injured I don’t think that’s true Â
again, he isn’t just a running back. That’s the crux of this entire debate and his negotiation. He Pitt offer was “cheap” compared to what he’d get in FA. So if he takes the $14 million now and gets another $25 million guaranteed (conservatively) in his next contract, he wins and wins big. That’s a $10 million net positive factoring in that I even lowered the Pitt guaranteed offer by $5 million.
He’s going to get paid next year.
He could have gotten paid this year. How much more money does he think he is going to get? He is going to be 27 years old the next time they talk about this .... and God forbid he gets hurt.
I’m not sure you understand the scenario. Being tagged twice gives him a shitload of guaranteed money this year and keeps him in play for yet another guaranteed payday in 12 months or less. All said and done he can net around $40mm guaranteed over the next 12 months. So why take Pitts shitty offer?
He’s not getting much more than that next year if they let him walk. Unless maybe he goes to the Browns whomhave like 80 million to spend.
It’s been said over and over. He’s got a ton of tread on those tires. Good luck to him but he and his agent are delusional. He’s also going to skip training camp. So he won’t be ready for the start of the season. Hurts his stats imo. He will be rusty just like he was at the beginning of last year.
I get him not wanting to get injured but he better watch out. Pitt has some younger backs who May start producing. That happens he’s going to get less touches. Teams are not going to shell out 45 million guaarantess for 27 year old RBs will all those touches.
the next CBA negotiations will be critical for the players....
There are many issues, one thing will be rookie contracts.....they will fight for the end of 4th and 5th year options.....
The rookies got screwed in the last CBA by the veteran mindset of the established players.....this new generation of players will remember this, and try to make the changes....
Here is the actual CBA third franchise tag calculation Â
He will receive the highest of the following:
(i) the average of the five largest 2018 Salaries for quarterbacks;
(ii) 120% of the average of the five largest 2018 Salaries for kickers; or
(iii) 144% of the player’s own 2018 Salary.
So the $20 Million number is a floor and may be higher based on how many QBs sign new deals this year.
I think the young man just made a horrendous bet on himself. He won't get tagged again and he may not get $30 million guaranteed at age 27.
He's taking 15M guaranteed right now and will insure himself against injury for what he believes his real worth in guaranteed dollars is. I'd estimate that's an additional 25M.
He's not an idiot or leaving anything on the table.
When he signs a deal with 25M guaranteed next off-season let's see how stupid he is.
RE: Here is the actual CBA third franchise tag calculation Â
He will receive the highest of the following:
(i) the average of the five largest 2018 Salaries for quarterbacks;
(ii) 120% of the average of the five largest 2018 Salaries for kickers; or
(iii) 144% of the player’s own 2018 Salary.
So the $20 Million number is a floor and may be higher based on how many QBs sign new deals this year.
I think the young man just made a horrendous bet on himself. He won't get tagged again and he may not get $30 million guaranteed at age 27.
But the contract he was offered had less guaranteed than he’s getting his season, soooooo......
You need to wait to hear the actual guarantees in the deal.
The Steelers leaked the contract offer to make it appear that they offered Bell a great deal but he was too greedy. It is now reported that the 5 year 70 million dollar contract had only $10 million guaranteed. Bell is guaranteed $14.5 million by signing the franchise tag.
Did you see the post above yours? If that information is correct, why would he sign that deal? The only thing that matters is the guaranteed money. So let’s say he injured himself seriously this season now, he’s still getting $14.5 million. If he signed the extension and injures himself seriously this year, he’d have gotten $10 Million. That’s it. So he can play this season and make $14.5 Million and if he comes out healthy, sign a longer term deal next off season. Seems like a no brained to reject that offer to me. Again, the only thing that matters is the guaranteed money. What benefit is there for him to sign an extension that offers less guaranteed money than what he’s going to make on the tag?
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I would have taken the deal, but he must think he can get more. Time will tell.
Did you see the post above yours? If that information is correct, why would he sign that deal? The only thing that matters is the guaranteed money. So let’s say he injured himself seriously this season now, he’s still getting $14.5 million. If he signed the extension and injures himself seriously this year, he’d have gotten $10 Million. That’s it. So he can play this season and make $14.5 Million and if he comes out healthy, sign a longer term deal next off season. Seems like a no brained to reject that offer to me. Again, the only thing that matters is the guaranteed money. What benefit is there for him to sign an extension that offers less guaranteed money than what he’s going to make on the tag?
If the above is correct it’s a brutal offer. I don’t know how anyone can say they’d take that. Forget not even being in the situation and not really knowing what you’d do in his shoes, simple math says you don’t even bother returning that call.
He’s going to get paid next year.
He could have gotten paid this year. How much more money does he think he is going to get? He is going to be 27 years old the next time they talk about this .... and God forbid he gets hurt.
You should really read through the thread before posting. You could learn something
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again, he isn’t just a running back. That’s the crux of this entire debate and his negotiation. He Pitt offer was “cheap” compared to what he’d get in FA. So if he takes the $14 million now and gets another $25 million guaranteed (conservatively) in his next contract, he wins and wins big. That’s a $10 million net positive factoring in that I even lowered the Pitt guaranteed offer by $5 million.
He’s going to get paid next year.
He could have gotten paid this year. How much more money does he think he is going to get? He is going to be 27 years old the next time they talk about this .... and God forbid he gets hurt.
I’m not sure you understand the scenario. Being tagged twice gives him a shitload of guaranteed money this year and keeps him in play for yet another guaranteed payday in 12 months or less. All said and done he can net around $40mm guaranteed over the next 12 months. So why take Pitts shitty offer?
It’s been said over and over. He’s got a ton of tread on those tires. Good luck to him but he and his agent are delusional. He’s also going to skip training camp. So he won’t be ready for the start of the season. Hurts his stats imo. He will be rusty just like he was at the beginning of last year.
I get him not wanting to get injured but he better watch out. Pitt has some younger backs who May start producing. That happens he’s going to get less touches. Teams are not going to shell out 45 million guaarantess for 27 year old RBs will all those touches.
There are many issues, one thing will be rookie contracts.....they will fight for the end of 4th and 5th year options.....
The rookies got screwed in the last CBA by the veteran mindset of the established players.....this new generation of players will remember this, and try to make the changes....
(i) the average of the five largest 2018 Salaries for quarterbacks;
(ii) 120% of the average of the five largest 2018 Salaries for kickers; or
(iii) 144% of the player’s own 2018 Salary.
So the $20 Million number is a floor and may be higher based on how many QBs sign new deals this year.
I think the young man just made a horrendous bet on himself. He won't get tagged again and he may not get $30 million guaranteed at age 27.
He's not an idiot or leaving anything on the table.
When he signs a deal with 25M guaranteed next off-season let's see how stupid he is.
(i) the average of the five largest 2018 Salaries for quarterbacks;
(ii) 120% of the average of the five largest 2018 Salaries for kickers; or
(iii) 144% of the player’s own 2018 Salary.
So the $20 Million number is a floor and may be higher based on how many QBs sign new deals this year.
I think the young man just made a horrendous bet on himself. He won't get tagged again and he may not get $30 million guaranteed at age 27.
But the contract he was offered had less guaranteed than he’s getting his season, soooooo......
The Steelers leaked the contract offer to make it appear that they offered Bell a great deal but he was too greedy. It is now reported that the 5 year 70 million dollar contract had only $10 million guaranteed. Bell is guaranteed $14.5 million by signing the franchise tag.