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Professor Falken : 7/17/2018 6:25 pm
Vesey re-signed. Two years, $2.275M AAV (2.2/2.35).

Two new assistant coaches hired in addition to Ruff. David Oliver joins the Rangers after spending the past 11 seasons with the Colorado Avalanche organization. Greg Brown joins the Rangers after spending the past 14 seasons at Boston College.
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Lindy Ruff is a Stud  
RobCrossRiver56 : 7/17/2018 6:41 pm : link
A hell of a player and a great coach. He's really going to help the young Rangers develop

This is good stuff..
I think Vesey needs to step up  
Gman11 : 7/17/2018 7:15 pm : link
his game. He just might benefit from the new coach, but he needs to score more often.
If you want to see what type of guy Lindy Ruff is  
Vanzetti : 7/17/2018 9:22 pm : link
watch this clip
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While it is disappointing to have not won one with  
chopperhatch : 7/17/2018 10:19 pm : link
Hank, I am kinda excited for the youth movement. Lots of brand gnewbs got a little run last year and love the idea of watching what we have in Chytil, Namestnikov and other youngsters like Skjei, Zibanejad and Buchnevich.

Could be fun to watch the development instead of pissing up a rope like the last two years.
RE: Lindy Ruff is a Stud  
Anakim : 7/17/2018 10:53 pm : link
In comment 14015082 RobCrossRiver56 said:
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A hell of a player and a great coach. He's really going to help the young Rangers develop

This is good stuff..


Sarcasm?
RE: RE: Lindy Ruff is a Stud  
chopperhatch : 7/17/2018 11:11 pm : link
In comment 14015168 Anakim said:
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In comment 14015082 RobCrossRiver56 said:


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A hell of a player and a great coach. He's really going to help the young Rangers develop

This is good stuff..



Sarcasm?


Yea I was thrown by that too. I had to do a quick search to confirm that I didnt miss Quinn getting canned and Ruff promoted to HC.
Makes sense to have an ex NHL coach on the bench  
arniefez : 7/17/2018 11:17 pm : link
with a college coach making the transition to the NHL. The Rangers must trust Ruff.
I like the Vesey deal  
gmen9892 : 7/18/2018 9:38 am : link
Basically the reason you use a bridge deal is for this type of situation. You can tell he has talent, he is young, and there SHOULD be another level he can reach. If he doesnt reach it, not a big financial commitment. If he does, then you come back in 2020 for a new deal when this team should be fielding a contending team.

Also, like what I hear about the coaches. All good things. We are just going to have to sit through another bumpy season that hopefully churns out an exciting team that ends up with another Top 10 pick (preferably Top 5).
Lose  
Burt64 : 7/18/2018 10:01 am : link
for Hughes i think will be the motto this year....
I'd like to see a many of the young guys as possible  
Jay in Toronto : 7/18/2018 10:04 am : link
To get a chance under the new coaching regime.
So glad I did not renew my season tickets  
MetsAreBack : 7/18/2018 11:14 am : link
its going to be a loooong couple of years at MSG and tickets are going to be *dirt cheap* on the secondary market all year.
I like Vesee...  
Torrag : 7/18/2018 6:14 pm : link
...he's tougher than AV's approach let us see imo. Borderline misused in AV's 'scheme' to use a football analogy. Unfortunately who to use, and how to optimally allign them was Vigneault's biggest failure as a coach.
Vesey can score 30 goals  
Vanzetti : 7/18/2018 10:42 pm : link
absolutely no doubt in my mind about

great bridge deal

RE: Vesey can score 30 goals  
Greg from LI : 7/19/2018 6:23 am : link
In comment 14015905 Vanzetti said:
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absolutely no doubt in my mind about

great bridge deal


You're out of your mind
RE: I like Vesee...  
Burt64 : 7/19/2018 7:56 am : link
In comment 14015726 Torrag said:
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...he's tougher than AV's approach let us see imo. Borderline misused in AV's 'scheme' to use a football analogy. Unfortunately who to use, and how to optimally allign them was Vigneault's biggest failure as a coach.


I think AV's scheme was fine and actually a really good system. I think he covered up a lot of ills and made the Rangers appear better than they were. His shortcomings were he had no recourse to fix his defense when tthings went bad. His biggest failure was and is that he simply can't develop young talent. Vets had a long leash and rookies were quick to get the hook. We saw it in Vancouver and again in New York.

IMO, this year is going to be fun finally. gone are the expectations and we are going to lose and lose a lot. On the flip side, it will be to watch these kids develop. Also, and just my guess, Hank put up a good face last year saying he wants to be in New York for his career. At the deadline this year, if the Rangers struggle as mush as i think they will, i could see his frustration getting the best of him and ok a trade to a contender.

It is not something i want to see but it would be the best move for the rebuilding rangers. they can eat a ton of his salary in exchange for some prime prospects.

As for Vesey, he's a bottom 6 guy and unless he flips a switch, prob for the rest of his career.
RE: RE: I like Vesee...  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 7/19/2018 8:57 am : link
In comment 14015977 Burt64 said:
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In comment 14015726 Torrag said:


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...he's tougher than AV's approach let us see imo. Borderline misused in AV's 'scheme' to use a football analogy. Unfortunately who to use, and how to optimally allign them was Vigneault's biggest failure as a coach.



I think AV's scheme was fine and actually a really good system. I think he covered up a lot of ills and made the Rangers appear better than they were. His shortcomings were he had no recourse to fix his defense when tthings went bad. His biggest failure was and is that he simply can't develop young talent. Vets had a long leash and rookies were quick to get the hook. We saw it in Vancouver and again in New York.

IMO, this year is going to be fun finally. gone are the expectations and we are going to lose and lose a lot. On the flip side, it will be to watch these kids develop. Also, and just my guess, Hank put up a good face last year saying he wants to be in New York for his career. At the deadline this year, if the Rangers struggle as mush as i think they will, i could see his frustration getting the best of him and ok a trade to a contender.

It is not something i want to see but it would be the best move for the rebuilding rangers. they can eat a ton of his salary in exchange for some prime prospects.

As for Vesey, he's a bottom 6 guy and unless he flips a switch, prob for the rest of his career.


I agree with you that AV's system was a really great change of pace from Tort's turtle/block shots at any cost mentality, and in the early going, with the roster we had, it was great. My problem was, that he never adapted to what the players became. Yes, he couldn't do anything about the DG/Staal/Smith contracts, but they were different players in the later tenure. We kept the same philosophy of flying out of the zone, yet the pieces weren't capable of doing that effectively, and we didn't try anything different schematically. He had a great run, no doubt, some of the more fun hockey we've seen in a while, but I'm excited for a change and the youth movement.

As for Vesey, I love the deal. He's reached 16 and 17 goals in his first 2 years, with about 14 minutes of ice time, and no real PP time. He gets to the dirty areas, and can cause some havoc at the net. At this money, it's a no brainer to see how he fits in the new system.
I'm surprised they havent traded for a bad contract yet  
MetsAreBack : 7/19/2018 4:09 pm : link
with the other team sending a prospect along with it. We have almost $20 mil in cap space and i think only a few RFAs to pay - Skjei, Hayes, and Spooner. I think spotrac's $20 mil doesnt have Brendan Smith on there for some reason though... i suspect / hope we'll get a much better 2018-2019 out of that guy now that Veenyo is gone and he's been working much harder this summer than last when he was counting his money.
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