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Familia owed just over $3M for rest of season. #Mets confirmed publicly today what already had been reported - that they are willing to include cash in a deal to secure a better return.
Cabrera and Bautista will go next. Too bad freaking Frazier is out or we might have been able to unload him. His salary is pretty minimal and a team might have needed a decent glove/bottom of the order hitter for the postseason run.
Cabrera and Bautista will go next. Too bad freaking Frazier is out or we might have been able to unload him. His salary is pretty minimal and a team might have needed a decent glove/bottom of the order hitter for the postseason run.
He's one of the only vets I wouldn't mind coming back next year.
If I knew Cespedes was going to be healthy but we have to get some impact bats in here next year since Cespedes cant be relied on and we wont have many spots to do it. Id prefer to open 3B up and clear additional salary. The more salary we can unload the better IMO.
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Source confirms: #Athletics working to get Familia from #Mets. No deal in place. Other teams might still be in mix. Interest from As first reported by @susanslusser earlier today.
prospects, here are a few that sound like possible fits.
Jesus Luzardo. - their #1 guy is a lefty starter - Keith Law has him #34 overall in his midseason top 50. 20 years old putting up good numbers in AA, already had TJS.
AJ Puk - another top lefty starter with big stuff but he just got hit with TJS so he's out until mid next year. Law had him at #40 anyway, was preseason top 15.
Sean Murphy - apparently the 3rd best C prospect in baseball according to pipeline. Putting up solid numbers in AA, supposedly an athletic defender with a good arm. 23 years old.
James Kaprielian - Probably most realistic target, righty starter they got from the Yankees as part of the Sony Gray trade. Was an overslot first round pick in 2015. Then had TJS. Due to come back sometime this year. 24 years old.
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Mets have done extensive scouting of the Houston Astros farm system, so perhaps Familia is a fit for the Astros. Back end of the Houston bullpen an obvious area of concern.
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Sources: Mets have an agreement on structure of a Familia trade, but not finalized.
The #Athletics had interest in Jeurys Familia, as @susanslusser reported. But apparently theyre not willing to take on as much money as another club in the bidding.
11:20 PM - 20 Jul 2018 from Barnstable Town, MA
The #Athletics had interest in Jeurys Familia, as @susanslusser reported. But apparently theyre not willing to take on as much money as another club in the bidding.
11:20 PM - 20 Jul 2018 from Barnstable Town, MA
Here we go again. Pay the entire thing if it means getting better prospects
The #Athletics had interest in Jeurys Familia, as @susanslusser reported. But apparently theyre not willing to take on as much money as another club in the bidding.
11:20 PM - 20 Jul 2018 from Barnstable Town, MA
I will be really annoyed if we take a much worse offer because it required us kicking in less money. It isnt like Familias contract is an albatross.
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The Mets trade of Jeurys Familia to Oakland might not be official until tomorrow -- and Wilmer Flores would remind you that a trade ain't done till it's done. But he's headed to A's barring snag
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The Mets trade of Jeurys Familia to Oakland might not be official until tomorrow -- and Wilmer Flores would remind you that a trade ain't done till it's done. But he's headed to A's barring snag
The #Athletics had interest in Jeurys Familia, as @susanslusser reported. But apparently theyre not willing to take on as much money as another club in the bidding.
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I will be really annoyed if we take a much worse offer because it required us kicking in less money. It isnt like Familias contract is an albatross.
That could be deceiving. If two teams are offering roughly the same return in prospects of course you are going to trade with the team willing to take on a little extra salary on top of it. Mets already said they would eat salary for a better return.
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Players of interest for Mets front office include Jorge Mateo, Franklin Barreto & Ramon Laureano. A's prefer to move someone less MLB ready like Lazaro Armenteros. From what I have heard Mets initially wanted Sean Murphy and was told he is untouchable as is Jesus Luzardo.
some reading material while we wait for names to leak out
Cespedes says that the cause of his medical issues is calcification in both heels. He says the only way to fix the issue is surgery. Hes considering it for the off-season, but the recovery time is apparently 8-10 months.
Expected that with Luzardo and no tears over no Murphy
He had .596 OPS last year in AA at age 22. He repeated AA this year and his numbers are decent but also relatively meaningless, which Mets should know better than anyone since they often have guys repeat years.
This guy's numbers are way worse than Plawecki's at the same age.
RE: some reading material while we wait for names to leak out
If it's around Murphy, hopefully there's at least a decent second piece.
Sheldon Neuse is also interesting at 3B, though he's having a terrible year at AAA. Oakland Athletics Top 20 prospects for 2018 - ( New Window )
Id be hesitant to look at something from March. A lot has likely changed since then. For instance Murphy's value has gone way up. Has BA released their mid-season top 10 like they did for the Mets the other day?
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The #Athletics had interest in Jeurys Familia, as @susanslusser reported. But apparently theyre not willing to take on as much money as another club in the bidding.
11:20 PM - 20 Jul 2018 from Barnstable Town, MA
I will be really annoyed if we take a much worse offer because it required us kicking in less money. It isnt like Familias contract is an albatross.
That could be deceiving. If two teams are offering roughly the same return in prospects of course you are going to trade with the team willing to take on a little extra salary on top of it. Mets already said they would eat salary for a better return.
That is why I said a much worse offer. If it is comparable I have no issue saving some money
Cespedes says that the cause of his medical issues is calcification in both heels. He says the only way to fix the issue is surgery. Hes considering it for the off-season, but the recovery time is apparently 8-10 months.
lol. So hes playing now, why exactly? Get the surgery now. Not in the off-season. If thats the recovery time. Unreal
Jorge Mateo | IF/OF | AAA > Another player with game-changing speed, his effort has been questioned. He needs to focus more on getting on base to take advantage of that speed.
He had .596 OPS last year in AA at age 22. He repeated AA this year and his numbers are decent but also relatively meaningless, which Mets should know better than anyone since they often have guys repeat years.
This guy's numbers are way worse than Plawecki's at the same age.
I dont think your looking at his numbers right. He had a wRC+ of 130 in A+ ball. He did struggle over 200 atbats when he got promoted to AA but now he's right back up to a wRC+ of 130ish again at that level. It's normal for there to be an adjustment after being promoted. If his defense is good, 130 is more than enough.
RE: Here's a fangraphs updated from a few weeks ago
Jorge Mateo | IF/OF | AAA > Another player with game-changing speed, his effort has been questioned. He needs to focus more on getting on base to take advantage of that speed.
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I take that to mean Oakland has given the Mets options for who they are willing to give up and the Mets haven't decided who they are picking yet. 3 gm's currently playing rock, paper, scissors to see who gets to make the selections.
But not hearing As
But not hearing As
Giants? Between Posey and Bart I'd imagine they are willing to deal the other C they have that's ranked fairly high.
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Familia owed just over $3M for rest of season. #Mets confirmed publicly today what already had been reported - that they are willing to include cash in a deal to secure a better return.
But not hearing As
Can you give a hint at who you may be hearing?
He's one of the only vets I wouldn't mind coming back next year.
coincidence?
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Source confirms: #Athletics working to get Familia from #Mets. No deal in place. Other teams might still be in mix. Interest from As first reported by @susanslusser earlier today.
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But not hearing As
As have better prospects like Luzardo than San Francisco
good point, I assumed maybe McNeil was in the trade. But Cabrera makes more sense.
Jesus Luzardo. - their #1 guy is a lefty starter - Keith Law has him #34 overall in his midseason top 50. 20 years old putting up good numbers in AA, already had TJS.
AJ Puk - another top lefty starter with big stuff but he just got hit with TJS so he's out until mid next year. Law had him at #40 anyway, was preseason top 15.
Sean Murphy - apparently the 3rd best C prospect in baseball according to pipeline. Putting up solid numbers in AA, supposedly an athletic defender with a good arm. 23 years old.
James Kaprielian - Probably most realistic target, righty starter they got from the Yankees as part of the Sony Gray trade. Was an overslot first round pick in 2015. Then had TJS. Due to come back sometime this year. 24 years old.
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Mets have done extensive scouting of the Houston Astros farm system, so perhaps Familia is a fit for the Astros. Back end of the Houston bullpen an obvious area of concern.
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Sources: Mets have an agreement on structure of a Familia trade, but not finalized.
Maybe more teams are getting involved!
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The #Athletics had interest in Jeurys Familia, as @susanslusser reported. But apparently theyre not willing to take on as much money as another club in the bidding.
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Cross the Astros off the list of possible landing spots for Familia. Also: Cubs, Red Sox, Braves.
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The #Athletics had interest in Jeurys Familia, as @susanslusser reported. But apparently theyre not willing to take on as much money as another club in the bidding.
11:20 PM - 20 Jul 2018 from Barnstable Town, MA
Here we go again. Pay the entire thing if it means getting better prospects
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The #Athletics had interest in Jeurys Familia, as @susanslusser reported. But apparently theyre not willing to take on as much money as another club in the bidding.
11:20 PM - 20 Jul 2018 from Barnstable Town, MA
I will be really annoyed if we take a much worse offer because it required us kicking in less money. It isnt like Familias contract is an albatross.
Hunter Strickland is not a closer. But with Moronto, Smith and Watson pitching lights out that pen could be really strong with Familia as closer.
Throw in Cabrera because Panik is injured and been awful
The Mets trade of Jeurys Familia to Oakland might not be official until tomorrow -- and Wilmer Flores would remind you that a trade ain't done till it's done. But he's headed to A's barring snag
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The Mets trade of Jeurys Familia to Oakland might not be official until tomorrow -- and Wilmer Flores would remind you that a trade ain't done till it's done. But he's headed to A's barring snag
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being willing to take on salary?
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The #Athletics had interest in Jeurys Familia, as @susanslusser reported. But apparently theyre not willing to take on as much money as another club in the bidding.
11:20 PM - 20 Jul 2018 from Barnstable Town, MA
I will be really annoyed if we take a much worse offer because it required us kicking in less money. It isnt like Familias contract is an albatross.
That could be deceiving. If two teams are offering roughly the same return in prospects of course you are going to trade with the team willing to take on a little extra salary on top of it. Mets already said they would eat salary for a better return.
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Players of interest for Mets front office include Jorge Mateo, Franklin Barreto & Ramon Laureano. A's prefer to move someone less MLB ready like Lazaro Armenteros. From what I have heard Mets initially wanted Sean Murphy and was told he is untouchable as is Jesus Luzardo.
Puk and Kaprielian are both interesting.
If it's around Murphy, hopefully there's at least a decent second piece.
Sheldon Neuse is also interesting at 3B, though he's having a terrible year at AAA.
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This guy's numbers are way worse than Plawecki's at the same age.
Puk and Kaprielian are both interesting.
If it's around Murphy, hopefully there's at least a decent second piece.
Sheldon Neuse is also interesting at 3B, though he's having a terrible year at AAA. Oakland Athletics Top 20 prospects for 2018 - ( New Window )
Id be hesitant to look at something from March. A lot has likely changed since then. For instance Murphy's value has gone way up. Has BA released their mid-season top 10 like they did for the Mets the other day?
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The #Athletics had interest in Jeurys Familia, as @susanslusser reported. But apparently theyre not willing to take on as much money as another club in the bidding.
11:20 PM - 20 Jul 2018 from Barnstable Town, MA
I will be really annoyed if we take a much worse offer because it required us kicking in less money. It isnt like Familias contract is an albatross.
That could be deceiving. If two teams are offering roughly the same return in prospects of course you are going to trade with the team willing to take on a little extra salary on top of it. Mets already said they would eat salary for a better return.
That is why I said a much worse offer. If it is comparable I have no issue saving some money
lol. So hes playing now, why exactly? Get the surgery now. Not in the off-season. If thats the recovery time. Unreal
Jorge Mateo | IF/OF | AAA > Another player with game-changing speed, his effort has been questioned. He needs to focus more on getting on base to take advantage of that speed.
Oakland Athletics Top 10 Prospects Updated - ( New Window )
This guy's numbers are way worse than Plawecki's at the same age.
I dont think your looking at his numbers right. He had a wRC+ of 130 in A+ ball. He did struggle over 200 atbats when he got promoted to AA but now he's right back up to a wRC+ of 130ish again at that level. It's normal for there to be an adjustment after being promoted. If his defense is good, 130 is more than enough.
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Jorge Mateo | IF/OF | AAA > Another player with game-changing speed, his effort has been questioned. He needs to focus more on getting on base to take advantage of that speed.
Oakland Athletics Top 10 Prospects Updated - ( New Window )
Nice. Thanks.
Obviously, there is a huge dearth of catchers in MLB, so I can see why he has some value. But I hope he is not the return
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