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Role player from the past?

BillyM : 8/8/2018 11:52 am

If you could have one, non-pro bowler from the past, right now, to add to our roster, who would it be?

I feel like this team improved upon its character from last year but remains light on depth at a handful of spots.

Who's your glue guy of choice.

My choice...Maurice Carthon. High character guy who helped Hershel Walker with the Generals and catapulted Joe Morris' career. Equally, he was durable as hell. His blocking style would be a huge help to this offensive line and he'd be a big time mentor for Saquon right now.

To me, he would help the team return to power football in a big time way.

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I'm not sure I would say

crackerjack465 : 8/8/2018 12:17 pm : link

Plax/K-Mac are role players.

I'll go with Deon Grant or RW McQuarters.

If RP is a non starter

Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/8/2018 12:19 pm : link

Throw in Mowatt and Meggett.

Always

larryinnewhaven : 8/8/2018 12:21 pm : link

loved Chase Blackburn

Role Player

BillyM : 8/8/2018 12:23 pm : link

Definitely was going with more the true role player, versus non pro bowler.

Deon Grant??

OdellBeckhamJr : 8/8/2018 12:50 pm : link

I thought he was pretty good for us, same with Chase Blackburn!

amazing to me that plax never made a pro bowl

Knee of Theismann : 8/8/2018 12:51 pm : link

2002 (with Steelers), 2005, and 2007 he had pro bowl-like numbers.

In those years he averaged somewhere in the ballpark like 70-75 catches, 1200 yards, 10 TDs.

R.W McQuarters or Sam Madison

beatrixkiddo : 8/8/2018 12:51 pm : link

R.W just so I could lose a few more years off my life watching his punt return decisions.

Grant and RW are good choices

Sonic Youth : 8/8/2018 12:56 pm : link

I was thinking of a CB or S and don't know how I didn't think of them.

Blackburn is alright but I'd rather have the other two (or Hixon).

Madison was a starter - I really don't think he was a role player at all. Besides, didn't he make a pro bowl (with the Dolphins)?

Charles Way on offense

Les in TO : 8/8/2018 1:02 pm : link

Kenny Phillips on defense

You guys do realize that "role players"

chopperhatch : 8/8/2018 1:14 pm : link

Are guys that are not starters or for some positions even 2 on the depth chart right? Sure, a role player might be forced to start. But the only ones that I saw that are really fits are Reyna and Tyree. You could throw D. Hixon in there. I think you could classify Megget as a role player. Maybe Blackburn. Dave Tolleffson.

Kareem MacKenzie, Antonio Pierce, Rich Seubert and O'Hara were NOT role players. Those were starters. Just saying.

Dan Campbell is probably another one.

RE: R.W McQuarters or Sam Madison

chopperhatch : 8/8/2018 1:14 pm : link

In comment 14032496 beatrixkiddo said:

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R.W just so I could lose a few more years off my life watching his punt return decisions.

McQ is a good one.

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Toth029 : 8/8/2018 1:19 pm : link

A Deon Grant comes to mind too. Esp for Nickel and dime packages.

RE: Charles Way on offense

Boy Cord : 8/8/2018 1:23 pm : link

In comment 14032504 Les in TO said:

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Kenny Phillips on defense

Kenny Phillips. Damn the Giants have lost some great young talent to injuries, primarily DBs and WRs.

Two RB's

fanofthejets : 8/8/2018 1:30 pm : link

Always liked Charles Way and Keith Elias. Way wore those massive shoulder pads and an offensive linemens facemask. Reminded me of Christian Okoye

Domenik

mittenedman : 8/8/2018 1:31 pm : link

Hixon. One of my favorites of all time. Played 9 positions. (All 3 WRs spots, both returns spots, and could block gunners or be a gunner on punt or kick.) Good run blocking WR. Could get deep & go short. Had YAC ability.

6'2, 4.4 speed, tough as nails, played thru injury, never complained. Never fumbled or muffed the ball. Just a solid football player who helped win games.

Devin Thomas

mac attack : 8/8/2018 1:37 pm : link

Literally made 2 outstanding special teams plays that put us in the Super Bowl

Like the Hixon call...

kinard : 8/8/2018 1:38 pm : link

Kawika Mitchell made a lot of good plays in the short time he was here.

Devin Thomas was also a very good special teamer.

RE: Like the Hixon call...

chopperhatch : 8/8/2018 1:46 pm : link

In comment 14032535 kinard said:

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Kawika Mitchell made a lot of good plays in the short time he was here.

Devin Thomas was also a very good special teamer.

Hixon was another player that I felt couldve gone down as an all time Giant. Fucking ACLs were too much.

Doug Reisenberg or

mfsd : 8/8/2018 2:05 pm : link

Karl Nelson at RT

Who do you think you are

fanofthejets : 8/8/2018 2:24 pm : link

Bjorn Nittmo?

Curtis McGriff

Russ in Queens, NYC : 8/8/2018 2:26 pm : link

Great run stuffing end on early downs. Came out for George Martin on obvious passing downs.

Whoops.

Russ in Queens, NYC : 8/8/2018 2:27 pm : link

Didn't read entire post. Change that to George Martin: we need a proven pass rusher.

Parcells� always had several key non starting role players ...

Spider56 : 8/8/2018 2:48 pm : link

Zeke Mowatt and Howard Cross were great 2nd TEs, but my vote goes to Phil Mcconkey ... Excellent slot receiver, Reliable Punt Returner, Fan loving towel waver and Patriotic USNA grad.

Kenny Phillips

GoDeep13 : 8/8/2018 3:01 pm : link

Wasn�t a flashy guy but you had very little to worry about with him playing midfield. He and Collins would have made a great tandem.

CC Brown on defense

Mike from SI : 8/8/2018 3:05 pm : link

and Ian Allen on offense. Championship! (Sorry couldn't help myself.)

RE: Kenny Phillips

chopperhatch : 8/8/2018 3:05 pm : link

In comment 14032636 GoDeep13 said:

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Wasn�t a flashy guy but you had very little to worry about with him playing midfield. He and Collins would have made a great tandem.

He was the STARTING free safety.

can you say that again?

Rocky369 : 8/8/2018 3:09 pm : link

we couldn't quite hear how right you are. Tyree is in fact the only role player, NON-PRO BOWLER that fits.

RE: can you say that again?

Sonic Youth : 8/8/2018 3:11 pm : link

In comment 14032654 Rocky369 said:

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we couldn't quite hear how right you are. Tyree is in fact the only role player, NON-PRO BOWLER that fits.

True, I forgot Hixon was a pro bowler as a KR at one point.
However, I'm pretty sure Tyree made the Pro Bowl as a special teamer one year as well. Either way, making the Pro Bowl as a special teamer sort of makes you inadvertently a role player, albeit one of the better ones in the league.

Tyree

Damon : 8/8/2018 3:15 pm : link

Meggett
Chase Blackburn

I'm not busting your chops SY

Rocky369 : 8/8/2018 3:18 pm : link

just chopper's for getting hung up on the role player/starter, while excluding the Pro Bowler criteria. Hixon fits both definitions. Tyree was a PBer. I was shocked to learn that KMac and Plaxico were never voted in. And Pierce only has one to his name.

RE: can you say that again?

chopperhatch : 8/8/2018 3:19 pm : link

In comment 14032654 Rocky369 said:

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we couldn't quite hear how right you are. Tyree is in fact the only role player, NON-PRO BOWLER that fits.

Apparently I needed to because the vast majority of "role players" on this thread were not just starters, but tenured ones.

I also dont think making the pro bowl precludes you from being on the list. It just means you were an outstanding role player.

Steve Tasker, Bill Bates, Larry Izzo, Ike Reese and our own Zak DeOssie were multiple pro bowl winners as well as role players.

RE: Reyna Thompson

Scott in Montreal : 8/8/2018 4:15 pm : link

In comment 14032423 Greg from LI said:

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Good depth CB, fantastic special teamer

This was the first guy I thought of when I saw the post. Just read that he did go to a pro bowl in 1990 though.

Kareem McKenzie would be my pick. Great lineman. Solid and would put this current line over the top.

Howard Cross 6'5" 270 excellent tough blocking TE

idiotsavant : 8/8/2018 4:22 pm : link

Kmac and Plex and snee were big names not roll players per SE.

Maybe Snee qualifies.

Here�s one at a position of need

plato : 8/8/2018 4:24 pm : link

Tom Landry

Give me

NJGiantFan84 : 8/8/2018 4:29 pm : link

Chase Blackburn any day. I loved watching that guy play. His passion for the game and hard-work turned him into an important piece. Certainly not the fastest or strongest, but just solid. Took great advantage of opportunities when given to him.

I also love Jake Ballard. If he never tore his ACL, I think he would have had a solid career here. He also was his best in the biggest moments.

RE: Howard Cross 6'5

Mad Mike : 8/8/2018 4:32 pm : link

In comment 14032717 idiotsavant said:

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Maybe Snee qualifies.

If Snee qualifies, who doesn't qualify?

Joe Morrison,

clatterbuck : 8/8/2018 6:48 pm : link

played where they needed him -- running back, fullback, wr, even te, I think.

Phillippi Sparks

mrvax : 8/8/2018 8:20 pm : link

Circa 1997. Man could we use him now.

Given what the OP probably wants ....

FStubbs : 8/8/2018 9:35 pm : link

Andy Headen. He'd be our best linebacker.

Devin Thomas , Deion Grant, but the real answer is

DennyInDenville : 8/8/2018 9:59 pm : link

Michael Boley

Lamar Miller

KyleY : 8/8/2018 10:06 pm : link

Over 1,200 yards each of the last 4 seasons. Even with Saquon, he'd be a nice addition.

...

christian : 8/8/2018 10:23 pm : link

Dave Tollefson

RE: Antonio Pierce

Tuckrule : 8/9/2018 5:45 am : link

In comment 14032445 BigBlueDownTheShore said:

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dude was solid as a MLB, and he was the smartest player on the field, and called perfect games from that position.

Pro bowl appearance

My list in order would be

Tuckrule : 8/9/2018 5:50 am : link

Kmac- solder and mac would be a nice duo

Kiwi- linebacker in a 3-4 finally finds his role

Kenny Phillips- perfect safety to pair with Landon can also play some corner

Phil McConkey

BlueinRoch : 8/9/2018 9:02 am : link

Great returner, great attitude.

RE: Devin Thomas , Deion Grant, but the real answer is

Sonic Youth : 8/9/2018 11:42 am : link

In comment 14033006 DennyInDenville said:

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Michael Boley

Mihael Boley would be great on this team, but I don't think he was a role player. he was pretty much an every down LB.

Add me to the McKenzie list. Somehow, I have a hard time

Ira : 8/9/2018 11:54 am : link

trusting Flowers.

Chase Blackburn

BlackburnBalledOut : 8/15/2018 8:09 am : link

i could also use a dave tollefson rotation piece on the DL or the blocking of Jake Ballard or Michael Mathews

ok here are my choices..

EricJ : 8/15/2018 8:19 am : link

and some of you have no idea what a role player is...

Larry Flowers
Andy Headen
McConkey
Meggett
Bradshaw - borderline role player

It's Meggett...

x meadowlander : 8/15/2018 1:15 pm : link

...3rd down backs were already common, but he redefined it - he was absolutely deadly in space, made the first man miss nearly every time. Also - was excellent at throwing the HB option. Parcells LOVED trickery.

Worth mentioning too is the way Justin Tuck was used when the Giants already had Pro Bowl bookends.

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