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NFT: New York Yankees @ Chicago White Sox - 8:10 - Game 3

arcarsenal : 8/8/2018 6:27 pm
NYY:

1. Brett Gardner (L) LF
2. Giancarlo Stanton (R) DH
3. Aaron Hicks (S) CF
4. Greg Bird (L) 1B
5. Gleyber Torres (R) SS
6. Miguel Andujar (R) 3B
7. Neil Walker (S) 2B
8. Austin Romine (R) C
9. Shane Robinson (R) RF

Luis Severino: 14-5, 3.08


CHW:

1. Yoan Moncada (S) 2B
2. Yolmer Sanchez (S) 3B
3. Jose Abreu (R) 1B
4. Daniel Palka (L) DH
5. Avisail Garcia (R) RF
6. Nicky Delmonico (L) LF
7. Tim Anderson (R) SS
8. Kevan Smith (R) C
9. Adam Engel (R) CF

Lucas Giolito: 7-8, 5.97


Giolito leads the entire AL in runs allowed, so there's no excuse not to put runs on the board. The big story tonight will be whether or not Sevy can get back on track. We'll find out if he's been tipping his pitches or if it's another issue.

Kind of wish Boone would tinker with the lineup a little less, but it is what it is. Not the end of the world.

Bring out the brooms because we need this sweep.
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Keep the arc thread streak alive!  
adamg : 8/8/2018 6:31 pm : link
Let's go. Sweep time!
Get your brooms out  
DC Gmen Fan : 8/8/2018 7:49 pm : link
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I agree  
chopperhatch : 8/8/2018 7:58 pm : link
About the lineups...what is the deal? Flies against all conventional wisdom regarding allowing guys to bat comfortably.
Perfect game for Sevy to break the streak  
UConn4523 : 8/8/2018 8:02 pm : link
he needs confidence in the worst way right now.
RE: I agree  
Eman11 : 8/8/2018 8:08 pm : link
In comment 14032871 chopperhatch said:
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About the lineups...what is the deal? Flies against all conventional wisdom regarding allowing guys to bat comfortably.


Count me in this group as well. I don't get it at all.

I can see dropping a slumping guy or moving a real hot hitter up in his place, but to just shuffle guys around for no obvious reason, makes no sense to me.

It shouldn't take this long into the season for Boone to figure out where guys belong in the lineup. That's what spring training is for, and maybe a week or two to start the season but to still be doing this in August is puzzling to say the least.
Damn, didn't see a thread  
section125 : 8/8/2018 8:25 pm : link
so started one, then didn't see my own thread. Guess I hit the football only switch on the drop down...

I guess Boone is just making people feel comfortable in any spot in the batting order.
Bird  
Mike Graves : 8/8/2018 8:26 pm : link
Is 1-20 on this road trip why on earth is he batting clean up?
Severino still struggling  
The_Boss : 8/8/2018 8:28 pm : link
Over a month now
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arcarsenal : 8/8/2018 8:28 pm : link
Well, this isn't a good early sign on Severino.

8+ ERA over the last few weeks. Not good.
RE: Bird  
The_Boss : 8/8/2018 8:29 pm : link
In comment 14032904 Mike Graves said:
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Is 1-20 on this road trip why on earth is he batting clean up?


If true, the one hit was a bunt vs the shift no?
Yeah, glad Severino  
section125 : 8/8/2018 8:30 pm : link
has started well again.
Geez  
BleedBlue : 8/8/2018 8:30 pm : link
The one constant this year I thought would be sevy, maybe I was hoping lol.
He is really struggling lately
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The_Boss : 8/8/2018 8:30 pm : link
In comment 14032911 arcarsenal said:
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Well, this isn't a good early sign on Severino.

8+ ERA over the last few weeks. Not good.


More of the same:
Hanging sliders and diminished velocity four seamers.
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arcarsenal : 8/8/2018 8:32 pm : link
Seems like he's topping out @ 96 - which is definitely a few ticks lower than what we're used to. I hope he's not hurt. His stuff just isn't biting the same way it was before.
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BleedBlue : 8/8/2018 8:33 pm : link
That was a pretty nice pitch haha


Hope he settles in now
Excellent.  
chopperhatch : 8/8/2018 8:34 pm : link
This is the exact, same, team that went into Boston. Only exception was CC's performance last night.
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chopperhatch : 8/8/2018 8:35 pm : link
In comment 14032921 BleedBlue said:
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That was a pretty nice pitch haha


Hope he settles in now


Yea, good luck with that.
RE: .  
section125 : 8/8/2018 8:35 pm : link
In comment 14032918 arcarsenal said:
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Seems like he's topping out @ 96 - which is definitely a few ticks lower than what we're used to. I hope he's not hurt. His stuff just isn't biting the same way it was before.


96 or 98 makes no difference if location is bad. His velocity will increase once he is comfortable and into the game.
RE: RE: Bird  
LarmerTJR : 8/8/2018 8:36 pm : link
Yesterday I asked if maybe this is what Bird is and we need to move on.

I was told he was in a hot streak and one of our better hitters lately, and that my thinking was wrong.


In comment 14032913 The_Boss said:
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In comment 14032904 Mike Graves said:


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Is 1-20 on this road trip why on earth is he batting clean up?



If true, the one hit was a bunt vs the shift no?
RE: Excellent.  
section125 : 8/8/2018 8:37 pm : link
In comment 14032923 chopperhatch said:
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This is the exact, same, team that went into Boston. Only exception was CC's performance last night.


Well that and they actually won 2 games....
RE: RE: Excellent.  
chopperhatch : 8/8/2018 8:39 pm : link
In comment 14032929 section125 said:
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In comment 14032923 chopperhatch said:


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This is the exact, same, team that went into Boston. Only exception was CC's performance last night.



Well that and they actually won 2 games....


..........I said going INTO Boston. We won 2 games (one, barely) against one of the very worst teams in the league.

Even Severino's outs are smoked.
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arcarsenal : 8/8/2018 8:40 pm : link
In comment 14032926 section125 said:
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In comment 14032918 arcarsenal said:


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Seems like he's topping out @ 96 - which is definitely a few ticks lower than what we're used to. I hope he's not hurt. His stuff just isn't biting the same way it was before.



96 or 98 makes no difference if location is bad. His velocity will increase once he is comfortable and into the game.


Location obviously matters more, but whenever a pitcher has diminished velo it raises an eyebrow. This is the same guy who has thrown more 99+ mph pitches than anyone in this league by leaps and bounds - so, seeing him sit at 96 and get hit like this just makes me wonder if he's fatigued or not 100% healthy.

Whether Sevy struggles or not, there's no reason for us not to put runs on the board against Giolito. He's been horrendous. Compromised lineup or not, we should be lighting this guy up.
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arcarsenal : 8/8/2018 8:41 pm : link
I have to give Neil Walker some credit - I was killing this guy and wanted him DFA'd a month ago. He's been very good these last few weeks when he's been getting regular PT.
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arcarsenal : 8/8/2018 8:44 pm : link
Romine has hit very well with RISP this year. Can't wait for Sanchez to get back - but he has at least been effective there.
Sugar Shane ties it!  
bceagle05 : 8/8/2018 8:47 pm : link
Keep the line moving.
Nicky Delmonico sounds like a Sopranos bit character  
Greg from LI : 8/8/2018 8:47 pm : link
Sugar Shane comes through. How bout that.
Tied up!  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/8/2018 8:48 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 8/8/2018 8:48 pm : link
Shane Robinson looks like Gardy after getting shot with a shrink ray.
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arcarsenal : 8/8/2018 8:49 pm : link
Giolito totally falling apart here and their pen is taxed from last night. We should really be able to put up some crooked numbers here.
If ever there were a time for a Stanton moonshot  
Greg from LI : 8/8/2018 8:50 pm : link
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RE: If ever there were a time for a Stanton moonshot  
arcarsenal : 8/8/2018 8:52 pm : link
In comment 14032941 Greg from LI said:
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Nice call, my friend!
Could feel that coming  
dune69 : 8/8/2018 8:53 pm : link
Stanton is locked in.
That felt gooooooooooood  
Greg from LI : 8/8/2018 8:53 pm : link
Pour it on. They haven't had a total blowout in a while.
STANTON!  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/8/2018 8:54 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 8/8/2018 8:54 pm : link
Stanton has been absolutely fantastic since mid-May.
And now I feel like a schmuck.  
chopperhatch : 8/8/2018 8:54 pm : link
Lol, just need Sevvy to get his shit together.
A few months ago  
JoshB : 8/8/2018 8:55 pm : link
Stanton was extremely frustrating to watch, awful at bats, now it’s awesome to watch
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section125 : 8/8/2018 8:58 pm : link
In comment 14032931 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 14032926 section125 said:


Location obviously matters more, but whenever a pitcher has diminished velo it raises an eyebrow. This is the same guy who has thrown more 99+ mph pitches than anyone in this league by leaps and bounds - so, seeing him sit at 96 and get hit like this just makes me wonder if he's fatigued or not 100% healthy.



He does not throw 99 all the time. He avgs 97.6 or so. I saw a couple 98s in the 1st.
It is location and a cement mixer slider that have been most of the problem along with some pitch tipping.
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eric2425ny : 8/8/2018 9:01 pm : link
In comment 14032934 arcarsenal said:
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Romine has hit very well with RISP this year. Can't wait for Sanchez to get back - but he has at least been effective there.


No offense Arc, but Sanchez scares me this year. I can imagine him giving up runs due to his inability to contain pitches in key playoff moments. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt on the injury while he blows bubbles on his jog to first, but he needs to be better defensively.
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arcarsenal : 8/8/2018 9:04 pm : link
In comment 14032958 eric2425ny said:
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In comment 14032934 arcarsenal said:


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Romine has hit very well with RISP this year. Can't wait for Sanchez to get back - but he has at least been effective there.



No offense Arc, but Sanchez scares me this year. I can imagine him giving up runs due to his inability to contain pitches in key playoff moments. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt on the injury while he blows bubbles on his jog to first, but he needs to be better defensively.


He's not good defensively but his bat is a lot more of a threat than Romine or Higgy's. I think people are too down on him right now, This guy carried this entire offense when he came up in 2016 - he was very good last year, and is clearly the most talented C on the roster (and one of the most talented in the entire sport)

He will get it together and this lineup will be better when he's back in it.
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shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/8/2018 9:05 pm : link
In comment 14032958 eric2425ny said:
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No offense Arc, but Sanchez scares me this year. I can imagine him giving up runs due to his inability to contain pitches in key playoff moments. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt on the injury while he blows bubbles on his jog to first, but he needs to be better defensively.


Severino and Sabathia both have worse ERAs this season with Romine behind the plate... in the case of Sabathia, it's significantly worse. Nothing about Romine's defense made me feel better this past weekend in Fenway. I think that's overrated.
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arcarsenal : 8/8/2018 9:05 pm : link
In comment 14032953 section125 said:
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In comment 14032926 section125 said:


Location obviously matters more, but whenever a pitcher has diminished velo it raises an eyebrow. This is the same guy who has thrown more 99+ mph pitches than anyone in this league by leaps and bounds - so, seeing him sit at 96 and get hit like this just makes me wonder if he's fatigued or not 100% healthy.





He does not throw 99 all the time. He avgs 97.6 or so. I saw a couple 98s in the 1st.
It is location and a cement mixer slider that have been most of the problem along with some pitch tipping.


Not saying he does - just seems like there's a little less giddyup than usual and his stuff hasn't had the same bite.

9 pitch 2nd inning was just what the doctor ordered, though. Hopefully he can get on a bit of a roll here now that he's got a 4 run lead and can attack.
I like Romine as a backup.  
section125 : 8/8/2018 9:11 pm : link
But anyone who does not Sanchez back is sort of nuts...
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chopperhatch : 8/8/2018 9:14 pm : link
In comment 14032962 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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In comment 14032958 eric2425ny said:


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No offense Arc, but Sanchez scares me this year. I can imagine him giving up runs due to his inability to contain pitches in key playoff moments. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt on the injury while he blows bubbles on his jog to first, but he needs to be better defensively.



Severino and Sabathia both have worse ERAs this season with Romine behind the plate... in the case of Sabathia, it's significantly worse. Nothing about Romine's defense made me feel better this past weekend in Fenway. I think that's overrated.


Its a weird and bad fucking dilemma we have at C. The mobility issue behind the plate is confounding to me and one that can be taught. I also think he could use dropping some weight too. If not only for mobility the strain on his legs would be lessened. 230 is a BIG catcher unless you are Jose Molina. But he never let balls by him.
RE: I like Romine as a backup.  
Eman11 : 8/8/2018 9:15 pm : link
In comment 14032965 section125 said:
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But anyone who does not Sanchez back is sort of nuts...


Yup. The sooner he gets back the better too. I want him getting as much time as he can get to get his bat going and be smokin by October.

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shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/8/2018 9:22 pm : link
In comment 14032966 chopperhatch said:
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Its a weird and bad fucking dilemma we have at C. The mobility issue behind the plate is confounding to me and one that can be taught. I also think he could use dropping some weight too. If not only for mobility the strain on his legs would be lessened. 230 is a BIG catcher unless you are Jose Molina. But he never let balls by him.


I think Boone let it be known that he wasn't happy with Gary's weight this season. That's not an issue that will get solved before Spring. I just don't think the individual performance of our best pitchers suffers at all with Gary back there. (Just like Pettitte and Sabathia were still great in the playoffs with Posada catching, but Burnett needed Molina.) Tanaka was GREAT last postseason with Gary catching him. Plus, Cleveland and Boston just ran wild on us recently with Romine back there. The pitchers are certainly responsible for part of that, but I think teams do respect Gary's arm more.

I think it's important that the Yanks get Gary back when he's completely healthy and in a proper frame of mind as opposed to getting him back ASAP.
Sanchez has one big weakness as a catcher  
Greg from LI : 8/8/2018 9:24 pm : link
He doesn't block balls in the dirt well. He has a laser arm, frames pretty well, and calls a good game.
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arcarsenal : 8/8/2018 9:26 pm : link
Now that slider is starting to bite again. Nice pitch.
RE: Sanchez has one big weakness as a catcher  
chopperhatch : 8/8/2018 9:27 pm : link
In comment 14032977 Greg from LI said:
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He doesn't block balls in the dirt well. He has a laser arm, frames pretty well, and calls a good game.


I dont disagree. But that weakness has cost us multiple runs in singular games multiple times and Im pretty sure cost us 1 or 2 actual victories last year. That part is inexcusable to me.
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arcarsenal : 8/8/2018 9:32 pm : link
Have I ever mentioned that I love Aaron Hicks?

Boom!
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