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TheManUpstairs : 7/17/2018 10:06 am
Doesn't even matter what set I'm talking about; I saw these today.

Beckham as the #4 WR (Shepherd at 43).

Barkley as #6 RB.

Engram as #4 TE.

And Eli as . . . . #24 QB. Man, you would think that if you've got those highly-rated weapons, SOMEBODY'S going to be getting them the ball to justify those ratings.
Why would Barkley at #6 and Engram at #4 make you laugh???  
Greg from LI : 7/17/2018 10:18 am : link
Engram had a nice season but is hardly a proven performer, and Barkley hasn't taken one damned snap in the NFL yet.
nevermind.....I missed the point  
Greg from LI : 7/17/2018 10:18 am : link
duh
RE: nevermind.....I missed the point  
TheManUpstairs : 7/17/2018 10:26 am : link
In comment 14014740 Greg from LI said:
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duh


No harm. I actually looked at QB last on these ratings, and it made me laugh.
Did they show you the  
pjcas18 : 7/17/2018 10:31 am : link
list of the 23 QB's ahead of him.

Hate to say it, but I doubt anyone in a 12-team fantasy football league drafts Eli to be their starting QB, so then basically you have 12 backups and Eli is one of them.

If he's 18 or 24 it doesn't make much difference to me.

If you like Eli for your fantasy football team you should be happy with the negative rankings, should mean you could get him later in the draft.

I'm pissed everyone is rating Barkley so high.

He figures to go #1 overall in my keeper league and I'm trying to work out a trade to move up and get him. I kind of hoped he'd be lower ranked.
RE: Did they show you the  
robbieballs2003 : 7/17/2018 10:43 am : link
In comment 14014752 pjcas18 said:
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list of the 23 QB's ahead of him.

Hate to say it, but I doubt anyone in a 12-team fantasy football league drafts Eli to be their starting QB, so then basically you have 12 backups and Eli is one of them.

If he's 18 or 24 it doesn't make much difference to me.

If you like Eli for your fantasy football team you should be happy with the negative rankings, should mean you could get him later in the draft.

I'm pissed everyone is rating Barkley so high.

He figures to go #1 overall in my keeper league and I'm trying to work out a trade to move up and get him. I kind of hoped he'd be lower ranked.


I am in a keeper league (one of a ton) and in this league we keep between 2 and 4 players. Every team has to keep 2. The first 2 rounds of the draft are for keepers. The 3rd and 4th rounds are where there is some deciding. If you keep a third player then that is your third round pick. If you keep a 4th player then that is your 4th round pick. The fifth round starts the draft where everybody has their pick.

I had a rough year with injuries last year but my two keepers are Gurley and DJ. I got Gurley in the draft last year. I kept two players and Gurley wasn't kept. In fairness, the guy who didn't keep him had a stacked team. I still would have kept him but almost everybody was down on Gurley entering last year. I didn't give a shit and drafted him.

I also have the first pick in the draft so I am only keeping 2 players so I can get the first pick of players not kept. I am taking Barkley regardless of who is not kept this year. Having Gurley, DJ, and Barkley is going to be fun. And, yes, we can start 3 RBs. Our starting lineups are as follows:

QB
RB
WR
WR
TE
RB/WR/TE
RB/WR/TE
K
D

It is a 12 team PPR league.
Great Point  
ZogZerg : 7/17/2018 10:51 am : link
Maybe they don't think any other receiver or RB on the roster will catch a pass;)
In my keeper league  
pjcas18 : 7/17/2018 10:53 am : link
I had so many options and we can only keep 2 so I didn't keep Gurley.

I could have kept Gurley for a 2nd round pick or Michael Thomas for a 10th and Jordan Howard for an 8th.

So I kept Thomas and Howard. I also could have kept Tyreek Hill in the 8th over one of Thomas or Howard.

I don't regret it, I lost in the finals, but many my team was stacked.


It sort of evened out though, I won my other league on the backs of AB and Gurley who were my 1st and 2nd round picks.
RE: Did they show you the  
TheManUpstairs : 7/17/2018 10:55 am : link
In comment 14014752 pjcas18 said:
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list of the 23 QB's ahead of him.

Hate to say it, but I doubt anyone in a 12-team fantasy football league drafts Eli to be their starting QB, so then basically you have 12 backups and Eli is one of them.

If he's 18 or 24 it doesn't make much difference to me.

If you like Eli for your fantasy football team you should be happy with the negative rankings, should mean you could get him later in the draft.

I'm pissed everyone is rating Barkley so high.

He figures to go #1 overall in my keeper league and I'm trying to work out a trade to move up and get him. I kind of hoped he'd be lower ranked.


Oh, Eli's not a regular starter in any normal-sized league, agreed. But the guy just ahead of him was Trubisky. C'mon.
Barkley...  
BamaBlue : 7/17/2018 10:57 am : link
is MUCH more valuable in a PPR league. If it's just rushing yards, Barkley isn't going to be the guy you target.
RE: RE: Did they show you the  
robbieballs2003 : 7/17/2018 10:58 am : link
In comment 14014782 TheManUpstairs said:
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In comment 14014752 pjcas18 said:


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list of the 23 QB's ahead of him.

Hate to say it, but I doubt anyone in a 12-team fantasy football league drafts Eli to be their starting QB, so then basically you have 12 backups and Eli is one of them.

If he's 18 or 24 it doesn't make much difference to me.

If you like Eli for your fantasy football team you should be happy with the negative rankings, should mean you could get him later in the draft.

I'm pissed everyone is rating Barkley so high.

He figures to go #1 overall in my keeper league and I'm trying to work out a trade to move up and get him. I kind of hoped he'd be lower ranked.



Oh, Eli's not a regular starter in any normal-sized league, agreed. But the guy just ahead of him was Trubisky. C'mon.


Trubisky is in a great situation. He's in a great offense and has a ton of weapons now. He is probaby where he should be ranked with upside. Eli hasn't been fantasy relevant in awhile. Until we see otherwise he is probably where he should be as well.
RE: Did they show you the  
Jim in Tampa : 7/17/2018 11:03 am : link
In comment 14014752 pjcas18 said:
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I'm pissed everyone is rating Barkley so high.

He figures to go #1 overall in my keeper league and I'm trying to work out a trade to move up and get him. I kind of hoped he'd be lower ranked.


Don't trade UP, trade DOWN!!!

- The "BBI Trade Down Every Year in Every Draft" Club
Eli will be a top 10 FF QB this year  
djm : 7/17/2018 11:23 am : link
And he has was in 2014 and 2015. He was probably just outside the top 10 in 2016 and then of course the bottom fell out last year.
RE: Eli will be a top 10 FF QB this year  
leatherneck570 : 7/17/2018 11:31 am : link
In comment 14014812 djm said:
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And he has was in 2014 and 2015. He was probably just outside the top 10 in 2016 and then of course the bottom fell out last year.


no.
RE: Eli will be a top 10 FF QB this year  
robbieballs2003 : 7/17/2018 11:32 am : link
In comment 14014812 djm said:
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And he has was in 2014 and 2015. He was probably just outside the top 10 in 2016 and then of course the bottom fell out last year.


Doug, in our league you are right about 2014 (9th) and 2015 (10th). In 2016 he was 21st and in 2017 he was 23rd.

I agree we all expect him to be much improved with this offense but we are also Giants fans. I have no issue with him being ranked as a low QB2 right now. If this is an investment, which it really is, the price is low and I'd definitely invest because of the upside. But for what has happened the last two years and with the uncertainty surrounding our OL I don't have an issue with where he is ranked. In terms of the OL, I agree that it is improved but until we see it come together everybody should still have a wait and see approach especially if Flowers is still staring on this OL.
Eli will be a very streamable QB2  
leatherneck570 : 7/17/2018 11:36 am : link
no more, no less.
I look at it a different way  
leatherneck570 : 7/17/2018 11:42 am : link
Not all those guys are going to have monster games week in and week out. sure, by the end of the season, they may finish towards the top of the respective positions, but Eli won't be this weekly fantasy stud.
I may consider grabbing Eli as my QB2  
ZogZerg : 7/17/2018 11:55 am : link
some point late in the draft.

We'll see how they look in pre-season, whether Odell plays, injuries, etc.
O-Line is key here for Eli's fantasy football projection  
NYG27 : 7/17/2018 12:09 pm : link
If the improved O-line give Eli some time in the pocket, I can't see him not finishing in the Top 10 QBs like he did in 2014 and 2015. Especially with all the skill position weapons he has.

Let someone else draft Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady in the 3rd/4th rounds. Value wise, I'd rather gamble on a Matt Stafford in the 9th/10th round and on Eli in the 12th/13th round.
Fantasy football  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 7/17/2018 3:24 pm : link
is ruining watching football for those of us that are actually fans of a team rather than just fans of money.

If I have to watch one more game with a "Giants fan" saying "Yeah, I hope Zeke scores 3 TDs but the Giants still win the game" I'm gonna puke.

To hell with fantasy ratings.
RE: Fantasy football  
bradshaw44 : 7/17/2018 3:36 pm : link
In comment 14015006 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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is ruining watching football for those of us that are actually fans of a team rather than just fans of money.

If I have to watch one more game with a "Giants fan" saying "Yeah, I hope Zeke scores 3 TDs but the Giants still win the game" I'm gonna puke.

To hell with fantasy ratings.


I bench players going against the Giants when I play fantasy. If I had Zeke he would sit two games per season...etc
In my 2 QB league  
dep026 : 7/17/2018 4:15 pm : link
I am hoping he drops so I can snag him as my 2nd QB. I am keeping mahommes (18th round) and Tannehill (25th round).

With Eli and those 2.... I want to stack my other positions.
RE: RE: Fantasy football  
leatherneck570 : 7/17/2018 4:23 pm : link
In comment 14015012 bradshaw44 said:
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is ruining watching football for those of us that are actually fans of a team rather than just fans of money.

If I have to watch one more game with a "Giants fan" saying "Yeah, I hope Zeke scores 3 TDs but the Giants still win the game" I'm gonna puke.

To hell with fantasy ratings.



I bench players going against the Giants when I play fantasy. If I had Zeke he would sit two games per season...etc



Not me, I'm waaaay to competitive for that. Sitting a player that you have no control over because he's playing your favorite team is silly imo.
RE: RE: Fantasy football  
arcarsenal : 7/17/2018 4:40 pm : link
In comment 14015012 bradshaw44 said:
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is ruining watching football for those of us that are actually fans of a team rather than just fans of money.

If I have to watch one more game with a "Giants fan" saying "Yeah, I hope Zeke scores 3 TDs but the Giants still win the game" I'm gonna puke.

To hell with fantasy ratings.



I bench players going against the Giants when I play fantasy. If I had Zeke he would sit two games per season...etc


I hope these aren't money leagues.

I never really understood this. It's not like putting the player in your lineup means you have to wear their jersey or root for them at the bar. It's just a set it and forget it thing for me. Benching players because they're playing the Giants doesn't change anything about how they'll perform against the Giants.

Of course, the Giants always come before fantasy. That part goes without saying.
RE: RE: RE: Fantasy football  
bradshaw44 : 7/17/2018 4:50 pm : link
In comment 14015035 arcarsenal said:
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is ruining watching football for those of us that are actually fans of a team rather than just fans of money.

If I have to watch one more game with a "Giants fan" saying "Yeah, I hope Zeke scores 3 TDs but the Giants still win the game" I'm gonna puke.

To hell with fantasy ratings.



I bench players going against the Giants when I play fantasy. If I had Zeke he would sit two games per season...etc



I hope these aren't money leagues.

I never really understood this. It's not like putting the player in your lineup means you have to wear their jersey or root for them at the bar. It's just a set it and forget it thing for me. Benching players because they're playing the Giants doesn't change anything about how they'll perform against the Giants.

Of course, the Giants always come before fantasy. That part goes without saying.



They are money leagues. I don't like to watch the Giants and think "oh well at least they got crushed by the guy on my team." I don't care that much because the money isn't anything to get excited about. Only time I make the consideration is the playoffs.
RE: In my 2 QB league  
robbieballs2003 : 7/17/2018 5:04 pm : link
In comment 14015021 dep026 said:
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I am hoping he drops so I can snag him as my 2nd QB. I am keeping mahommes (18th round) and Tannehill (25th round).

With Eli and those 2.... I want to stack my other positions.


Dep, that sounds like the kiss of death for your team before the season even started. Mahomes has nice upside but in a two QB league. I would hope to have him as my number three. QBs are gold in those leagues. I hate 2 QB leagues. I am also not a big Tannehill fan either.
RE: RE: In my 2 QB league  
dep026 : 7/17/2018 6:37 pm : link
In comment 14015054 robbieballs2003 said:
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I am hoping he drops so I can snag him as my 2nd QB. I am keeping mahommes (18th round) and Tannehill (25th round).

With Eli and those 2.... I want to stack my other positions.



Dep, that sounds like the kiss of death for your team before the season even started. Mahomes has nice upside but in a two QB league. I would hope to have him as my number three. QBs are gold in those leagues. I hate 2 QB leagues. I am also not a big Tannehill fan either.


It’s an IDP league so you need depth EVERYWHERE. Mahommes and Tanny provide huge value at their placement. In the first 5 rounds, 18-20 QBs will go. So if everyone goes that route... I can be stacked everywhere.
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robbieballs2003 : 7/17/2018 6:53 pm : link
In comment 14015081 dep026 said:
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I am hoping he drops so I can snag him as my 2nd QB. I am keeping mahommes (18th round) and Tannehill (25th round).

With Eli and those 2.... I want to stack my other positions.



Dep, that sounds like the kiss of death for your team before the season even started. Mahomes has nice upside but in a two QB league. I would hope to have him as my number three. QBs are gold in those leagues. I hate 2 QB leagues. I am also not a big Tannehill fan either.



It’s an IDP league so you need depth EVERYWHERE. Mahommes and Tanny provide huge value at their placement. In the first 5 rounds, 18-20 QBs will go. So if everyone goes that route... I can be stacked everywhere.


I get your philosophy but does that work? I do like IDPs but that shouldn't change the fact that I have never seen a 2 QB league where a team with not top tier QBs wins.
Last years winner  
dep026 : 7/17/2018 8:59 pm : link
Wilson, Keenum, Mariotta.

I had Ben and brees and came in last haha.

Like anything else, it’s a crapshoot. I am very high in mahommes and Eli. Tanny value in last round is ridiculous. Even if he is subpar... he would still be a 11-12 round selection.
Eli's not bad fantasy wise  
JOrthman : 7/18/2018 3:58 pm : link
I've had him on my keeper league team the last few years. He isn't Peyton, Brady or Brees FF wise, but after the top five he is in the mix. If you don't have one of the top five or so quarterbacks the next 15-20 aren't that far apart. Eli was bad last year FF wise, but most years he is in the mix with the rest. He can have a solid 15-20 point game and then blow up the next week.
RE: RE: Fantasy football  
JOrthman : 7/18/2018 4:02 pm : link
In comment 14015012 bradshaw44 said:
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is ruining watching football for those of us that are actually fans of a team rather than just fans of money.

If I have to watch one more game with a "Giants fan" saying "Yeah, I hope Zeke scores 3 TDs but the Giants still win the game" I'm gonna puke.

To hell with fantasy ratings.



I bench players going against the Giants when I play fantasy. If I had Zeke he would sit two games per season...etc


I can't do that. No matter how much it pains me, I play whoever is supposed to have the best game.
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