Offensive Line Coach Hal Hunter
August 4, 2018
Q: What do you see from Ereck Flowers so far at right tackle?
A: The number one thing I see is heís had a great attitude. I think before you do anything in terms of trying to develop a player, if youíve got great attitude, then youíre going to approach it the right way. He came back in OTAs and he had great attitude, the first thing I noticed when he came back, he was the lightest heís been since heís reported, he came back in great shape. We did the conditioning test, great shape. So all of a sudden, the first thing he does, he makes a great impression. He has his weight under control, right where you want it to be, strong in the weight room, in good condition. Itís been hot outside, he doesnít bat an eye. He goes and goes and goes. Heís been great in the meeting room, a little bit of the Socratic method in there, so weíre watching tape this morning and Iíll fire a question to this guy, fire a question to that guy, I fired two questions at him today and he had the answers, one, two, engaged in the meeting, that shows a lot. The number one thing that Iíve been really pleased with is his attitude, itís all a fresh slate, and Iíve never even coached him. When I was in Indianapolis we interviewed him at the combine, he had a great interview. We picked too far down in the draft, we didnít get a chance but we would have picked him. Weíve had great conversations. I talked to him a couple times in the offseason; he was great in OTAs. I talked to him this summer, I donít like to bug those guys but I always call them once a summer, we had a great conversation this summer, he told me his weight was under control and he was in shape and heís ready to go. He showed up, his weight was under control, he was in shape and heís ready to go. Heís had the right attitude. Thatís the thing, when you donít have to worry about a guyís attitude, then you just coach. Heís been very responsive, my technique is a little bit different, he tries to the best of his ability to do exactly what I want him to do and doesnít bat an eye, and if I ask him to do it again, heíll do it again. So, again, itís like anything. When youíre trying to coach any player, like anything weíve ever done, sometimes you have to erase that tape to start with a blank tape, so weíre working on things and heís making good progress. Thereís a lot of technical things to work on, run and pass, and everything is completely opposite at the right tackle position than the left.
Q: Is he being blessed by moving from left to right tackle?
A: I donít know, I donít know if heís being blessed from moving from left to right because honestly it used to be, in the old days, you had a big, strong right tackle and you had a pass protecting left tackle, every team had one good pass rusher. I think one of the first teams that really broke that were the Indianapolis Colts when they had Mathis on one side and Freeney at the other. Now the way people do it, theyíll move a good pass rusher to the other side. When I was in San Diego, theyíre going to take Von Miller and move him over Jeromey Clary, so youíre going to find work wherever you go. Iím not sure, maybe itís a fresh start, he would answer that question better than me. The only thing that makes a difference is if youíve got a right-handed quarterback who is always in a right-handed stance but nowadays those quarterbacks have a lot of savvy with those things.
Q: At center, Brett Jones stepped in and started a lot of games last year and I think by a lot of accounts played pretty well, what have you guys seen in Halapio that made you say ďwe may want him to beĒ, it looks like you want him to be the first string center over a guy like Brett?
A: When I first went in the meeting room, this is what I told the guys. This is way back in OTAs and I always say it again at the beginning of camp Ė the best players have to play. We all watch the same tape, we all know who the best players are. Who are the best players? The players that play the best, itís as simple as that. Everybody that sits in that offensive line room, whether youíre an eight-year vet, whether youíve been with this organization a long time, whether you havenít, everybody has the same opportunity to make the team and establish themselves. My goal as a coach is to coach every single guy -- we have 16 guys in that room -- to coach every single one of those guys to the best of my ability to make them the best player they can possibly be and let them decide whoís going to play. I donít really want to decide who is going to be the starter. I want to coach them technically and mentally so that they can go out there to compete in practice and compete in the preseason games to win a position themselves and take it out of my hands. Any player that ever walks away, that doesnít make the team, that doesnít get a chance to start, theyíll never look back and say, ďthe coach didnít give me enough reps, he didnít give me an opportunityĒ, because we give all those guys an opportunity. The bottom line is practice is practice, drills are drills, some drills weigh to the offense, some drills weigh to the defense, 11 on 11 is the closest thing. But games are games and until you go out there and do something in an actual NFL football game, you never know. Brett Jones has been great, heís got a great attitude, heís in really good shape, heís been really productive, weíve worked him with the first group, he looks really good. Halapio is in great shape, heís been really productive. Let these guys play in the preseason games, let them sort it out and let the best man win. I mean, honestly, I really donít care which one of those guys, I want the best guy. Theyíre both great guys, I love coaching them both. Whoever is the best player, we will let them go (start). There does come a time with the offensive line where you have to establish those five guys because they have to work together, thatís so fundamental at this position.
Q: What have you seen from G John Jerry?
A: Heís had a great attitude. He came in, made his weight goal Ė this is the lightest heís been since Iíve been here. Heís got a great attitude. He practices hard, physical. Iíve been really, really pleasantly surprised with him. Heís really stood out. Heís been one of the real standouts. Heís done a lot of good things. His attitude is great. Heís a veteran, too, he understands football. Heís a tough, physical, big, strong guy. Iím really pleased with how heís practiced. He stood out to me. He captured my attention early, and he continues to.
Q: Would it be fair to say you really donít know what you have until you play Cleveland or until you play Detroit?
A: Weíve got a pretty competitive front up front. Iíll you what Ė you look at some of this edge Ė (defensive lineman Olivier Vernon) OV coming off the edge. Iíve seen a lot of pass rushing. I think heís as good as there is in the league. Whoís the best Ė Iím amazed. Heís got power, heís got speed. He can go speed to power, power to speed. Heís really, really good. Heís testing (T) Nate Solder now. Heís really testing him. We get tested all across the front. I donít know if youíre going to find a better nose tackle than (Damon Harrison Sr.) Snacks. If you can block him, you can block anybody. The defensive front is pretty salty now. A game is a game Ė and when you get into a game, thatís when you either shine or Ė again, weíll see how [Halapio] works in the game. Weíll see how Brett Jones works in the game. Theyíll go play through the preseason, then weíll make our decision.
Q: Did you have a lot of tape on the centers coming into this year?
A: They had a couple of snaps a long time ago. But, I didnít have a lot. Iíve seen a lot of good offensive linemen, you can put a ball in their hand, and they become Ė itís hard. They become debilitated. But, he kind of took to it a little naturally, and so we continued to work with him there. Heís really excelled at that position. Some guys have a knack for it. To play center, you have to be smart. If youíre going to play center, youíve got to be tough because youíve got some 400-pound guy right there every single snap right there in your face, and it ainít easy. The thing that I like about both those guys, theyíre both smart, theyíre both tough, they both have really good work ethic. Weíre just working on the fundamentals.
A: There always has to be competition. I think Pat (Shurmur) always says iron sharpens iron. I really believe that, because Iím from that old school too. Again, itís a competition the way it started out Ė just two guys competing. Youíve got to find some guys that can compete at center. When the previous center Ė I really had no relationship with him Ė when he went to San Francisco, then all of a sudden now you got all these Ė youíre always coaching two offensive lines. Youíre coaching the guys that are playing, and the guys that are going to be playing. Youíre not going the entire season playing the same line. So, whoís going to be that other center? Whoís going to be that other center thatís going to be in there? You start coaching one, then all of sudden he starts playing good. Now all of a sudden, he took naturally to the position. We tried a couple of other guys at center, and theyíre just not in the same category there. After a while, I think when you find a guy thatís smart, plays with balance, can move in both directions, can play with pad level, and then he can throw that brown thing between his legs, youíve got to try that guy at center. Hardest position to find is not left tackle. The hardest position to find in this league is center. Itís center, then left tackle.
Q: How big of a part do you want the offensive line to play in regards to the run game?
A: A huge part of it. With the offensive line, the number one element in the running game is the runner, it always has been. You canít win in the NFL if you canít run the football, itís as simple as that. You just canít do it. The hardest thing to do in football is run the ball. Itís really hard Ė defenses are getting bigger and stronger. Theyíre playing more eight-man fronts. But, the number one thing is we have to have a lot of physicality. Weíve got to play with a lot of technique and fundamentals, and weíve got to conceptually understand whatís going on. The more we can establish the running game, the more pressure it takes off the quarterback. Weíve got to keep that pocket clean. Weíve got to keep that quarterback clean. If that quarterback is clean, then that quarterback is special. Weíve got to keep him upright and keep him from being harassed. In terms of running the ball, some of the best offense Ė we had a great quarterback in San Diego. He was great because we could run the ball with (RB LaDainian Tomlinson) LT. We had a good quarterback in Indianapolis, but we could run the ball with (RB) Frank Gore. And so again, to have a good offense, weíve got to be able to run the football and make them defend the run, and then also be able to protect that quarterback. So, itís all encompassing.
You're not gonna know anything about blocking until they can actually hit.
And he said that very plainly.
Its like saying a girl is a "nice person".
how do you reconcile that?