NFT: New York Yankees @ Chicago White Sox - 8:10 - Game 2

Just stack the Ws.

Torres and Stanton. Don't like Stanton in the 2 hole. I don't like Judge there either. I would prefer Hicks, Torres, Judge, Stanton, Bird, etc... Torres is the guy that will be the .300 hitter. Very good bat control, good eye, power when he wants it, compacts his swing at 2 strikes...

In comment 14031911 section125 said:

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Torres and Stanton. Don't like Stanton in the 2 hole. I don't like Judge there either. I would prefer Hicks, Torres, Judge, Stanton, Bird, etc... Torres is the guy that will be the .300 hitter. Very good bat control, good eye, power when he wants it, compacts his swing at 2 strikes...

I think Torres should be in the 2 hole. Something like...

Hicks (CF)
Torres (2B)
Judge (RF)
Stanton (DH)
Miggy (3B)
Bird (1B)
Didi (SS)
Sanchez (C)
Gardner (LF)

Obviously a few things you can do there - but I'd love to see Hicks/Gleyber as the 1-2 before Judge and Stanton when we're healthy.

In comment 14031911 section125 said:

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Torres and Stanton. Don't like Stanton in the 2 hole. I don't like Judge there either. I would prefer Hicks, Torres, Judge, Stanton, Bird, etc... Torres is the guy that will be the .300 hitter. Very good bat control, good eye, power when he wants it, compacts his swing at 2 strikes...

It's about maximizing most ABs and most ABs with runners on for the best hitter--that's why a lot of teams now hit their best hitters second. (At least that's my understanding.)

In comment 14031916 Mike from SI said:

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In comment 14031911 section125 said: Quote: Torres and Stanton. Don't like Stanton in the 2 hole. I don't like Judge there either. I would prefer Hicks, Torres, Judge, Stanton, Bird, etc... Torres is the guy that will be the .300 hitter. Very good bat control, good eye, power when he wants it, compacts his swing at 2 strikes... It's about maximizing most ABs and most ABs with runners on for the best hitter--that's why a lot of teams now hit their best hitters second. (At least that's my understanding.)

Yeah I understand that, but I'd rather Stanton to protect Judge and get both more runners on base ahead of them.

If they can keep plate discipline, Lopez is going to get hurt badly when he leaves one in the zone. He should anyway.

and he's shown he can hit for power. He should be batting 4th or 5th.

I would prefer to bat Judge 3rd behind Stanton, but I have no problem with him batting 2nd.

In comment 14031915 arcarsenal said:

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In comment 14031911 section125 said: Quote: Torres and Stanton. Don't like Stanton in the 2 hole. I don't like Judge there either. I would prefer Hicks, Torres, Judge, Stanton, Bird, etc... Torres is the guy that will be the .300 hitter. Very good bat control, good eye, power when he wants it, compacts his swing at 2 strikes... I think Torres should be in the 2 hole. Something like... Hicks (CF) Torres (2B) Judge (RF) Stanton (DH) Miggy (3B) Bird (1B) Didi (SS) Sanchez (C) Gardner (LF) Obviously a few things you can do there - but I'd love to see Hicks/Gleyber as the 1-2 before Judge and Stanton when we're healthy.

I think Sanchez should be higher. Maybe something like:

Hicks
Torres
Judge
Stanton
Sanchez
Bird
Andujar
Didi
Gardner

It's definitely much more fun to think of lineups that have both Judge and Sanchez in them compared to our everyday now though.

I want to see confidence and constistancy in the at bats.

In comment 14031949 adamg said:

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In comment 14031915 arcarsenal said: Quote: In comment 14031911 section125 said: Quote: Torres and Stanton. Don't like Stanton in the 2 hole. I don't like Judge there either. I would prefer Hicks, Torres, Judge, Stanton, Bird, etc... Torres is the guy that will be the .300 hitter. Very good bat control, good eye, power when he wants it, compacts his swing at 2 strikes... I think Torres should be in the 2 hole. Something like... Hicks (CF) Torres (2B) Judge (RF) Stanton (DH) Miggy (3B) Bird (1B) Didi (SS) Sanchez (C) Gardner (LF) Obviously a few things you can do there - but I'd love to see Hicks/Gleyber as the 1-2 before Judge and Stanton when we're healthy. I think Sanchez should be higher. Maybe something like: Hicks Torres Judge Stanton Sanchez Bird Andujar Didi Gardner It's definitely much more fun to think of lineups that have both Judge and Sanchez in them compared to our everyday now though.

If El Gary gets his mojo back, absolutely - this is really the .217 version I'm penciling in there, but if he comes back and starts hitting like he has in the past, obviously you have to push that bat up a few spots.

Excellent lineup when Judge and Sanchez are healthy, though - just gotta get those guys back. Especially Judge. His presence is definitely missed right now - you can feel the hole in the lineup where 99 should be.

Judge is the heart of this team.

Hicks
Torres
Judge
Stanton
Sanchez
Bird
Andujar
Didi
Gardner


That is if Boone/management actually plays guys and doesn't give guys days off just because. Also, most teams don't like having lefty lefty in their lineup like Didi and Gardner or having 3 of the last 4 batters bat lefty.

Something like this would be more likely:

Hicks
Torres
Judge
Stanton
Didi
Sanchez
Bird
Andujar
Gardner

Fuck is going on with this lineup tonight.


Wow robbed

Fuck that guy

Offense needs to wake up. Lopez has been awful lately.

In other MLB News...

Matt Carpenter homered again tonight. I believe that's 15 since July 1st. He's hitting like .340 with a 1.200+ OPS in that span.

This guy had a .579 OPS at the end of April and now he leads the entire NL with a .984 OPS.

Insane turnaround.

And as I am typing this, fucking Engel steals ANOTHER HR from us... and does another fucking hat salute afterwards.

Unbelievable.

Fuck is going on with this lineup tonight.


Wow robbed

They could call that every play

the 5th with another Engel robbed HR.

Awful at bats against another scrub pitcher.

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They could call that every play

Not bogus at all. It only gets called if you interfere with the throw..

Now he gets a bunt single. I can't stand this guy.

Ugh.

strikes in the strike zone. Then the very next pitch a strike.
Instead of strike em out throw em out DP 1st and 2nd no out.

Umpiring is god awful in MLB.

lol smh

We need a fucking hit.

But CC got squeezed on that pitch earlier and screwed out of a strike him out/throw him out double play.

Nice bounce back to get out of the inning but that call cost him some valuable pitches.

One

fell in.

Aaron Hicks <3

Excellent play there.

what a heady play

faking to go home made the third baseman flinch and Stanton safe.

Holy crap. Are we really not going to score now?

This is insane.

not swing at a pitch over your head - it is alright to get a walk....

How the fuck do you pop the ball up twice with a giy on third where you cant get him in?

Fucking situational hitting on this team is a disgrace.

In comment 14032045 arcarsenal said:

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Holy crap. Are we really not going to score now? This is insane.

Nope.

1st and 3rd no out and they probably won't score.

slump yeah..but really

Nauseating. Reynaldo Lopez has been terrible lately. This can't happen.

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It's one thing if it's Walker, Higgy, Robinson or something....

No hitting

From Didi and Torres are atrocious.

decreed by Cashman as the best hitter in the organization? Swings at a pitch that was never a strike and traveled 58 feet.
3 of the worst at bats by people considered good hitters...

because he’s cheating since he can’t catch up to a fastball.

If he doesn’t get it together soon it could be an issue for them.

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not swing at a pitch over your head - it is alright to get a walk....

Yeah that's the key AB in the inning. He gets the run home it takes the pressure off of everyone following him and puts more on Lopez.

I get wanting a pitch up so you can drive it to the outfield for at worst a sac fly, but he's got to lay off one that high.

In comment 14032061 Eman11 said:

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In comment 14032046 section125 said: Quote: not swing at a pitch over your head - it is alright to get a walk.... Yeah that's the key AB in the inning. He gets the run home it takes the pressure off of everyone following him and puts more on Lopez. I get wanting a pitch up so you can drive it to the outfield for at worst a sac fly, but he's got to lay off one that high.

Didi is a low ball hitter as are most lefties. He had no business swinging at that pitch. No plate discipline.

In comment 14032063 section125 said:

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In comment 14032061 Eman11 said: Quote: In comment 14032046 section125 said: Quote: not swing at a pitch over your head - it is alright to get a walk.... Yeah that's the key AB in the inning. He gets the run home it takes the pressure off of everyone following him and puts more on Lopez. I get wanting a pitch up so you can drive it to the outfield for at worst a sac fly, but he's got to lay off one that high. Didi is a low ball hitter as are most lefties. He had no business swinging at that pitch. No plate discipline.

This tram offensively is torture to watch lately

In comment 14032063 section125 said:

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In comment 14032061 Eman11 said: Quote: In comment 14032046 section125 said: Quote: not swing at a pitch over your head - it is alright to get a walk.... Yeah that's the key AB in the inning. He gets the run home it takes the pressure off of everyone following him and puts more on Lopez. I get wanting a pitch up so you can drive it to the outfield for at worst a sac fly, but he's got to lay off one that high. Didi is a low ball hitter as are most lefties. He had no business swinging at that pitch. No plate discipline.

Agreed. In that spot you have to up your plate discipline. It's the pitcher who's in trouble, and you can't help him out. Just zone a pitch and let it rip. If it's not there, let it go.

Miiiiggggggyyyyyyyyyy!

For Andujar

pitch to hit it in the seats. Sometimes it works.

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in the 10th. Fuckin team.

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I can't stand this fucking guy

defensive outfielder.

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in the 10th. Fuckin team.

Then Bradley of all people hits a two run shot. Both off of Giles,who sucks big time.

Dellin

Just maybe the Bird experiment has failed? This is no longer a small sample size, it is trending towards the norm.

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Just maybe the Bird experiment has failed? This is no longer a small sample size, it is trending towards the norm.

No.

looks like Holder is coming in for the 9th...

In comment 14032094 LarmerTJR said:

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Just maybe the Bird experiment has failed? This is no longer a small sample size, it is trending towards the norm.

Bird has been one of our best hitters of late.

However, my hopes of consistent and confident at bats were dashed quickly.

Is not a flute. And a donut with no hole, is a Danish.

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Stanton!!

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In comment 14032113 bigbluehoya said:

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Is not a flute. And a donut with no hole, is a Danish.

On call, he serves up a munchkin!

Chop

Not really.

Hitting .200 the last two weeks, and him being “hot” is .244 with 4 HRs over the last month. And, he the stats show he is really having trouble with fastballs. And it’s getting worst, not better.

When he’s on, he looks great, but extended lengths of ineptitude and numerous injuries make it hard to expect anything consistent going forward. It seems like he “just got back” in the line up, but he now has the most plate appearances he has ever made in a season.

In comment 14032108 chopperhatch said:

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In comment 14032094 LarmerTJR said: Quote: Just maybe the Bird experiment has failed? This is no longer a small sample size, it is trending towards the norm. Bird has been one of our best hitters of late. However, my hopes of consistent and confident at bats were dashed quickly.

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Utterly incredible.

fook

meltdown just when I was getting ready to go to bed.

We just can't get it together....the White Sox are horrible and here we are MAYBE going to extras

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meltdown just when I was getting ready to go to bed.

Me too. I literally said right before he hit it "okay, close it out so I can sleep"

In comment 14032121 LarmerTJR said:

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Chop Not really. Hitting .200 the last two weeks, and him being “hot” is .244 with 4 HRs over the last month. And, he the stats show he is really having trouble with fastballs. And it’s getting worst, not better. When he’s on, he looks great, but extended lengths of ineptitude and numerous injuries make it hard to expect anything consistent going forward. It seems like he “just got back” in the line up, but he now has the most plate appearances he has ever made in a season. In comment 14032108 chopperhatch said: Quote: In comment 14032094 LarmerTJR said: Quote: Just maybe the Bird experiment has failed? This is no longer a small sample size, it is trending towards the norm. Bird has been one of our best hitters of late. However, my hopes of consistent and confident at bats were dashed quickly.

I don't see him having trouble with all fastballs. It's the ones up/up and away he can't catch up to or lay off of. If he wouldn't chase those, his numbers on fastballs wouldn't look as bad.

We need this struggling ass offense to squeeze across another run

The only guy in this awful fucking lineup that can beat you and you throw him a meatball with a lefty on deck. Un fucking real

lineup seems to be struggling. Nobody seems to have a good approach at the plate. I'm sorry, but at this point it's time to start playing some small ball......hit & run, bunt, put guys in motion. Watching these guys pop up and hit weak ground balls is getting old. Make something happen out there.

Eman

Take a quick read of this write up on Bird.

I added the link.


In comment 14032129 Eman11 said:

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In comment 14032121 LarmerTJR said: Quote: Chop Not really. Hitting .200 the last two weeks, and him being “hot” is .244 with 4 HRs over the last month. And, he the stats show he is really having trouble with fastballs. And it’s getting worst, not better. When he’s on, he looks great, but extended lengths of ineptitude and numerous injuries make it hard to expect anything consistent going forward. It seems like he “just got back” in the line up, but he now has the most plate appearances he has ever made in a season. In comment 14032108 chopperhatch said: Quote: In comment 14032094 LarmerTJR said: Quote: Just maybe the Bird experiment has failed? This is no longer a small sample size, it is trending towards the norm. Bird has been one of our best hitters of late. However, my hopes of consistent and confident at bats were dashed quickly. I don't see him having trouble with all fastballs. It's the ones up/up and away he can't catch up to or lay off of. If he wouldn't chase those, his numbers on fastballs wouldn't look as bad.

Bird - ( New Window )

The guy is not a major leaguer, and I'd take a struggling Bird vs a lefty every time over him in extras. Now we've weakened our D taboot.

sonny fuckin gray.

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This team is cracking me up a bunch recently.

In comment 14032138 bceagle05 said:

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I was trying to figure out the reliever we had out there until I saw that stupid little weasel face of his.

might as well bring in Sonny Gray. He'll probably be great tonight.

For not immediately losing the game

Toe back. Maybe light a fire under these guys.

Please get out of this mess.

Obviously Gray's thinking....

I don't know what the hell he's thinking!"

Please score a run.

Can 4 straight guys lean into pitches?

Was last year...this group is infuriating.

done.

4-3

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Please close it out Sonny

In comment 14032153 shockeyisthebest8056 said:

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done. 4-3

I was shocked no question. I'm not sure why you'd ever throw him a change up when he can't hit a curve and has trouble with fastballs too. Brilliant pitching to give him something he can handle but I'll take the gift thank you very much.

Sonny just needs to lock this down now, and get us the win.

to close it out?

ONE MORE OUT. ONE MORE OUT.

In comment 14032157 Matt M. said:

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to close it out?

Apparently needs extra time off after throwing almost 40 pitches in BOS.

but we'll take it

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didn't go out to the pen and mope. He saved our bacon tonight after Britton shit the bed.

In comment 14032157 Matt M. said:

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to close it out?

39 tough pitches vs the Sox Sunday night. He'll be good to go tomorrow no doubt.

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In comment 14032164 Stu11 said:

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didn't go out to the pen and mope. He saved our bacon tonight after Britton shit the bed.

Agreed. Tip of the cap to him and hopefully this gives him some confidence and something to build on. I have a feeling we're gonna need him some more before the season's done.

In comment 14032165 Eman11 said:

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In comment 14032157 Matt M. said: Quote: to close it out? 39 tough pitches vs the Sox Sunday night. He'll be good to go tomorrow no doubt.

2 nights ago after not throwing for a few days.

In comment 14032168 Matt M. said:

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In comment 14032165 Eman11 said: Quote: In comment 14032157 Matt M. said: Quote: to close it out? 39 tough pitches vs the Sox Sunday night. He'll be good to go tomorrow no doubt. 2 nights ago after not throwing for a few days.

Yeah but the days off before don't help when he throws two games worth of pitches in one game,and all in high leverage situations too.

I'm sure if he threw half as many Sunday night, he'd have been in there tonight. 39 big pitches is a lot for a closer.

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We don't play a .500 team for the next three and a half weeks. We can win ugly as long as we win, and we start putting distance between us and the teams fighting for the second wildcard.

his curve looked really sharp last night and I appreciated the emotion shown after getting the final out.

It's a grind right now, these aren't pretty wins, but they just need to find a way to get that winning feeling back.

Time for Severino to get back on track tonight and give the bullpen a rest. This is a good team to do it against.

I'm happy for Gray - maybe this is a better niche for him and he'll help us down the stretch. We really won that game because of him and the length he was able to provide out of the pen at that point in the game. I was pretty pissed about the laughing when he walked off the mound following that embarrassment vs BAL, but it was hard not to get pumped for him after he got that last out last night.

I'm mildly concerned about Chappy's knee. Might be barking again (or just didn't really stop). It's obvious that they're avoiding using him when they think they can get him a night off and 2 of his last 5 outings have been rough. Hopefully he's fine - as good as the pen is, he's still a vital piece.

Frustrating fucking game but hey, the win counts all the same. Let's bring out the brooms tonight.

They simply need wins, period, to stay afloat until Sanchez and Judge return.

and I'm glad it worked out well for Sonny. Chances are very good that we will need him in some role down the stretch, most likely starting because its doubtful we will keep everyone healthy or not at least want to rest someone for a start or 2. This team has to change their offensive approach though. I guess it may not be possible at this point due to guys set in their ways, but we simply will have a hard time competing in big playoff games letting starters sit at 80 pitches in the 7th or 8th. We are swinging from the heels way too much. Like I said it may be a moot point but something needs to give. Judge will help that as he's very patient. For anyone who wants to put him out to pasture, Gardy is so valuable. First of all he's a CF playing LF and especially late in the game in a big spot we have no better guy at working counts and putting up a great AB.