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NFT: Did the Mets seriously just trade a quality player for crap

giantsFC : 7/21/2018 9:41 pm
Again?

My gawd, to think everyone was talking a decent prospect in return. And to see what other relievers are getting in return compared to this was a joke.

This is why it’s pointless to trade the Mets best players bc obviously the Coupons are never going to maximize the power of a large market team but at the same time keep sacrificing the potential for small market success.

If any team is run similar to the 80’s movie major league it’s this one,
Wahl could prove to be  
GmeninPSL : 7/21/2018 9:58 pm : link
a valuable relief pitcher throwing in the mid to upper 90's and who really knows about a 4th round draft choice in Toffey who is a 3rd basemen. But seriously what did you expect??

As good of a Mets career Familia had he single handedly cost this team the 2015 world series as the Mets had leads in all five games, including game one in KC that Familia blew. He also blew the one game playoff against the Giants in 2016. I had ZERO and even SUB-ZERO confidence in Familia if the Mets were ever to be lucky enough to be in that position again so as far as I'm concerned; GOOD RIDDENCE .......
you hit the nail on the head  
gtt350 : 7/21/2018 10:00 pm : link
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They trade for what one of the 3 heads calls  
moespree : 7/21/2018 10:26 pm : link
"A major league ready reliever" and immediately send him to AAA. With a major league bullpen that's terrible. Should tell you all you need to know about the franchise.
how much international money  
RasputinPrime : 7/21/2018 10:28 pm : link
did they get? That must have played a big role.
RE: Wahl could prove to be  
spike : 7/21/2018 10:53 pm : link
In comment 14018137 GmeninPSL said:
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a valuable relief pitcher throwing in the mid to upper 90's and who really knows about a 4th round draft choice in Toffey who is a 3rd basemen. But seriously what did you expect??

As good of a Mets career Familia had he single handedly cost this team the 2015 world series as the Mets had leads in all five games, including game one in KC that Familia blew. He also blew the one game playoff against the Giants in 2016. I had ZERO and even SUB-ZERO confidence in Familia if the Mets were ever to be lucky enough to be in that position again so as far as I'm concerned; GOOD RIDDENCE .......


Yes and no. Crappy defense did the Mets in during the end of the WS games. Since the organization gives no crap about defense...
RE: how much international money  
Dunedin81 : 7/21/2018 11:02 pm : link
In comment 14018149 RasputinPrime said:
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did they get? That must have played a big role.


Reportedly $1 mil
Both Ricciardi and Ricco  
Sammo85 : 7/21/2018 11:33 pm : link
Should be let go the end of this year but of course they won’t. They’re both highly responsible for the mess this team is and the lack of development in players and the horrible depth and limited talent in the mid-upper minors.
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giantsFC : 7/21/2018 11:44 pm : link
Agree! Rico is completely correlated to all their fails. I don’t get how anyone related to this recent 30 year window can still part of the process.
RE: They trade for what one of the 3 heads calls  
Vanzetti : 7/22/2018 12:37 am : link
In comment 14018147 moespree said:
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"A major league ready reliever" and immediately send him to AAA. With a major league bullpen that's terrible. Should tell you all you need to know about the franchise.


The laughable part is they keep throwing Swarzak out there, hoping he will justify their signing. But the guy is so awful, it does exactly the opposite

Swarzak, Vargas and Bruce--what a trifecta
RE: Wahl could prove to be  
Deejboy : 7/22/2018 6:28 am : link
In comment 14018137 GmeninPSL said:
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a valuable relief pitcher throwing in the mid to upper 90's and who really knows about a 4th round draft choice in Toffey who is a 3rd basemen. But seriously what did you expect??

As good of a Mets career Familia had he single handedly cost this team the 2015 world series as the Mets had leads in all five games, including game one in KC that Familia blew. He also blew the one game playoff against the Giants in 2016. I had ZERO and even SUB-ZERO confidence in Familia if the Mets were ever to be lucky enough to be in that position again so as far as I'm concerned; GOOD RIDDENCE .......


Wahl doesn't throw that hard anymore. He had Thoracic Outlet surgery last year and lost velocity which pretty much happens with that surgery. Even before he got hurt he wasn't really considered The Mets traded for him based on his AAA numbers this year but he isn't the same pitcher and Keith Law doesn't think he can get major league hitters. He is 26 and the As took him off their 40 man so he was gone after this season anyway.

Toffey is not much of a prospect. He doesn't have power or the ability to hit for any contact.

Even though no one trusts Familia in any high leverage spot he was expected to still have decent trade value since his numbers match up pretty well to any reliever that was in the mix to be traded. And the consensus right now around baseball is the Mets got NOTHING for Familia which is pretty depressing.
A legit 20-something closer traded away as a $3M salary dump  
TD : 7/22/2018 10:15 am : link
Thanks Coupons. Now I’ve seen it all.

Shame on the Coupons and shame on MLB for allowing them to retain their ownership.
It’s really funny how trades like these bring out the invisible fans  
PhiPsi125 : 7/22/2018 10:23 am : link
who all seem to have a revisionist history of what actually occurred.

As much as I would get on Familia, he did NOT “single-handedly cost the Mets the WS.” The defense was horrible, the offense was a ZERO, Cespedes was a dog, relief pitching was spotty. That’s why we lost the WS.

What’s funny (or more sad)...is that we still have the exact same issues theee seasons later. Sandy either ignored the issues or was god awful at filling those holes. I’m not going to get into the draft picks issue - which I think were equally awful decisions.
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Named Later : 7/22/2018 10:33 am : link
This is so "Mets" that you just shake you head and laugh.

Yesterday the talk was all about the Mets paying Jerry Familia's salary for better prospects. They were scouting the Astros deep farm system, and the SF Giants were interested and that there would be a bidding war. The A's were offering one of their top position players and were going to throw-in Krapelian.....well, they got the Krap part right.

This is so similar to last year's thrift store binge that it should be called Salary Dump 2. It's not like you have to explain to Moe, Larry & Shemp what the Thoracic Outlet is and why Surgery there is a major red flag -- they just wathed it ruin their own prized young pitcher.
The Mariners have expressed interest  
Jay on the Island : 7/22/2018 11:34 am : link
in Mets 2B Asdrubal Cabrera.
The GM sharks  
SJGiant : 7/22/2018 11:49 am : link
Are circling the Mets for cheap food. Come and get players just for a little money. We will even take your trash for the experience.

Gotta love this Mets organization. The commissioner should install another GM to make sure we don’t have another owner like Charlie Finley selling assets.
RE: ..  
giantsFC : 7/22/2018 2:17 pm : link
In comment 14018309 Named Later said:
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This is so "Mets" that you just shake you head and laugh.

Yesterday the talk was all about the Mets paying Jerry Familia's salary for better prospects. They were scouting the Astros deep farm system, and the SF Giants were interested and that there would be a bidding war. The A's were offering one of their top position players and were going to throw-in Krapelian.....well, they got the Krap part right.

This is so similar to last year's thrift store binge that it should be called Salary Dump 2. It's not like you have to explain to Moe, Larry & Shemp what the Thoracic Outlet is and why Surgery there is a major red flag -- they just wathed it ruin their own prized young pitcher.


Lol. 100%
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