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| The September 2017 announcement of a federal investigation into fraud in college basketball recruiting made it clear the NCAA needed to make significant changes — and do so quickly. In response to the recommendations issued in April from the Commission on College Basketball, the NCAA's Board of Governors and Division I Board of Directors are implementing the following changes: BASKETBALL Provide student-athletes more freedom and flexibility to decide about going pro and pay for scholarships for those who want to finish their degree later. Minimize the leverage of harmful outside influences on high school recruits and college student-athletes. ENFORCEMENT Make the NCAA investigations and infractions process more efficient and binding. Set stronger penalties for schools and individuals who break the rules. OUTSIDE VOICES Bring in independent investigators and decision-makers to enforce rules. Add public voices to the NCAA Board of Governors for fresh perspectives. |
MotownGIANTS : 1:18 pm : link : reply
pay em ...
You are awfully quick to spend other peoples money.
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MotownGIANTS : 1:18 pm : link : reply
pay em ...
You are awfully quick to spend other peoples money.
College surely have the money to pay the players. They rip people off every year with student loans and the cost continues to increase year over year, because they can do it.
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MotownGIANTS : 1:18 pm : link : reply
pay em ...
You are awfully quick to spend other peoples money.
Those kids are earning that money ... they should be compensated accordingly.
And what does it accomplish? How does it change the potential for corruption?
No.
These kids should have the option to go directly to the pros if the pros want them. Making them go to college is wrong. But that's it. If you want to get paid, go pro. Otherwise take your scholarship, which at most schools now comes with a decent cost of living stipend anyway. It's not like the old days when an athlete couldn't afford to get a pizza.
All of these Utopian concepts of a free education for all and paying students to be athletes is naive and ill-conceived just from a fiscal management perspective alone.
It all costs and no one wants to raise taxes, or divert from other publically funded activities.
As an aside, not everyone should go to college. Vocational schools get the short rift in attention, funding and enrollment, yet these technical skills are still in great demand and offer very good salaries and career chances.
Absolutely nothing wrong with being a plumber, electrician, carpenter, computer / electronic repairer, mason, mechanic, and many other technician type skill sets.
College students are still students. Student - athletes. Philosophically opposed to paying them beyond those who are receiving scholarships and tuition assistance.
No free lunches - they don't exist. Someone always pays down the line. Usually the tax payer who wasn't involved in the original commitment that create the fiscal need to start with.
You want to help pay for college costs - do so with your own money.
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MotownGIANTS : 1:18 pm : link : reply
pay em ...
You are awfully quick to spend other peoples money.
Those kids are earning that money ... they should be compensated accordingly.
Just remember you have to factor in Title IX compliance.
And what does it accomplish? How does it change the potential for corruption?
No.
These kids should have the option to go directly to the pros if the pros want them. Making them go to college is wrong. But that's it. If you want to get paid, go pro. Otherwise take your scholarship, which at most schools now comes with a decent cost of living stipend anyway. It's not like the old days when an athlete couldn't afford to get a pizza.
Each level has a ceiling and floor as base salary per the recruits status 1-star ... 4-star etc ... which is consistent across the board per school level D1 .... D2 .. etc for the "lesser" sports the salaries are just not as much. Also give them a percentage on merchandise sold. Then ANY person and/or school caught in violation gets a HARSH penalty.
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All athletes? Just men's basketball and football? How much? Do they all get the same, whether you're at Alabama or William & Mary? Whether you're a starter or on the bench?
And what does it accomplish? How does it change the potential for corruption?
No.
These kids should have the option to go directly to the pros if the pros want them. Making them go to college is wrong. But that's it. If you want to get paid, go pro. Otherwise take your scholarship, which at most schools now comes with a decent cost of living stipend anyway. It's not like the old days when an athlete couldn't afford to get a pizza.
Each level has a ceiling and floor as base salary per the recruits status 1-star ... 4-star etc ... which is consistent across the board per school level D1 .... D2 .. etc for the "lesser" sports the salaries are just not as much. Also give them a percentage on merchandise sold. Then ANY person and/or school caught in violation gets a HARSH penalty.
How do you determine recruit status for a woman's crew or fencing recruit?
You realize that outside of the elite sports schools, parents of every non-athlete are already subsidizing the athletes by paying for their scholarships with higher tuition?
The last study showed only 20 schools were profitable with college football. All the others (BCS, FBS, DII, etc) lost money. But some want to pay them all. smh.
Some states have, or have in proposed legislation, equal pay statutes. So are we going to pay a woman fencer the same as a football player? And the Title IX question remains unanswered, and would come into play in this regard as well.
But the rub of it is that while there is certainly a case to be made for paying participants in elite programs, the money to do that on a large scale just isn't there. A more reasonable approach would be to limit eligibility dings for minor infractions and to relax transfer rules to make things more player-centric instead of focused on the chimerical goal of ensuring the purity of amateur athletics.
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....you really think ONLY the major sports rank perspective recruits. How a school/team (scouts) rank them and spend their allotted "cap" is on that institution.
Some states have, or have in proposed legislation, equal pay statutes. So are we going to pay a woman fencer the same as a football player? And the Title IX question remains unanswered, and would come into play in this regard as well.
Women's fencing is NOT the same as Men's football so why would the pay be the same? Does a CEO and copywriter make the same amount?
"Lower" tier sports are already funded by "higher" tier sports so what would be the difference?
As for "Title IX" .... it is really not a NCAA issue it is a court & legal system issue ... looking the other way and old boys network. Address the culture here in America that certain people rights, freedoms and injustice crimes against them are irrelevant.
And what does it accomplish?
Well, it abolishes that whole unpaid labor deal.
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....you really think ONLY the major sports rank perspective recruits. How a school/team (scouts) rank them and spend their allotted "cap" is on that institution.
Some states have, or have in proposed legislation, equal pay statutes. So are we going to pay a woman fencer the same as a football player? And the Title IX question remains unanswered, and would come into play in this regard as well.
Women's fencing is NOT the same as Men's football so why would the pay be the same? Does a CEO and copywriter make the same amount?
"Lower" tier sports are already funded by "higher" tier sports so what would be the difference?
As for "Title IX" .... it is really not a NCAA issue it is a court & legal system issue ... looking the other way and old boys network. Address the culture here in America that certain people rights, freedoms and injustice crimes against them are irrelevant.
Title IX is not an NCAA issue?
I give up.
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In comment 14032564 MotownGIANTS said:
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....you really think ONLY the major sports rank perspective recruits. How a school/team (scouts) rank them and spend their allotted "cap" is on that institution.
Some states have, or have in proposed legislation, equal pay statutes. So are we going to pay a woman fencer the same as a football player? And the Title IX question remains unanswered, and would come into play in this regard as well.
Women's fencing is NOT the same as Men's football so why would the pay be the same? Does a CEO and copywriter make the same amount?
"Lower" tier sports are already funded by "higher" tier sports so what would be the difference?
As for "Title IX" .... it is really not a NCAA issue it is a court & legal system issue ... looking the other way and old boys network. Address the culture here in America that certain people rights, freedoms and injustice crimes against them are irrelevant.
Title IX is not an NCAA issue?
I give up.
Schools could not get away with that BS if the courts did not allow them to get away with it .... Start locking up the admins that are being accessories to the crimes as well as the main perp and see how quickly "ish" changes.
He does not have a point because as I said the monies are already shared so continue to share the monies. Girl's fencing is not getting the same money as the football team nor is it getting the same money as girl's basketball for that matter.
I agree with motown, let them go directly to pro ball if they want. Otherwise, let them "settle" for upwards of $250,000 in tuition, room and board. The only thing I would allow extra for that the NCAA doesn't is meals. Some of these guys are really restricted in their meal plans as to how much they can eat. They should be allowed to eat whenever and however much they want. Their scholarship should fully cover any and all meals.
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