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Giants sign Connor Barwin

nygiants16 : 7/23/2018 4:08 pm
according to ranaan
Tweet  
Defenderdawg : 7/23/2018 4:09 pm : link
Jordan Raanan (@JordanRaanan)
7/23/18, 4:06 PM
The Giants are expected to sign veteran outside linebacker Connor Barwin, per source. Adds much-needed depth at the position and a quality veteran presence. Also has a strong relationship with LB coach Bill McGovern from their time together in Philadelphia.
Can't wait for his speeches to rile the troops up!  
Anakim : 7/23/2018 4:10 pm : link
That being said, dude was a pain in the ass to play against when he was with the Eagles.


But I'd like a FS like Tre Boston
Solid move  
BigBlue4You09 : 7/23/2018 4:11 pm : link
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Good character guy.....  
Ryan : 7/23/2018 4:12 pm : link
..might have a little left situationally. Hair should be a 4 game suspension.

I'd love to ask him if Pugh was doing his favorite team a favor opting not to block him often in that 27-0 embarrassment in '14.
he's an odd fish  
Rocky369 : 7/23/2018 4:14 pm : link
but did give us trouble while in PHI. Also had to have taken a steeply discounted rate considering the current cap projections are around $2M remaining.
He's a great  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/23/2018 4:16 pm : link
pickup to fill in while the one guy is out, and to be a situational pass rusher. Doesn't have to play every down every game.
Better 3-4 player than 4-3  
JonC : 7/23/2018 4:18 pm : link
Philly is normally pretty good at judging when to cut a player loose.
He'll be 32 in a few months, but he has had 2 double digit  
Ira : 7/23/2018 4:19 pm : link
sack seasons and one season with 10 pass defenses. Not a bad vet to have on the bench.
excellent move  
gtt350 : 7/23/2018 4:19 pm : link
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Good addition  
Jay on the Island : 7/23/2018 4:20 pm : link
Barwin had 5 sacks last season for the Rams. He could see some time as a situational pass rusher.
Actually - pd might be pass deflections.  
Ira : 7/23/2018 4:23 pm : link
I'm not sure.
I'm just going to say  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/23/2018 4:24 pm : link
Dave Te was all over this this morning - way before it broke
This is a tough one  
Matt in SGS : 7/23/2018 4:24 pm : link
he makes sense for the team but I hated the PISS out of this guy when he was on the Eagles. He killed the Giants. The look on his face. Not sure what he has left in the tank, but hell, if he wears Giants blue, I'm rooting for him.
RE: Good character guy.....  
mfsd : 7/23/2018 4:24 pm : link
In comment 14019425 Ryan said:
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..might have a little left situationally. Hair should be a 4 game suspension.

I'd love to ask him if Pugh was doing his favorite team a favor opting not to block him often in that 27-0 embarrassment in '14.


Hehe.

This feels like a move Bettcher was pushing for...for the reasons y'all cited, situational depth, 3-4 guy, veteran leadership
It's good to be able to rotate the front seven,  
Ira : 7/23/2018 4:24 pm : link
so this could be a big help.
Not sure  
Metnut : 7/23/2018 4:25 pm : link
what he has left in the tank. I'd have preferred another safety, but given our constant injuries at LB, it's never a bad idea to have a competent 6th or 7th LB on the roster.
Would prefer a vet MLB  
ZGiants98 : 7/23/2018 4:25 pm : link
But this is solid.
RE: Not sure  
ZGiants98 : 7/23/2018 4:26 pm : link
In comment 14019447 Metnut said:
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what he has left in the tank. I'd have preferred another safety, but given our constant injuries at LB, it's never a bad idea to have a competent 6th or 7th LB on the roster.


I think we are pretty full at safety. Theres no star opposite Collins but we have a lot of safeties that are likely at least backup quality. Not sure we need more of them.
One of us now  
Defenderdawg : 7/23/2018 4:28 pm : link
Connor Barwin (@ConnorBarwin98)
7/23/18, 4:17 PM
Im excited to announce Ive agreed to terms with the New York Football Giants. Lets go G-Men
RE: Would prefer a vet MLB  
Jay on the Island : 7/23/2018 4:29 pm : link
In comment 14019448 ZGiants98 said:
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But this is solid.

I would be shocked if the Giants don't add a veteran ILB before the season. IMO the primary backup ILB isn't currently on the roster. Perhaps NaVorro Bowman who is still a free agent.
Wired  
Professor Falken : 7/23/2018 4:30 pm : link
last season with the Rams.
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Sign Odell and backload the deal year one by a bit...  
ZGiants98 : 7/23/2018 4:31 pm : link
Cut Jerry freeing up some more coin. Add Dez, DRC, Darkwa, N Bowman, and a vet swing OT all for close to the minimum. :)
RE: Would prefer a vet MLB  
JonC : 7/23/2018 4:31 pm : link
In comment 14019448 ZGiants98 said:
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But this is solid.


It's Ogletree if they run 4-3 looks.
RE: RE: Would prefer a vet MLB  
ZGiants98 : 7/23/2018 4:31 pm : link
In comment 14019455 Jay on the Island said:
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But this is solid.


I would be shocked if the Giants don't add a veteran ILB before the season. IMO the primary backup ILB isn't currently on the roster. Perhaps NaVorro Bowman who is still a free agent.


Ha just mentioned Bowman in my other post. ;)
RE: RE: Would prefer a vet MLB  
ZGiants98 : 7/23/2018 4:32 pm : link
In comment 14019460 JonC said:
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But this is solid.



It's Ogletree if they run 4-3 looks.


Huh? Im referring to a backup over RayRay and Herzlich.
Philly take  
Defenderdawg : 7/23/2018 4:33 pm : link
Throughout the Chip Kelly era, Barwin was one of the most valuable members in Billy Davis' 3-4 defense because of his versatility. Barwin could cover, rush the passer, and play the run, but was not a dominant player when doing any of those things.

In his first three seasons with the team, Barwin posted very good numbers overall. However, in Jim Schwartz's scheme, Barwin was asked to beat left tackles mano-e-mano, which was not his strength. Here were Barwin's numbers in his four years with the Eagles:

Connor Barwin Tackles Sacks FF Pass breakups / batted passes
2013 59 5 1 10
2014 64 14.5 2 5
2015 54 7 1 7
2016 34 5 1 2

Playing in a defensive scheme that has historically been very stat-friendly for defensive ends, Barwin posted the worst numbers of his Eagles career in 2016, across the board. Releasing him to save $7,750,000 in cap space during the 2017 offseason was a no-brainer decision.

In Barwin's next stop in Los Angeles with the Rams, in what seemed like a good match, he played in a 3-4 scheme under Wade Phillips, appearing in 14 games and starting 13. He had 34 tackles and 5 sacks.

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You wrote MLB  
JonC : 7/23/2018 4:34 pm : link
there's two on the roster already, AO (according to Gettleman) and Goodson, if they want to run 4-3 looks.
This is an Eagles circa 2017 move  
adamg : 7/23/2018 4:36 pm : link
Loading up upfront. Good stuff.
RE: This is a tough one  
chopperhatch : 7/23/2018 4:37 pm : link
In comment 14019443 Matt in SGS said:
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he makes sense for the team but I hated the PISS out of this guy when he was on the Eagles. He killed the Giants. The look on his face. Not sure what he has left in the tank, but hell, if he wears Giants blue, I'm rooting for him.


I hated him too. He lives(think he does still actually live here) in the same neighborhood as I do here in Philly (Fishtown), and I have drank with him a few times(basically sat at the same bar and socialized with each other and other bar guests) and served him twice. He's kind of a turd. Pretty obnoxious when drunk (one time he was with Riley Cooper and that was particularly grating) and kind of smug when I waited on him.

But he does do a lot of charity work around here and is pretty principled. He drives a hybrid, very much into the greener side of things and became very attached to Philly in general. I dont see any of that happening in NY.
There's plenty of time to fill some holes on the roster  
yatqb : 7/23/2018 4:37 pm : link
given our waiver claim position. Barwin may or may not stick (anyone know if he signed at the vet minimum?) but I suspect that we'll have a number of players come in after cuts this year.

The bottom of the roster is still thin.
RE: You wrote MLB  
ZGiants98 : 7/23/2018 4:38 pm : link
In comment 14019467 JonC said:
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there's two on the roster already, AO (according to Gettleman) and Goodson, if they want to run 4-3 looks.


Ok I still dont know what you mean but cool. I think we all know Ogletree and Goodson are the starters. Munson, Herzlich, RayRay, etc are backup MLB Id like to upgrade off of. LBs get injured often and Id prefer not to see any of that group starting in 2018.
MLB is a 4-3 position  
JonC : 7/23/2018 4:39 pm : link
in a 3-4, there's two ILB positions, no MLB.
RE: RE: You wrote MLB  
adamg : 7/23/2018 4:39 pm : link
In comment 14019471 ZGiants98 said:
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there's two on the roster already, AO (according to Gettleman) and Goodson, if they want to run 4-3 looks.



Ok I still dont know what you mean but cool. I think we all know Ogletree and Goodson are the starters. Munson, Herzlich, RayRay, etc are backup MLB Id like to upgrade off of. LBs get injured often and Id prefer not to see any of that group starting in 2018.
He took your "MLB" to mean MLB in a 43. You mean ILB though. As in either ILB spot of the 34. Not MLB.
Ok got it.  
ZGiants98 : 7/23/2018 4:40 pm : link
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RE: MLB is a 4-3 position  
ZGiants98 : 7/23/2018 4:42 pm : link
In comment 14019472 JonC said:
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in a 3-4, there's two ILB positions, no MLB.


Lets put it this way. I want a backup vet MLB or ILB familiar with a running a LB unit (this happens in both 4-3 and 3-4.
Wow  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 7/23/2018 4:46 pm : link
So not a traditional Giant move. If he is playing situationally, I like it. Little risk, fair upside.
Good dude in the locker room and off the field  
jlukes : 7/23/2018 4:46 pm : link
always good to have vets like this when you are in a year with a new coaching staff
One dimensional player  
since1925 : 7/23/2018 4:49 pm : link
Pass rushing specialist.

Very good guy. Intelligent. Solid citizen. At the right number a good addition.
RE: RE: This is a tough one  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/23/2018 4:51 pm : link
In comment 14019469 chopperhatch said:
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he makes sense for the team but I hated the PISS out of this guy when he was on the Eagles. He killed the Giants. The look on his face. Not sure what he has left in the tank, but hell, if he wears Giants blue, I'm rooting for him.



I hated him too. He lives(think he does still actually live here) in the same neighborhood as I do here in Philly (Fishtown), and I have drank with him a few times(basically sat at the same bar and socialized with each other and other bar guests) and served him twice. He's kind of a turd. Pretty obnoxious when drunk (one time he was with Riley Cooper and that was particularly grating) and kind of smug when I waited on him.

But he does do a lot of charity work around here and is pretty principled. He drives a hybrid, very much into the greener side of things and became very attached to Philly in general. I dont see any of that happening in NY.


I'm in Fishtown as well. My co-workers boyfriend is Riley Coopers Attorney, and is friends with him Lane Johnson, and Barwin. I could careless though!
...  
Toth029 : 7/23/2018 4:53 pm : link
Decent depth. More pass rushers can't hurt.
Ryan your response  
joeinpa : 7/23/2018 4:54 pm : link
Made me laugh out loud.
RE: One dimensional player  
BigBlue4You09 : 7/23/2018 4:54 pm : link
In comment 14019483 since1925 said:
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Pass rushing specialist.

Very good guy. Intelligent. Solid citizen. At the right number a good addition.


I assume it's a low risk move. He's been on the market a while and we don't have much room...
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chopperhatch : 7/23/2018 4:55 pm : link
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he makes sense for the team but I hated the PISS out of this guy when he was on the Eagles. He killed the Giants. The look on his face. Not sure what he has left in the tank, but hell, if he wears Giants blue, I'm rooting for him.



I hated him too. He lives(think he does still actually live here) in the same neighborhood as I do here in Philly (Fishtown), and I have drank with him a few times(basically sat at the same bar and socialized with each other and other bar guests) and served him twice. He's kind of a turd. Pretty obnoxious when drunk (one time he was with Riley Cooper and that was particularly grating) and kind of smug when I waited on him.

But he does do a lot of charity work around here and is pretty principled. He drives a hybrid, very much into the greener side of things and became very attached to Philly in general. I dont see any of that happening in NY.



I'm in Fishtown as well. My co-workers boyfriend is Riley Coopers Attorney, and is friends with him Lane Johnson, and Barwin. I could careless though!


Ahh, no shit! We should get together for a game some time. Where do you usually watch them?
Good call from this morning  
BigBlue4You09 : 7/23/2018 4:57 pm : link
In comment 14018992 nflscouting said:
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Giants & Philadelphia are very interested in another ex-Ram, Connor Barwin. If Big Blue gets him, expect it to be to mentor Lorenzo Carter, a player Bechter has been very high on. Bechter tried to get Arizona to snatch Barwin before the Rams signed him to play out of position in 2016. Philly wants him to remain an OLB but Giants see him as an edge rusher
I hate this  
McNally's_Nuts : 7/23/2018 4:57 pm : link
guy.

But Ill be rooting for him.
Cross Barwin off but crazy  
ZGiants98 : 7/23/2018 4:58 pm : link
How many vets are left.
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BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/23/2018 5:00 pm : link
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he makes sense for the team but I hated the PISS out of this guy when he was on the Eagles. He killed the Giants. The look on his face. Not sure what he has left in the tank, but hell, if he wears Giants blue, I'm rooting for him.



I hated him too. He lives(think he does still actually live here) in the same neighborhood as I do here in Philly (Fishtown), and I have drank with him a few times(basically sat at the same bar and socialized with each other and other bar guests) and served him twice. He's kind of a turd. Pretty obnoxious when drunk (one time he was with Riley Cooper and that was particularly grating) and kind of smug when I waited on him.

But he does do a lot of charity work around here and is pretty principled. He drives a hybrid, very much into the greener side of things and became very attached to Philly in general. I dont see any of that happening in NY.



I'm in Fishtown as well. My co-workers boyfriend is Riley Coopers Attorney, and is friends with him Lane Johnson, and Barwin. I could careless though!



Ahh, no shit! We should get together for a game some time. Where do you usually watch them?


I got a slingbox setup at my parents house, so I don't need to leave the house to watch which came in handy last season.

I live 2 blocks from the Memphis Taproom, so that's a go to spot.

I like to do some drinking at El Camino across from the Piazza.
RE: Cross Barwin off but crazy  
Jay on the Island : 7/23/2018 5:02 pm : link
In comment 14019499 ZGiants98 said:
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How many vets are left. Link - ( New Window )

There are some good players available especially at safety. I would love Hankins back on a 1 year deal. That would provide great depth and allow Harrison, Tomlinson, Hill, Hankins, and Mauro to rotate to keep the line fresh through the season.
..  
Ryan in Albany : 7/23/2018 5:02 pm : link
From a thorn in our side to a thorn on our rose.

Good move!
I liked Barwin in the draft  
Milton : 7/23/2018 5:10 pm : link
I keep waiting to read about them adding a veteran WR. Would also love to see them bring back Darkwa.
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chopperhatch : 7/23/2018 5:11 pm : link
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he makes sense for the team but I hated the PISS out of this guy when he was on the Eagles. He killed the Giants. The look on his face. Not sure what he has left in the tank, but hell, if he wears Giants blue, I'm rooting for him.



I hated him too. He lives(think he does still actually live here) in the same neighborhood as I do here in Philly (Fishtown), and I have drank with him a few times(basically sat at the same bar and socialized with each other and other bar guests) and served him twice. He's kind of a turd. Pretty obnoxious when drunk (one time he was with Riley Cooper and that was particularly grating) and kind of smug when I waited on him.

But he does do a lot of charity work around here and is pretty principled. He drives a hybrid, very much into the greener side of things and became very attached to Philly in general. I dont see any of that happening in NY.



I'm in Fishtown as well. My co-workers boyfriend is Riley Coopers Attorney, and is friends with him Lane Johnson, and Barwin. I could careless though!



Ahh, no shit! We should get together for a game some time. Where do you usually watch them?



I got a slingbox setup at my parents house, so I don't need to leave the house to watch which came in handy last season.

I live 2 blocks from the Memphis Taproom, so that's a go to spot.

I like to do some drinking at El Camino across from the Piazza.


Oh my God I live in walking distance from you. I technically live in East Kenzo but its all really the same.
RE: RE: Cross Barwin off but crazy  
JamesStPatrick : 7/23/2018 5:13 pm : link
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There are some good players available especially at safety. I would love Hankins back on a 1 year deal. That would provide great depth and allow Harrison, Tomlinson, Hill, Hankins, and Mauro to rotate to keep the line fresh through the season.



Hankins is awful.
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BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/23/2018 5:16 pm : link
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he makes sense for the team but I hated the PISS out of this guy when he was on the Eagles. He killed the Giants. The look on his face. Not sure what he has left in the tank, but hell, if he wears Giants blue, I'm rooting for him.



I hated him too. He lives(think he does still actually live here) in the same neighborhood as I do here in Philly (Fishtown), and I have drank with him a few times(basically sat at the same bar and socialized with each other and other bar guests) and served him twice. He's kind of a turd. Pretty obnoxious when drunk (one time he was with Riley Cooper and that was particularly grating) and kind of smug when I waited on him.

But he does do a lot of charity work around here and is pretty principled. He drives a hybrid, very much into the greener side of things and became very attached to Philly in general. I dont see any of that happening in NY.



I'm in Fishtown as well. My co-workers boyfriend is Riley Coopers Attorney, and is friends with him Lane Johnson, and Barwin. I could careless though!



Ahh, no shit! We should get together for a game some time. Where do you usually watch them?



I got a slingbox setup at my parents house, so I don't need to leave the house to watch which came in handy last season.

I live 2 blocks from the Memphis Taproom, so that's a go to spot.

I like to do some drinking at El Camino across from the Piazza.



Oh my God I live in walking distance from you. I technically live in East Kenzo but its all really the same.


Glad to see I have a Giants fan close to me. My wife is an Eagles fan and it's tough to find other Giants fans.
If Yankee fans can forgive arch enemy, Clemens when he became  
Big Blue '56 : 7/23/2018 5:35 pm : link
one of them, then anything is possible..😎
Guessing  
Mr. Nickels : 7/23/2018 6:04 pm : link
He will live in Brooklyn
Keep him in a pass rush-only type role  
Sy'56 : 7/23/2018 6:24 pm : link
He can't do anything else.
RE: Keep him in a pass rush-only type role  
BigBlue4You09 : 7/23/2018 6:27 pm : link
In comment 14019575 Sy'56 said:
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He can't do anything else.


According to Dave thats what hes being signed for
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BigBlueHens : 7/23/2018 6:28 pm : link
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There are some good players available especially at safety. I would love Hankins back on a 1 year deal. That would provide great depth and allow Harrison, Tomlinson, Hill, Hankins, and Mauro to rotate to keep the line fresh through the season.




Hankins is awful.


Hankins is awful? Granted he is not an all-pro but he was a very good starter for the Giants. IIRC he was one of the only serviceable starters in 2015.

Barwin is a good pickup to add depth and a situational pass rusher, granted they don't ask him to do much more than to rush the passer. Fresh bodies to rush the passer in the 4th quarter is a good thing.
Very solid move again  
prdave73 : 7/23/2018 6:42 pm : link
By DG! Really liking DG. I think this was much needed for depth. Barwin is a blue collar player, gets the job done. Very good pass rusher I was hoping we could get. Cant have enough DE's...
Search function for set to archived Barwin threads  
shyster : 7/23/2018 6:42 pm : link
yields some interesting reading.

There's one from chopperhatch about encountering CB in a Philly bar after an Eagles playoff loss. Giants cap, and some comments, got a thumbs down and a "fuck you" from CB.

A number of posters wanted Barwin in the '09 draft. Much of the discussion centered on whether he would last to the second round.

He did, and was available at pick #45. Giants went with Clint Sintim. Texans took CB with the very next pick, #46.

Looking at the draft data, CB has serious athlete credentials, e.g., 40" vertical.




wow, if he's still got something  
Bill in UT : 7/23/2018 6:48 pm : link
in the tank, in a situational role, he;s one tough sob. Really happy about the signing
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/23/2018 6:59 pm : link

Ian Rapoport
‏Verified account @RapSheet
1h1 hour ago

The #Giants signed veteran pass-rusher Connor Barwin to a 2-year deal worth up to $5M, source said. Back in the NFC East.
I believe he said in an interview  
SirLoinOfBeef : 7/23/2018 7:14 pm : link
that he loved sacking Eli because of the face Eli made while being sacked.

Welcome to the NY Football Giants Connor!!!

Now go sack Wentz.
RE: Sign Odell and backload the deal year one by a bit...  
Boy Cord : 7/23/2018 7:23 pm : link
In comment 14019459 ZGiants98 said:
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Cut Jerry freeing up some more coin. Add Dez, DRC, Darkwa, N Bowman, and a vet swing OT all for close to the minimum. :)


No way to Dez. Not unless they can guarantee that Dez wont say one word during the entire season. Hell, his facial expressions and body language are just as bad. Now way, no how.

Hell yes to DRC and Darkwa. I would give Breeland a long look as well. Giants with Schurmur will be a better atmosphere than what he had in DC. He is supposedly great in the film room and on the chalk board. Up and down in DC but again, I think the Giants can keep his head on straight.
I hated this guy in Philly......  
Simms11 : 7/23/2018 7:25 pm : link
Always killed us and had the most punchable face in the NFL! With that said, of course Im happy hes now on our side. If hes still got 6-7 sacks in him, he would be a nice addition to our questionable pass rush.
Philly usually knows when a guy is toast  
The_Boss : 7/23/2018 7:30 pm : link
A lot like New England in that regard. This guy might be Carlos Emmons 2.0.
Another good move  
WillVAB : 7/23/2018 7:31 pm : link
DG has made a lot of under the radar moves like this so far and theyre gonna pay dividends this season.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/23/2018 7:37 pm : link
As Ryan pointed out above, Barwin used to bitch-slap Justin Pugh pretty good.
RE: Philly usually knows when a guy is toast  
Toth029 : 7/23/2018 7:37 pm : link
In comment 14019637 The_Boss said:
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A lot like New England in that regard. This guy might be Carlos Emmons 2.0.

He did have 5 sacks with LAR.

And Philly don't run a 3-4 anymore which he is more suited for.
As for ILB  
Joey in VA : 7/23/2018 7:48 pm : link
Don't sleep on Ray Ray Armstrong making the team and being one of the primary backups at that spot.
RE: Search function for set to archived Barwin threads  
chopperhatch : 7/23/2018 7:49 pm : link
In comment 14019587 shyster said:
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yields some interesting reading.

There's one from chopperhatch about encountering CB in a Philly bar after an Eagles playoff loss. Giants cap, and some comments, got a thumbs down and a "fuck you" from CB.

A number of posters wanted Barwin in the '09 draft. Much of the discussion centered on whether he would last to the second round.

He did, and was available at pick #45. Giants went with Clint Sintim. Texans took CB with the very next pick, #46.

Looking at the draft data, CB has serious athlete credentials, e.g., 40" vertical.





He is formidable in size. But very lean. Guy is very athletic looking
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Diver_Down : 7/23/2018 7:59 pm : link
In comment 14019654 Eric from BBI said:
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As Ryan pointed out above, Barwin used to bitch-slap Justin Pugh pretty good.


Setting the bar pretty low. Lots of players used to bitch-slap Pugh.
Finally...  
SHO'NUFF : 7/23/2018 8:08 pm : link
about 10 years too late
anyone else see the backup LBs?  
GiantsFan84 : 7/23/2018 8:52 pm : link
this guy is certainly worth a shot
Nice  
AcidTest : 7/23/2018 9:18 pm : link
signing. DG and the FO continue to have a great offseason. I'm really looking forward to this team this year.
Diver  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/23/2018 9:50 pm : link
Pugh was actually an adequate player WHEN he played. But he was always hurt.

No one embarrassed him like Barwin as far as I can remember.
Barwin would take a running start at Pugh ...  
Manny in CA : 7/23/2018 11:38 pm : link

Then knock him over like a bowling pin.
On paper,  
Doomster : 7/24/2018 7:26 am : link
he looks like a decent back up/rotational player......

Only question is at 32, does he have anything left?
RE: On paper,  
Big Blue '56 : 7/24/2018 7:32 am : link
In comment 14020002 Doomster said:
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he looks like a decent back up/rotational player......

Only question is at 32, does he have anything left?


Situationally, hes an upgrade. Will be 32 in mid-October. For 2 years? zero to lose imv
RE: On paper,  
Rory : 7/24/2018 7:40 am : link
In comment 14020002 Doomster said:
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he looks like a decent back up/rotational player......

Only question is at 32, does he have anything left?


uhh 32? Are you kidding me? of course he has something left.
Barwin  
bc4life : 7/24/2018 7:48 am : link
little history
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Hes a situational player,  
Brown Recluse : 7/24/2018 9:18 am : link
meaning hell only be on the field on certain situations.

Hes not a starter. Who cares if hes 32.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Cross Barwin off but crazy  
JamesStPatrick : 7/24/2018 10:49 am : link
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There are some good players available especially at safety. I would love Hankins back on a 1 year deal. That would provide great depth and allow Harrison, Tomlinson, Hill, Hankins, and Mauro to rotate to keep the line fresh through the season.




Hankins is awful.



Hankins is awful? Granted he is not an all-pro but he was a very good starter for the Giants. IIRC he was one of the only serviceable starters in 2015.

Barwin is a good pickup to add depth and a situational pass rusher, granted they don't ask him to do much more than to rush the passer. Fresh bodies to rush the passer in the 4th quarter is a good thing.


Yes, Hankins is very awful. One-dimensional, fatally-flawed player. A complete liability on defense.

It is why he remains unsigned despite:

1) 26 years old
2) healthy
3) no character concerns
4) plays a premiere position (D-Line)


Last offseason, Giants had zero interest in resigning him, and it took the Colts who had the worst D-Line in the league months into FA to sign him. Then they cut him in March, it's been 4 months later, and still unsigned.
RE: Diver  
JamesStPatrick : 7/24/2018 10:50 am : link
In comment 14019818 Eric from BBI said:
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Pugh was actually an adequate player WHEN he played. But he was always hurt.

No one embarrassed him like Barwin as far as I can remember.


Pugh sucked WHEN he played.

Gettleman didn't even place a call to Pugh's agent. Had less than zero interest of even wondering what his asking price was.

Pugh is small, has short arms, gets walked back into the pocket against big DTs, and cannot drive-block in the run game.
I like this move  
Paulie Walnuts : 7/24/2018 11:28 am : link
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RE: I like this move  
SGMen : 7/24/2018 11:45 am : link
In comment 14020288 Paulie Walnuts said:
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I like this move IF Barwin can still be a "pass rush specialist" at age 31. If we "hit" here and he has a season left in him, GREAT cause we only have one pass-rusher and that isn't enough. If he is "average" now but still better than what we have, well, its a "good" signing at least.

But what is also important is how much he can mentor guys like Carter, McIntosh (if healthy) and BJ Hill if not others. In reading posts, I get the impression he is a good lockerroom guy and will bring leadership to the defense. If he does only that very well, I mean, it is an "acceptable" signing at least for the money he got.

I'm praying for a bounce-back year and 8 sacks with good pressures and QB hits....hope that isn't asking too much for a 31 year old.
Good smart heady player ...  
Bluesbreaker : 7/24/2018 12:11 pm : link
He was a PITA against us but hey good vet signing !
He could kick in a pinch ? I think he was a Kicker before being drafted .
JamesStPatrick  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/24/2018 12:16 pm : link
We'll agree to disagree on that.

Pugh usually was solid. I think Gettleman didn't pay him because he didn't feel Pugh was worth the money, especially for a guy who year after year couldn't play 16 games.
Capable pass rusher and a tough SoB  
Torrag : 7/24/2018 12:26 pm : link
We're in need of both qualties and the cost was reasonable.
Agree. Pugh was a slightly above avg lineman mostly  
Jimmy Googs : 7/24/2018 12:26 pm : link
because of his versatility. Too injury prone though to bother resigning.
Pugh signed  
RollBlue : 7/24/2018 12:45 pm : link
a 5 year $45 million dollar contract just a few months ago. He's a good player, that proves it. As others have pointed out, injuries have been an issue.

People like to talk nostalgically about David Dheil. IMO, Pugh is better than DD was. However, for the most part, DD was on the field.
RE: Pugh signed  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 7/24/2018 12:51 pm : link
In comment 14020402 RollBlue said:
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a 5 year $45 million dollar contract just a few months ago. He's a good player, that proves it. As others have pointed out, injuries have been an issue.

People like to talk nostalgically about David Dheil. IMO, Pugh is better than DD was. However, for the most part, DD was on the field.


Servicable, unspectacular starter when healthy, but the Giants made the right decision.

Injured all the time. Seemed a bit soft, and disinterested in getting his injured ass back on the game.
My only concern is in the lockerroom  
VinegarPeppers : 7/24/2018 1:18 pm : link
Seems a tad on the outspoken side. Touch of renegade...but I don't really know. Who knows what to expect from him here?

He can be a dynamic edge rusher. 5 sacks for the Rams and didn't start to my knowledge. How many Giants had 5 sacks last season? Kenard had 5 and OV 6.5. JPP is gone.

Hope for the best.
Correction, Kennard had 4  
VinegarPeppers : 7/24/2018 1:18 pm : link
4.
I've certainly never liked Barwin  
mittenedman : 7/24/2018 1:29 pm : link
but this is Gettleman filling a hole.

Heading into camp the Giants had 1 edge rusher - Olivier Vernon. When they line up in a 40 front - and that will be a lot in subpackages - they had NOBODY to rush opposite OV.

Carter is not a "hand in the dirt" Edge Rusher.

Barwin will be the starting LDE in the subpackages and is not only an upgrade but a necessity, even if I don't personally like him. They really had nobody they could hang their hat on there
Using hyperbole..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/24/2018 2:05 pm : link
isn't going to make anyone's point any stronger.

Neither Pugh nor Hankins were terrible. Neither was worth the money, which is the exact thing people complain about with the contracts handed out to Snacks, Vernon and Jenkins.

There is a decision point on whether or not Pugh and Hankins were worth resigning and the answer was no. Pugh was too often injured and more of a versatile player than a dominant one and Hankins wanted too much money for his expected production.
RE: Pugh signed  
JamesStPatrick : 7/24/2018 4:40 pm : link
In comment 14020402 RollBlue said:
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a 5 year $45 million dollar contract just a few months ago. He's a good player, that proves it. As others have pointed out, injuries have been an issue.

People like to talk nostalgically about David Dheil. IMO, Pugh is better than DD was. However, for the most part, DD was on the field.


Have you seen the Arizona Cardinals O-Line?

That's a OL-desperate team who massively overpaid.
RE: Using hyperbole..  
JamesStPatrick : 7/24/2018 4:42 pm : link
In comment 14020513 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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isn't going to make anyone's point any stronger.

Neither Pugh nor Hankins were terrible. Neither was worth the money, which is the exact thing people complain about with the contracts handed out to Snacks, Vernon and Jenkins.

There is a decision point on whether or not Pugh and Hankins were worth resigning and the answer was no. Pugh was too often injured and more of a versatile player than a dominant one and Hankins wanted too much money for his expected production.



Hankins' NFL career is most likely over...at the age of 26.

He plays a premiere position on the D-Line. If nobody signed him by now, nobody will ever sign him.
Hankins will sign  
shyster : 7/24/2018 5:36 pm : link
He's not going to get the money he was looking for but he'll settle somewhere.

Linked is recent article that includes a comment about his agent, Kevin Poston.
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Nice get  
OC2.0 : 7/24/2018 5:42 pm : link
By DG on the cheap. Nice to have a competent GM.
Lord, microcosm of the Reese era  
ColHowPepper : 7/24/2018 6:35 pm : link
Giants pick Sintim, Barwin next pick up
This could be a good signing for depth, but....  
Fishmanjim57 : 7/24/2018 7:47 pm : link
Eric, please take that photo from the web page! I hate the Eagles so much, and seeing that uniform on the BBI front page is wretched.
Why hasn't this signing been reported?  
VinegarPeppers : 7/25/2018 11:38 am : link
Officially? No mention on the site, no mention during their noon webcast. Nothing official.

Physical pending or something?
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