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Giants sign Connor Barwin

nygiants16 : 7/23/2018 4:08 pm
according to ranaan
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Defenderdawg : 7/23/2018 4:09 pm : link
Jordan Raanan (@JordanRaanan)
7/23/18, 4:06 PM
The Giants are expected to sign veteran outside linebacker Connor Barwin, per source. Adds much-needed depth at the position and a quality veteran presence. Also has a strong relationship with LB coach Bill McGovern from their time together in Philadelphia.
Can't wait for his speeches to rile the troops up!  
Anakim : 7/23/2018 4:10 pm : link
That being said, dude was a pain in the ass to play against when he was with the Eagles.


But I'd like a FS like Tre Boston
Solid move  
BigBlue4You09 : 7/23/2018 4:11 pm : link
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Good character guy.....  
Ryan : 7/23/2018 4:12 pm : link
..might have a little left situationally. Hair should be a 4 game suspension.

I'd love to ask him if Pugh was doing his favorite team a favor opting not to block him often in that 27-0 embarrassment in '14.
he's an odd fish  
Rocky369 : 7/23/2018 4:14 pm : link
but did give us trouble while in PHI. Also had to have taken a steeply discounted rate considering the current cap projections are around $2M remaining.
He's a great  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/23/2018 4:16 pm : link
pickup to fill in while the one guy is out, and to be a situational pass rusher. Doesn't have to play every down every game.
Better 3-4 player than 4-3  
JonC : 7/23/2018 4:18 pm : link
Philly is normally pretty good at judging when to cut a player loose.
He'll be 32 in a few months, but he has had 2 double digit  
Ira : 7/23/2018 4:19 pm : link
sack seasons and one season with 10 pass defenses. Not a bad vet to have on the bench.
excellent move  
gtt350 : 7/23/2018 4:19 pm : link
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Good addition  
Jay on the Island : 7/23/2018 4:20 pm : link
Barwin had 5 sacks last season for the Rams. He could see some time as a situational pass rusher.
Actually - pd might be pass deflections.  
Ira : 7/23/2018 4:23 pm : link
I'm not sure.
I'm just going to say  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/23/2018 4:24 pm : link
Dave Te was all over this this morning - way before it broke
This is a tough one  
Matt in SGS : 7/23/2018 4:24 pm : link
he makes sense for the team but I hated the PISS out of this guy when he was on the Eagles. He killed the Giants. The look on his face. Not sure what he has left in the tank, but hell, if he wears Giants blue, I'm rooting for him.
RE: Good character guy.....  
mfsd : 7/23/2018 4:24 pm : link
In comment 14019425 Ryan said:
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..might have a little left situationally. Hair should be a 4 game suspension.

I'd love to ask him if Pugh was doing his favorite team a favor opting not to block him often in that 27-0 embarrassment in '14.


Hehe.

This feels like a move Bettcher was pushing for...for the reasons y'all cited, situational depth, 3-4 guy, veteran leadership
It's good to be able to rotate the front seven,  
Ira : 7/23/2018 4:24 pm : link
so this could be a big help.
Not sure  
Metnut : 7/23/2018 4:25 pm : link
what he has left in the tank. I'd have preferred another safety, but given our constant injuries at LB, it's never a bad idea to have a competent 6th or 7th LB on the roster.
Would prefer a vet MLB  
ZGiants98 : 7/23/2018 4:25 pm : link
But this is solid.
RE: Not sure  
ZGiants98 : 7/23/2018 4:26 pm : link
In comment 14019447 Metnut said:
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what he has left in the tank. I'd have preferred another safety, but given our constant injuries at LB, it's never a bad idea to have a competent 6th or 7th LB on the roster.


I think we are pretty full at safety. There’s no “star” opposite Collins but we have a lot of safeties that are likely at least “backup quality”. Not sure we need more of them.
One of us now  
Defenderdawg : 7/23/2018 4:28 pm : link
Connor Barwin (@ConnorBarwin98)
7/23/18, 4:17 PM
I’m excited to announce I’ve agreed to terms with the New York Football Giants. Let’s go G-Men
RE: Would prefer a vet MLB  
Jay on the Island : 7/23/2018 4:29 pm : link
In comment 14019448 ZGiants98 said:
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But this is solid.

I would be shocked if the Giants don't add a veteran ILB before the season. IMO the primary backup ILB isn't currently on the roster. Perhaps NaVorro Bowman who is still a free agent.
Wired  
Professor Falken : 7/23/2018 4:30 pm : link
last season with the Rams.
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Sign Odell and backload the deal year one by a bit...  
ZGiants98 : 7/23/2018 4:31 pm : link
Cut Jerry freeing up some more coin. Add Dez, DRC, Darkwa, N Bowman, and a vet swing OT all for close to the minimum. :)
RE: Would prefer a vet MLB  
JonC : 7/23/2018 4:31 pm : link
In comment 14019448 ZGiants98 said:
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But this is solid.


It's Ogletree if they run 4-3 looks.
RE: RE: Would prefer a vet MLB  
ZGiants98 : 7/23/2018 4:31 pm : link
In comment 14019455 Jay on the Island said:
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But this is solid.


I would be shocked if the Giants don't add a veteran ILB before the season. IMO the primary backup ILB isn't currently on the roster. Perhaps NaVorro Bowman who is still a free agent.


Ha just mentioned Bowman in my other post. ;)
RE: RE: Would prefer a vet MLB  
ZGiants98 : 7/23/2018 4:32 pm : link
In comment 14019460 JonC said:
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But this is solid.



It's Ogletree if they run 4-3 looks.


Huh? I’m referring to a backup over RayRay and Herzlich.
Philly take  
Defenderdawg : 7/23/2018 4:33 pm : link
“Throughout the Chip Kelly era, Barwin was one of the most valuable members in Billy Davis' 3-4 defense because of his versatility. Barwin could cover, rush the passer, and play the run, but was not a dominant player when doing any of those things.

In his first three seasons with the team, Barwin posted very good numbers overall. However, in Jim Schwartz's scheme, Barwin was asked to beat left tackles mano-e-mano, which was not his strength. Here were Barwin's numbers in his four years with the Eagles:

Connor Barwin Tackles Sacks FF Pass breakups / batted passes
2013 59 5 1 10
2014 64 14.5 2 5
2015 54 7 1 7
2016 34 5 1 2

Playing in a defensive scheme that has historically been very stat-friendly for defensive ends, Barwin posted the worst numbers of his Eagles career in 2016, across the board. Releasing him to save $7,750,000 in cap space during the 2017 offseason was a no-brainer decision.

In Barwin's next stop in Los Angeles with the Rams, in what seemed like a good match, he played in a 3-4 scheme under Wade Phillips, appearing in 14 games and starting 13. He had 34 tackles and 5 sacks.”

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You wrote MLB  
JonC : 7/23/2018 4:34 pm : link
there's two on the roster already, AO (according to Gettleman) and Goodson, if they want to run 4-3 looks.
This is an Eagles circa 2017 move  
adamg : 7/23/2018 4:36 pm : link
Loading up upfront. Good stuff.
RE: This is a tough one  
chopperhatch : 7/23/2018 4:37 pm : link
In comment 14019443 Matt in SGS said:
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he makes sense for the team but I hated the PISS out of this guy when he was on the Eagles. He killed the Giants. The look on his face. Not sure what he has left in the tank, but hell, if he wears Giants blue, I'm rooting for him.


I hated him too. He lives(think he does still actually live here) in the same neighborhood as I do here in Philly (Fishtown), and I have drank with him a few times(basically sat at the same bar and socialized with each other and other bar guests) and served him twice. He's kind of a turd. Pretty obnoxious when drunk (one time he was with Riley Cooper and that was particularly grating) and kind of smug when I waited on him.

But he does do a lot of charity work around here and is pretty principled. He drives a hybrid, very much into the greener side of things and became very attached to Philly in general. I dont see any of that happening in NY.
There's plenty of time to fill some holes on the roster  
yatqb : 7/23/2018 4:37 pm : link
given our waiver claim position. Barwin may or may not stick (anyone know if he signed at the vet minimum?) but I suspect that we'll have a number of players come in after cuts this year.

The bottom of the roster is still thin.
RE: You wrote MLB  
ZGiants98 : 7/23/2018 4:38 pm : link
In comment 14019467 JonC said:
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there's two on the roster already, AO (according to Gettleman) and Goodson, if they want to run 4-3 looks.


Ok I still don’t know what you mean but cool. I think we all know Ogletree and Goodson are the starters. Munson, Herzlich, RayRay, etc are backup MLB I’d like to upgrade off of. LB’s get injured often and I’d prefer not to see any of that group starting in 2018.
MLB is a 4-3 position  
JonC : 7/23/2018 4:39 pm : link
in a 3-4, there's two ILB positions, no MLB.
RE: RE: You wrote MLB  
adamg : 7/23/2018 4:39 pm : link
In comment 14019471 ZGiants98 said:
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there's two on the roster already, AO (according to Gettleman) and Goodson, if they want to run 4-3 looks.



Ok I still don’t know what you mean but cool. I think we all know Ogletree and Goodson are the starters. Munson, Herzlich, RayRay, etc are backup MLB I’d like to upgrade off of. LB’s get injured often and I’d prefer not to see any of that group starting in 2018.
He took your "MLB" to mean MLB in a 43. You mean ILB though. As in either ILB spot of the 34. Not MLB.
Ok got it.  
ZGiants98 : 7/23/2018 4:40 pm : link
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RE: MLB is a 4-3 position  
ZGiants98 : 7/23/2018 4:42 pm : link
In comment 14019472 JonC said:
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in a 3-4, there's two ILB positions, no MLB.


Lets put it this way. I want a backup vet MLB or ILB familiar with a running a LB unit (this happens in both 4-3 and 3-4.
Wow  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 7/23/2018 4:46 pm : link
So not a traditional Giant move. If he is playing situationally, I like it. Little risk, fair upside.
Good dude in the locker room and off the field  
jlukes : 7/23/2018 4:46 pm : link
always good to have vets like this when you are in a year with a new coaching staff
One dimensional player  
since1925 : 7/23/2018 4:49 pm : link
Pass rushing specialist.

Very good guy. Intelligent. Solid citizen. At the right number a good addition.
RE: RE: This is a tough one  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/23/2018 4:51 pm : link
In comment 14019469 chopperhatch said:
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he makes sense for the team but I hated the PISS out of this guy when he was on the Eagles. He killed the Giants. The look on his face. Not sure what he has left in the tank, but hell, if he wears Giants blue, I'm rooting for him.



I hated him too. He lives(think he does still actually live here) in the same neighborhood as I do here in Philly (Fishtown), and I have drank with him a few times(basically sat at the same bar and socialized with each other and other bar guests) and served him twice. He's kind of a turd. Pretty obnoxious when drunk (one time he was with Riley Cooper and that was particularly grating) and kind of smug when I waited on him.

But he does do a lot of charity work around here and is pretty principled. He drives a hybrid, very much into the greener side of things and became very attached to Philly in general. I dont see any of that happening in NY.


I'm in Fishtown as well. My co-workers boyfriend is Riley Coopers Attorney, and is friends with him Lane Johnson, and Barwin. I could careless though!
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Toth029 : 7/23/2018 4:53 pm : link
Decent depth. More pass rushers can't hurt.
Ryan your response  
joeinpa : 7/23/2018 4:54 pm : link
Made me laugh out loud.
RE: One dimensional player  
BigBlue4You09 : 7/23/2018 4:54 pm : link
In comment 14019483 since1925 said:
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Pass rushing specialist.

Very good guy. Intelligent. Solid citizen. At the right number a good addition.


I assume it's a low risk move. He's been on the market a while and we don't have much room...
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chopperhatch : 7/23/2018 4:55 pm : link
In comment 14019488 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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he makes sense for the team but I hated the PISS out of this guy when he was on the Eagles. He killed the Giants. The look on his face. Not sure what he has left in the tank, but hell, if he wears Giants blue, I'm rooting for him.



I hated him too. He lives(think he does still actually live here) in the same neighborhood as I do here in Philly (Fishtown), and I have drank with him a few times(basically sat at the same bar and socialized with each other and other bar guests) and served him twice. He's kind of a turd. Pretty obnoxious when drunk (one time he was with Riley Cooper and that was particularly grating) and kind of smug when I waited on him.

But he does do a lot of charity work around here and is pretty principled. He drives a hybrid, very much into the greener side of things and became very attached to Philly in general. I dont see any of that happening in NY.



I'm in Fishtown as well. My co-workers boyfriend is Riley Coopers Attorney, and is friends with him Lane Johnson, and Barwin. I could careless though!


Ahh, no shit! We should get together for a game some time. Where do you usually watch them?
Good call from this morning  
BigBlue4You09 : 7/23/2018 4:57 pm : link
In comment 14018992 nflscouting said:
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Giants & Philadelphia are very interested in another ex-Ram, Connor Barwin. If Big Blue gets him, expect it to be to mentor Lorenzo Carter, a player Bechter has been very high on. Bechter tried to get Arizona to snatch Barwin before the Rams signed him to play out of position in 2016. Philly wants him to remain an OLB but Giants see him as an edge rusher
I hate this  
McNally's_Nuts : 7/23/2018 4:57 pm : link
guy.

But I’ll be rooting for him.
Cross Barwin off but crazy  
ZGiants98 : 7/23/2018 4:58 pm : link
How many vets are left.
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RE: RE: RE: RE: This is a tough one  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 7/23/2018 5:00 pm : link
In comment 14019492 chopperhatch said:
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he makes sense for the team but I hated the PISS out of this guy when he was on the Eagles. He killed the Giants. The look on his face. Not sure what he has left in the tank, but hell, if he wears Giants blue, I'm rooting for him.



I hated him too. He lives(think he does still actually live here) in the same neighborhood as I do here in Philly (Fishtown), and I have drank with him a few times(basically sat at the same bar and socialized with each other and other bar guests) and served him twice. He's kind of a turd. Pretty obnoxious when drunk (one time he was with Riley Cooper and that was particularly grating) and kind of smug when I waited on him.

But he does do a lot of charity work around here and is pretty principled. He drives a hybrid, very much into the greener side of things and became very attached to Philly in general. I dont see any of that happening in NY.



I'm in Fishtown as well. My co-workers boyfriend is Riley Coopers Attorney, and is friends with him Lane Johnson, and Barwin. I could careless though!



Ahh, no shit! We should get together for a game some time. Where do you usually watch them?


I got a slingbox setup at my parents house, so I don't need to leave the house to watch which came in handy last season.

I live 2 blocks from the Memphis Taproom, so that's a go to spot.

I like to do some drinking at El Camino across from the Piazza.
RE: Cross Barwin off but crazy  
Jay on the Island : 7/23/2018 5:02 pm : link
In comment 14019499 ZGiants98 said:
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How many vets are left. Link - ( New Window )

There are some good players available especially at safety. I would love Hankins back on a 1 year deal. That would provide great depth and allow Harrison, Tomlinson, Hill, Hankins, and Mauro to rotate to keep the line fresh through the season.
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Ryan in Albany : 7/23/2018 5:02 pm : link
From a thorn in our side to a thorn on our rose.

Good move!
I liked Barwin in the draft  
Milton : 7/23/2018 5:10 pm : link
I keep waiting to read about them adding a veteran WR. Would also love to see them bring back Darkwa.
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