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PFF-Giants #29 in pass rush, Eagles/Cowboys/Redskins top 10

Vin_Cuccs : 7/17/2018 7:36 pm
Interesting analysis. I'll let everyone here debate the accuracy of the rankings.

I'm hoping that Bettcher's scheme can overcome the lack of depth in the pass rush, and get the most out of the rookies.
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Probably didn't hurt Dallas or Philly projections that they each got  
arniefez : 7/17/2018 7:42 pm : link
to rush against the Giants OL 2 times each last year.
RE: Probably didn't hurt Dallas or Philly projections that they each got  
Dan in the Springs : 7/17/2018 7:42 pm : link
In comment 14015098 arniefez said:
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to rush against the Giants OL 2 times each last year.


My first thought as well lol.
Wow! A 3-13 team ranks at the bottom of a statistical catagory  
BillT : 7/17/2018 8:24 pm : link
News at 11! This isn't the first or last statistic that the 2017 Giants undoubtedly ranked at the bottom of. Now, if the 2018 Cowboys or Eagles or Redskins have 26 or so players on IR they too will rank near the bottom of a bunch of statistical categories.
I think our 3-4  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/17/2018 8:26 pm : link
is pretty solid. The secondary concerns me.
Everyone will remember the 3-sack opening night  
shyster : 7/17/2018 8:28 pm : link
debacle in Dallas.

But, in the other three games vs Dallas and Philly combined, only one sack, for 5 yards.
Looks like a long year  
TMS : 7/17/2018 9:12 pm : link
for us again. But it is only on paper.
Well, we are clearly in the bottom half of the league  
Jimmy Googs : 7/17/2018 10:00 pm : link
so not sure it’s worth the analysis or debate whether we are 17th or 29th.

But feel free since its July....
Surpised  
Doomster : 7/18/2018 7:24 am : link
they are ranked that high....

Until they actually go out there and perform, no one knows.....
This season we added dline  
superspynyg : 7/18/2018 8:16 am : link
In Mac And Hillin the draft I have no doubt that we add linebackers next season. I have faith that Carter is starting at the end of the season and we add another line early next season.
I would be surprised if it were that bad  
UberAlias : 7/18/2018 8:53 am : link
We know they have work to do in this area, but they won’t be terrible if key guys stay healthy.
Trying to project..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/18/2018 8:55 am : link
how a team will do under a new DC and a new scheme is basically an exercise in futility.
Dismiss it  
mittenedman : 7/18/2018 9:55 am : link
all you want but you wont find an NFL team with fewer pass rushers than what the Giants have right now.

That said at least they have some tough run defenders. Nothing close to the 2015 D which was the worst collection of players Ive seen
We didnt exactly sign pass rushers  
Rudy5757 : 7/18/2018 1:47 pm : link
or draft them either. The rush will have to come in the form of blitzes. I dont know how much you can expect from OV, he has been unspectacular. Where/who are the pass rushers on this team?

I think some are over rating the D based on the DC. Yes he has been a good DC and I think he was a good signing but you still have to have the players. Our secondary at this point looks to be weaker than in the past. We have Apple at starter and a bunch of no name or older vets after that. I have no doubt we can stop the run, but if there is no rush our secondary will get chewed up.
We have the scheme...  
Torrag : 7/18/2018 2:16 pm : link
...we have the big bodied disruptors to free up the speed guys. We have Vernon. Those are all good things to start with. Can Carter have an impact as a rookie? That's a critical component to our pass rush imo. Can Landon Collins surprise with how he will be close to the Los and set loose by Betcher at times. 29th seems too low for a coordinator with a penchant for having his defenses ranked in the top half of the league in pressure.
New coaches, new players, new scheme on defense and offense  
TMS : 7/18/2018 2:34 pm : link
We will struggle early no doubt. Unless this team and its coaches are very special. Which is not usually the case. Another long year coming up.
hopefully an improved offense  
PaulBlakeTSU : 7/18/2018 2:38 pm : link
will increase time of possession and give the pass rushers more of a breather so that they are fresher.
Weird to mention Martin  
RetroJint : 7/18/2018 8:49 pm : link
the way that they do. He played in the system . He wasn’t able to generate pressure . The Giants have Vernon and maybe Carter . Other than those two the pressures will have to come from scheme . And I think that over the second half of the season , the pass rush will get markedly better

But I think they’re going to have a rough go of it the first month .
Low expectations  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 7/18/2018 9:00 pm : link
are a good thing. When expectations get sky high this club seems to shit the bed.
The record is what it is ...  
Beer Man : 7/19/2018 10:50 am : link
The team was terrible last year, have made a number of personnel changes that will hopefully improve them, and they are changing their entire D-scheme. Until they actually suit-up and play, there is really nothing to back a higher ranking at this point.
I think their front 7 will surprise people .....  
short lease : 7/21/2018 5:23 am : link
not going to be spectacular but, solid and better then that article is giving them credit for.
RE: I think their front 7 will surprise people .....  
SGMen : 7/21/2018 7:04 am : link
In comment 14017506 short lease said:
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not going to be spectacular but, solid and better then that article is giving them credit for.
I believe our front 7 will be solid against the run. We are at least one PASS RUSHER and one CB away from being a very good defense, IMHO. But you can't buy those types of players very easily.

You have to hope young guys flourish and play above any expectations. That simple.
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